Who's the best for regular city/highway driving?

[djrams80]

djrams80 I live in Vegas and am wondering if you know if laser jammers are ilegal here as well as?

I believe there are no laws prohibiting laser jammers in Nevada:
USA Laser Jammer Laws - Guys of LIDAR

[eluder98]

perhaps a 8500 x50 for that price range,

i always suggest one of the top dogs, it would cost 400-450-500 respectivly for the v1-9500i-sti

v1-9500i-sti.....? what is this? who is this? can't find any info when I googled it. Remember i'm new to all this so I will need the brand name and the model also. i was able to find the 8500 x50. found one in ebay for $150 but it's a "Refurbished item." what do you guys think this? are RD still reliable if it's been refurbished?

[Kayrac]

i meant the valetine 1, is 400....the 9500i, is 450..........and the sti, is 500........ thats what i meant by respectivly

a ebay'd escort won't be under any warrenty most probably

[eluder98]

I do go to Stockton sometimes, since UOP is one of my customers....

wow, you have got to be doing it BIG if you have UOP as your customer.

Well, the lowest you should go is a Whistler Pro78, a Whistler XTR-690.

what are your thoughts about the x50? bcus so far i have heard nothing bad about it from 3 different sources now, so i wouldn't mind saving up for it.

Your budget does not allow you a laser jammer.

I figured....but i'm not sure if it is being used locally anyway. any other way i can find out besides searching for Waldo from Stockton...?

[eluder98]

i meant the valetine 1, is 400....the 9500i, is 450..........and the sti, is 500........ thats what i meant by respectivly

a ebay'd escort won't be under any warrenty most probably

ok i see what you mean...but what is the sti for $500?



i will check for replieslater on....i g2g for now.

[djrams80]

what are your thoughts about the x50? bcus so far i have heard nothing bad about it from 3 different sources now, so i wouldn't mind saving up for it.

The 8500 X50 is definitely better than the 3 RDs I mentioned. If you can swing it, then do it. The V1 and 9500i are also much nicer that the X50, but are $400 and $450. The STi RDD(radar detector detector) immunity is not needed in Cali. The 9500i and V1 are both better choices for you. You get what you pay for, for the most part.

I figured....but i'm not sure if it is being used locally anyway. any other way i can find out besides searching for Waldo from Stockton...?

There are plenty of NoCalers on here. More than likely they'll chime in with some info. I've definitely seen laser used on the freeway up there though, be on the lookout for them laser totin' CHPs.

[Kayrac]

ok i see what you mean...but what is the sti for $500?



i will check for replieslater on....i g2g for now.

the sti is stealth(radar detector detectors can't pick it up), for areas where RD's are illegal, if there legal in your area, i suggest ignorning it unless you have some reason to believe they are using spectre's to target RD users

there has been some talk of that in texas

[Doc What, son?]

I agree with others: get a top RD, or close to tops. There are some great performers that don't cost quite as much, like the Bel Vector series, but do choose one of the better Vectors that let you lock out bands that likely/often aren't used for radar anymore. Like X band. With all the false alarms, you get desensitized, and will drive right into another ticket after "hearing" the alert that you snoozed through or ignored.

Keep in mind that your next ticket may completely cover the difference between the most expensive RD and a compromise RD.

Regarding Laser Jammers, if the product is designed and marketed as something other than a laser jammer, and just happens to have the "side effect" of jamming police laser, the product can't be banned as a laser jammer. So, you might consider Laser Pro Park. It's a "parking sensor." Laser jammers are a bit pricey. You're looking at another $400-500.

As an alternative, you might consider Laser Veil to coat your headlights, fog lights, blinkers. It's the reflective surface that bounces back the laser signal to the police laser gun, and the Veil coating is said to significantly inhibit this. You will hear mixed reviews around here. There's a Laser Veil conference on this forum you might check out. If you believe the hype about the new Veil forumla, it sounds like it almost makes a laser jammer unnecessary. Some on this Forum, however, will tell you it doesn't work at all. At least, they say this regarding the last version of the formula. The new one is still pretty new.

I used (old) Veil before I had the Jammer. I mean, the Parking Sensor. (heheh). I was targetted with laser on several occasions, and immediately slowed down, but I don't know for sure that it saved me. I may not have been going fast enough for them to bother with me. For the $100, or so that it costs, it's probably well worth considering before going to a jammer. And if later you combine it with a jammer, you'll have "that much" more protection...what ever "that much" amounts to.

In sum, (1) a good RD; (2) strongly consider at least Veil, if not (3) a jammer. (4) Always drive with a radar absorbent rabbit out in front whenever possible, so they take the Instant-on/Radar/Laser hit before you do. (5) Read read read on this forum for all kinds of good advice and information about stuff, and then make an informed choice about whether to spend more money on a jammer.


HTH

[eluder98]

thanks for your reply. sorry it took me a few days to respond.

As an alternative, you might consider Laser Veil to coat your headlights, fog lights, blinkers. It's the reflective surface that bounces back the laser signal to the police laser gun, and the Veil coating is said to significantly inhibit this.

so, does this mean the Veil will stop some of the laser from reflicting back to the police gun? does that mean the application is applied on the inside of the headlights or the outside is fine? i'm assuming it does not affect the headlights right... I'm looking to get new headlights anyway. how effective will a black housing headlights be from stopping the reflection of the laser gun?

thanks!

[Doc What, son?]

The Veil is applied to the outside of the glass with a foamy brush that is supplied. Some guys have used airbrushes. If I had even one more use for an air brush, I'd buy one for the purpose of doing such a nice job of it. Still, doing it with the brush didn' t look bad. You can get a pretty even coating with the brush.

It definitely gives the headlights a tinted look, which is somewhat aesthetically pleasing to me, but it dims the brightness of the light to some extent. I compensated for this with PIAA extra bright lightbulbs. They were a bit pricey at $90 or $100, but they are guaranteed for 3 years. I was burning out headlight bulbs at a rate I'm sure that will make these pay for themselves, so what the heck?!

I recall hear ing (someone correct me?) that the new Veil formula isn't as dark as the previous, so this may all be irrelevant.

Oh, yeah, your essential question. Yes, the coating impairs/inhibits the police laser in its quest to get past the glass of your headlight, bounce off the lights reflecting surface, and return through the glass (and the Veil) for a second time on its way back to the laser gun to give a reading. I don't know how it works -- does it selectively block laser light, somewhat like sunscreen, weakening the signal that gets through? Does it act like a filter, like a coloured film placed in front of a light source, changing its colour and, therefore, its frequency as it passes through?

I think it would be worth some time hanging out in the Veil conference of this Forum so that you can learn all you might want to know about this product.

I'm eager to try the new formula, and I haven't even used up my jar of the old.