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    Default X50/V1 - low or high on pickup?

    I have a Ford Ranger (pickup truck). I still am deciding whether to get the X50 or V1. We won't talk about that this thread. ;-) but what would be the best for:

    X50
    radar
    laser
    (low or high?)

    V1
    radar
    laser
    (low or high?)

    Thanks.

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    First, it is a good idea to follow manufacturer's recommendations:

    Passport x50 and BEL RX-65:
    "Using the Windshield Mount, mount your Passport level, and high enough on your front windshield to provide a clear view of the road from the front and rear."

    Valentine One:
    "Valentine One works best when mounted high in the windshield, and toward the center between the windshield pillars. Use your choice of windshield or visor mounts"

    However, here's the different points of view on this:


    High mounting

    -Good for Radar: higher mounting gives you more "line-of-sight" with the targeting radar. If you do the math, one foot higher mounting gives you an few tenths of a mile extra, maybe even more than 1/2 mile. Tthe average driver isn't likely to notice such a small difference in range, but it might help out in a pinch (detecting brief instant-on at long range)

    -Good for laser targeting vehicles ahead, since it can "see" through their windows better etc...

    -Bad for laser targeting you, since it is mounted further from the aiming point (front plate).



    Low mounting

    -Not as good for radar, but you might not be giving up too much.

    -Good for Laser Targeting you: closer to the aiming points(front plate/lights). More likely to give a laser warning when you are targeted, and you'll have time to slow down if they don't get a reading on the first shot, if you have a dark vehicle, are using VEIL, etc.

    -Not as good for laser targeting vehicles ahead, since it can't see through their windows as well



    In my humble opinion, as far as mounting and performance goes:
    -If you don't have a Blinder, and have a dark car/VEIL, then mount low, you'll have a good chance of geting a warning when you're being hit and can slow down before he gets a reading.
    -If you have a Blinder then you covered for laser pretty well. You might as well mount the detector high to maximize radar range.
    -If you have a light-colored car that can be easily targeted by laser, no blinder or VEIL, then mount high, and you might have a better chance of getting lucky with a prior warning when a vehicle ahead is targeted.

    Something else to keep in mind: if you mount TOO low then you could obscure the rear radar or laser sensor on your detector.

    Many tests have shown that the V1 is very superior in laser detection, so it doesn't matter as much with the V1: no matter where you mount it it should detect laser very well.

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    Thanks for the information. Is that the same as car and pickup?

    I noticed in a car, with it slightly above the dash, I'd get less of a radar warning as opposed to having it high on my pickup truck. I'm more concerned with laser these days... radar is for the local boys who like shooting at trees so my detector goes off a mile ahead... 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by computersoc
    Thanks for the information. Is that the same as car and pickup?

    I noticed in a car, with it slightly above the dash, I'd get less of a radar warning as opposed to having it high on my pickup truck. I'm more concerned with laser these days... radar is for the local boys who like shooting at trees so my detector goes off a mile ahead... 8)
    In my opinion it is pretty much the same for a truck or car.
    If you are concerned about laser, a laser jammer is your best bet. But if you don't want a jammer, then I would recommend a V1 and VEIL: that combo should give you decent protection if they shoot you at more than 500-600 feet or so (depending on the vehicle). For detecting laser, even direct hits, other detectors fall short, see the '05 SML Results.

    Jim

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    I hear the V1 laser falses a lot though. Might get annoying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by computersoc
    I hear the V1 laser falses a lot though. Might get annoying?
    :roll: Haven't experienced that. Had one incident with police strobes, but I wouldn't call that a lot.

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    I wouldn't say "a lot", though it falses more than other brands. It all depends on what you encounter in your daily driving. If you live in a rich area where everyone drives Infiniti SUVs with laser cruise controls, or encounter a lot of emergency vehicles with strobes on, then the V1 will drive you crazy.

    In my experience, the most common sources of laser falses on the V1 are: the aforementioned Infiniti SUVs, Envoy/Trailblazer neon brakelights (if you're directly behind one, esp. at night), emergency vehicle strobes (my V1 seems to prefer ambulances), and the EZ Pass equipped toll booths around where I live.
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    My suggestion is try both if that's what you narrowed your choices down to. I have tried swapping places with the V1 high and X50 positioned lower and vice versa. Interestingly, i have not found a solid fact that the one position is better than the nother. Case and point. Some times the V1 picks the signal first and the X50 picks the signal first and vice versa. Ideal position is suppose to be up high with less obstruction but a lot of factors has to be considered in real world scenario's.

    I strongly suggest that you get both and try it for a couple days in different mounting positions.Most of us would like to follow what others are saying but it is good to know if you test it yourself and prove it for your self.

    If laser is your concern, go with the V1. It falses more than the other top 2 RD's though but not much compared to the cheap ones and it will save you a ticket someday. Best bet is to add a laser jammer in your arsenal. Radar detector alone can not save you from laser.

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    X50 -low
    V1 - high best laser detection ever.

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    I have had a very few false laser encounters with my X50. Here is what they are.

    1) Police Strobes
    2) Flordia Turnpike - The Red Light shinning behind you as you come through the toll booth
    3) When I have honked my horn (Ford Ranger)
    4) When I had the truck turned off, my truck parked behind another vehilce and while I pressed the Keyless Car Lock, it flashed the lights into the Rear Car Reflectors infront of it and it set off the laser.

 

 

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