Italy

[toofast]

I live in Italy and I wish to have a suggestion about which RD I should buy
in order to have best protection in my country.
On the paper things are easy and RX65 or V1 should work well, but in practice...
Is anyone that tested on italian roads the RDs so kind to tell me his experience?
I'm testing an RMR KAT DLS 315. Works, but the performance seems poor and it beeps a lot....
For the moment inhighway I got only radar alarm, none laser.
I can't understand who is KAT, why there is not an internet site.
Only Rocky Mountain has it, but the RD is claimed to be modified for Erurope. Is it true?
Anyway, I would like a better equipment. When I drive in sunny in a cabrio, I can't see the leds and hear the beeps, the colume is too low.
Any suggestions?

Thank you for the help :wink:

[aust3333]

Stay away from RMR. That unit is junk. The V1, RX65, Escort 85500 X50, Bel STI should all serve you well. Do more reading and make a decision from there. All of these are great units.

[MetalFlame]

Stay away from RMR. That unit is junk. The V1, RX65, Escort 85500 X50, Bel STI should all serve you well. Do more reading and make a decision from there. All of these are great units.

8500X50;STi and RX-65 doesn't have Ka narrow mode.Ka-superwide is useless in Italy.....
RDs for Italy are:Bel-966,Bel-975,Bel-550,V1......b/c they all have Ka narrow

[toofast]

Stay away from RMR. That unit is junk. The V1, RX65, Escort 85500 X50, Bel STI should all serve you well. Do more reading and make a decision from there. All of these are great units.

8500X50;STi and RX-65 doesn't have Ka narrow mode.Ka-superwide is useless in Italy.....
RDs for Italy are:Bel-966,Bel-975,Bel-550,V1......b/c they all have Ka narrow

Thanks for the replys.
I checked on Bel site and 966-975-550 are out of production....
The only one remaining is V1, but Valentine says : sorry no idea of frequencies used in Italy.... and they don't sell out of US.
The only possibility is to pay the RD much more through some internet selling companies.
I don't know what is narrow Ka band. I though it was Ka and Ka wide only.
Second question : target automotive says that the units distribuited from tham have the radar receiving electronic modified for europe. It's true?

[Harold]

Target Automotive is a Dutch/European distributor of Bel equipment.

The Bel 966 Evo is a K and Ka narrow band detector.

[ELVATO]

Anything will be better than an RMR

Detectors, when scanning for Ka, normally sweep the entire Ka frequency, 33.4-36 GHz. When a detector is said to be tuned for Europe, the detector will usually only scan around the 34.3 GHz (+/- 100 Mhz?) , the frequency of the photoradar that uses that frequency. The same goes for the K band radars.

The V1 has a Euro mode which scans those frequencies. Also, you could see if you can get some of the Bel detectors that others have mentioned here.

[ragamix]

toofast - MetalFrame is right you definitely need a detector with European Ka narrow.. right now there are not too many options.

based on this http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=2130 X band is also used in Italy. If this is true and X band is a real threat you might need to wait a while for Target550 replacement (may or may not detect X band.. don’t know). V1 would be an option too but.. but in EUR mode it only detects (depending on settings) Ka narrow, K and Ku band but not X band (even if you turn setting "1" i.e. X band on - this setting is ignored!)

so as you can see it doesn’t look too good right now. once again - I have no idea is X is a real tread and if it's used at all where you drive. if this is true than given the current possibilities you might try the STi (works somewhat satisfactory agains Ka 34.3 out of the non-european Ka narrow detectors ) and mount it verticaly (I suppose Ka narrow in Italy = Multanova 6f). if X band is nothing to worry about - get the latest V1. if you can wait - wait for the Target550 replacement. should be coming out soon but we have been hearing about it for a while now..

[ragamix]

Detectors, when scanning for Ka, normally sweep the entire Ka frequency, 33.4-36 GHz. When a detector is said to be tuned for Europe, the detector will usually only scan around the 34.3 GHz (+/- 100 Mhz?) , the frequency of the photoradar that uses that frequency. The same goes for the K band radars.

Actually Ka narrow = 34.0GHz + 34.3GHz [+/- 80MHz; some claim 100MHz(?)]. some detectors only scan the 34.3GHz range

K band frequencies are normally not modified as far as I know or at least there is no need for that

[ELVATO]

Detectors, when scanning for Ka, normally sweep the entire Ka frequency, 33.4-36 GHz. When a detector is said to be tuned for Europe, the detector will usually only scan around the 34.3 GHz (+/- 100 Mhz?) , the frequency of the photoradar that uses that frequency. The same goes for the K band radars.

Actually Ka narrow = 34.0GHz + 34.3GHz [+/- 80MHz; some claim 100MHz(?)]. some detectors only scan the 34.3GHz range

K band frequencies are normally not modified as far as I know or at least there is no need for that

Thanks for the correction BTW, which one is the Ka photoradar, the Multanova C?

[MetalFlame]

toofast - MetalFrame is right you definitely need a detector with European Ka narrow.. right now there are not too many options.

based on this http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=2130 X band is also used in Italy. If this is true and X band is a real threat you might need to wait a while for Target550 replacement (may or may not detect X band.. don’t know). V1 would be an option too but.. but in EUR mode it only detects (depending on settings) Ka narrow, K and Ku band but not X band (even if you turn setting "1" i.e. X band on - this setting is ignored!)

I am often in Italy....since I live 20km away from Italy border...and I NEVER saw X-band......unless they have X-9.9Ghz or X-9.410Ghz,but I doubt this is the case!For protection in Italy you need:GPS with good radar/speedcam/induction loops.. database(SCDB is awesome) and RD with K-band+Ka NARROW