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    Default Escort Inc. vs Cobra Electronics

    Today while snooping around the legal websites I found a recent law suit filed by Escort Inc. against Cobra Electronics.

    http://www.radarroy.com/archives/173

    I would be interested in hearing forum users feedback both here on the forum and on the blog about Escort's filing and some of my comments.

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    You know, I kinda figured this would happen.
    Not sure who the infringer is but I'd put my
    Vote on Cobra stealing from Escort.

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    Default Re: Escort Inc. vs Cobra Electronics

    Quote Originally Posted by radarroy
    Today while snooping around the legal websites I found a recent law suit filed by Escort Inc. against Cobra Electronics.

    http://www.radarroy.com/archives/173

    I would be interested in hearing forum users feedback both here on the forum and on the blog about Escort's filing and some of my comments.

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    I hope Escort crushes them! I have seen many patents and Escorts 9500I patent covered all bases and was very broad, but detailed on the things that count.
    I found no such patent for Cobra under "Electronic Signal Detector with Mute Feature" Cobra is doing 120mph in a 55 zone without a radar detector.

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    LOL, I found it. Total joke of a patent. My kids could have made it. And it doesn’t say anything about GPS. :shock:

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...9&RS=6,078,279

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    Seems like a joke of a patent to me by Cobra. I too saw no mention of GPS within the patent. I believe Cobra filed this counter suit just to say that they are fighting back. From the looks of the two patents, Cobra does not have a leg to stand on.

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    Hope this puts Cobra out of business. :twisted:

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    Be careful not to compare the two patents. The question is NOT whether one patent is more detailed or has broader claims than the other. The real questions include: A) Do ANY of Escort's (or Bel's?) products infringe the claims of the Cobra patent; and B) Do ANY of Cobra's products infringe the claims of the Escort patent. It's arguable in both cases, but I would hazard a guess that they are each infringing each other's patents. Normally, businesses in this situation form an agreement not to sue each other. Here, for whatever reasons, they may actually take it to court. Would Escort like to put Cobra out of business? Perhaps. Should we also want Cobra out of business, if only so we could have fewer false alerts caused by their leaky products? I would argue that we should NOT, as more competition is always better for the consumer in the long run.

    The next question is whether the patents are overly broad based on the prior art (that is, did the patent office really consider the most pertinent prior art, and if so, did each patent examiner do a good and thorough job with it). Considering the huge siphoning of patent office fees by the Bush administration for unrelated purposes, it's quite possible that the examiners weren't given enough resources or support to do the best job. Can other prior art be found that would tend to invalidate either or both patents? I don't know the answers there, but I'm sure that both Escort and Cobra have ideas about it (otherwise I'd think that they would have already found some way to settle out of court, or they still might).

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    Quote Originally Posted by o2bad455
    Be careful not to compare the two patents. The question is NOT whether one patent is more detailed or has broader claims than the other. The real questions include: A) Do ANY of Escort's (or Bel's?) products infringe the claims of the Cobra patent; and B) Do ANY of Cobra's products infringe the claims of the Escort patent. It's arguable in both cases, but I would hazard a guess that they are each infringing each other's patents. Normally, businesses in this situation form an agreement not to sue each other. Here, for whatever reasons, they may actually take it to court. Would Escort like to put Cobra out of business? Perhaps. Should we also want Cobra out of business, if only so we could have fewer false alerts caused by their leaky products? I would argue that we should NOT, as more competition is always better for the consumer in the long run.

    The next question is whether the patents are overly broad based on the prior art (that is, did the patent office really consider the most pertinent prior art, and if so, did each patent examiner do a good and thorough job with it). Considering the huge siphoning of patent office fees by the Bush administration for unrelated purposes, it's quite possible that the examiners weren't given enough resources or support to do the best job. Can other prior art be found that would tend to invalidate either or both patents? I don't know the answers there, but I'm sure that both Escort and Cobra have ideas about it (otherwise I'd think that they would have already found some way to settle out of court, or they still might).
    Word, if Cobra goes out of business, a lot of potential cobra buyers would turn RMR, and I'd rather put up with a couple of falses, then have money put in RMR's pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky225

    Word, if Cobra goes out of business, a lot of potential cobra buyers would turn RMR, and I'd rather put up with a couple of falses, then have money put in RMR's pockets.
    Hell, just buy a cheap K band antenna and if you get a Cobra or Uniden user (which are WORSE than many Cobras, particularly since the newest ones are now 5 years old and have probably fallen out of tune) that won't go away, flip that sucker on a few times. Since most of them obviously have little idea on how a RD really works in the first place, they'll usually back off in a hurry. Saved me some headaches more than a few times when I owned a detector!

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    I wish other companies that claim patent infringement would take it to court so we do not have to hear the *****ing and suffer by not being able to post what we want. Personally I would invest that money into creating the best possible product that money can buy because let me tell you from the little that I know about patent infringements they are COSTLY to prove in court for both parties. Just think that money could have been used to give us a more sensitive RD. ALl in all though I am glad that Cobra is involved so maybe they will go bankrupt and quit polluting the RD industry
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