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    Default Rayee Technology, LTD's only FCC approved RD...

    Hi everyone,

    Well, here it is. This is Rayee Tech's only FCC approved RD model even though they claimed to Roy at CES that all of their products have FCC approval. Lets just have a look at Rayee's CARD (Cheap Ass Radar Detector) and see what ideas they have stolen from a variety of competitors:

    First an foremost an external examination shows that they have essentially duplicated Whistler's spherical condenser lens which is in front of the laser IR detection circuitry. I can't tell if the small Rayee lens is plano-convex (a true condenser lens) or is merely cosmetic and merely has a convex-convex shape. You will also note that the condenser lens located in front of the antenna has a strong convex shape. At first I figured that this lens was plano-convex and truly acted as a condenser lens for the radar antenna. Examination of another of Rayee's photos shows that this lens is merely cosmetic and is convex-convex with zero optical power with regards to radar. Note that Bel/Escort uses plano-convex lenses on several of the RD models to actually bring the incoming radar wavefront to a focus, and that Whistler uses a convex-convex lens to prevent LO feedback into their horns. Thus Rayee's design basically is purely cosmetic yet it flies in the face of an older B.E.L.-Tronics patent which may or may not be still in force. Here is the Rayee design:


    Next, Rayee decided to essentially duplicate Bel/Escort's older style housing for their remote radar detectors. As you can see, Rayee's housing looks nearly identical in design compared to Bel/Escort's tried and true remote radar detector antenna housings:


    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Rayee's wave guide (antenna) design features both a double stepped ridge plus a double stepped floor. So far I haven't done any digging to see if this design infringes on any competitor patents:


    Rayee also has decided to duplicate the construction materials and some design features which Whistler uses for their LO boards. I also see a few things on Rayee's LO board which appear to be taken directly from competitor LO board designs and which may be directly infringing on several competitor patents. Their LO board design, in my opinion, is just too advanced to not be infringing on competitor patents. It is way more advanced than any LO board which Cobra has produced:


    And finally, Rayee's mainboard is called the "GOD-EYE" which is a joke since we all know that its performance is not going to top anything produced by Bel, Escort, Whistler's high end products, or Valentine. Also note the power jack which is visible at the bottom of the board. Apparently Rayee is going to use this antenna and mainboard in some windshield mount RD models:


    So, in a nutshell, what we have here is a product which probably performs better than a Cobra yet which most likely infringes on several competitor patents. But I guess that doesn't really matter to Rayee as long as they can get at least a 100,000 units out the door and paid for by distributors before they finally get shut down. I may be wrong, but too many things about their product design suggest outright duplication of competitor product as well as possible multiple patent infringements.

    Please note: Whistler has absolutely nothing to do with Rayee Technology, LTD.

    Well, what do you all think? I think that Rayee is going to take their money from distributors and run like the wind.


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    I hope Whistler and other RD companys join togother and sue the shi$t out of them. Then there RD can be a REAL Ghost.

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    Default Re: Rayee Technology, LTD's only FCC approved RD...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    I hope Whistler and other RD companys join togother and sue the shi$t out of them.
    x2, I hate people who sue, but getting rid of jokers like that in the industry who steal hundreds of thousands (millions) of dollars of peoples money, deserve to be sued.


    BTW: Great job MEM!
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    Default Re: Rayee Technology, LTD's only FCC approved RD...

    I'm really curious to hear about what Jimbonzzz sees on Rayee's LO board.

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    I don't really understand what is all the fuss on the FCC and patent stuff.

    FWIW, the LPP, L*, PASS, AL, and LI infringes on one or more US patents, and no one cares. And the FCC. It's the manufacturers problem, not the consumers.

    Of course, we don't expect anything more than Cobra performance out of them, but I'm sure no one would care about patents if they actually perform the same or better than the top dogs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadr View Post
    ...Of course, we don't expect anything more than Cobra performance out of them, but I'm sure no one would care about patents if they actually perform the same or better than the top dogs...
    But this is exactly the point. The only way that overseas competitors could make a radar detector which has top performance combined with excellent false alert suppression and very high RDD immunity would be for these overseas competitors to deliberately use patented technologies developed by the North American radar detector manufacturers. If this was to ever happen then it would subsequently force the North American RD manufacturers out of business Then product innovation, product quality and product reliability would go out the window since then the foreign manufacturers would own the entire worldwide market and they would then be able to offer whatever cheap crap they wanted since there are no competitors.

    We all have seen this time and again when China enters and captures other US markets. At first the product quality is pretty good, but then the product quality plummets once they have captured the market and driven all competitors out of business. When is the last time you tried to drill a hole through mild steel with a Chinese made titanium drill bit even when using proper lubrication? You are lucky if the bit isn't worn out after drilling just one hole. Yet seven to ten years ago the initial quality of the Chinese made drill bits was very good. Today all of these Chinese made drill bits are crap since they totally captured the world market. They even turned around and bought the machine tools from several companies which chose to move their manufacturing operations to China. So, now that the product quality has become very poor, how can a US company without the machine tools go back to making high quality drill bits right here in the USA? They can't.

    Hopefully now everyone will see why they should be concerned about any new upstart competitor in the radar detector industry -- especially if the new competitor is infringing on competitor patents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK View Post
    I'm really curious to hear about what Jimbonzzz sees on Rayee's LO board.
    ...push-push oscillator, sub-harmonic mixer, which is typical stuff from Belscort (& Whistler now I think)....

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    Default Re: Rayee Technology, LTD's only FCC approved RD...

    I always thought patents are valid world wide

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    Default Re: Rayee Technology, LTD's only FCC approved RD...

    Can anyone guess who has the majority of US patents for jammers in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLINDER-GUY View Post
    Can anyone guess who has the majority of US patents for jammers in the USA?
    Lidatek.

 

 

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