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    Default Lots of questions

    Hi everyone, I'm a gadget fanatic but just beginning to discover the world of radar detectors, so I have some questions. I have had a radar detector for about 3 years now, its a Cobra WX or ESD something...its a 10 band with voice alert and weather alert. It just stopped working (the voice and sounds) so I am in the market for a new detector. I didn't realize cobra was so lousy until reading posts on here. So that said I guess I want an upgrade, but really have no idea what. I can save and get a good one such as a bel or escort so the money really isn't the issue I'm just wondering which one will give me more for the money. Which is more reliable? Is the Ku radar really something to worry about because if it is I am thinking that the Bel Rx65 is a better investment right? Or can the escort 8500 be programmed in the future to upgrade? Can you update an Rx65? Basically if I am going to spend a lot on one of these I don't want one that is constantly going to be going back for repairs or become quickly outdated. SO I need some opinions guys. I live in Syracuse NY and my driving habits keep me mainly around syracuse oswego, buffalo, albany, once in a while NYC but very rarely. I'm not a terrible speeder, maybe 5-15 over the limit. My main problem is my weakness for red vehicles, usually pontiacs that seem to attract police attention. I'm usually the one with a cop behind me for no apparent reason. Thanks for your help, glad to be here.

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    Wow you do have a lot of questions; let me try and help you out with some of them, in order of appearance.

    Cobras are not good detectors, (except maybe with laser)... but honestly they are more effective at setting off the X50's like wild with POP on; more then they do anything else.


    RX65 vs. X50 they are very similar in 'performance' for the money (It is all trade-offs) and also what features/looks you prefer. You can't go wrong either way.

    More reliable? Again about the same (older REVs had more problem though) they are both pretty solid detectors if taken care of to some extent. (IE dont leave them in 100+degree summer heat on the windshield).

    Don't worry about KU since you live in CNY you should worry about K (Sheriffs mostly) and K, Ka and Laser. (State troopers). In the states you have no need to worry about Ku.

    Both units are upgradeable.

    BTW: I live in Auburn NY (About 40minutes from you).

    *Side note: You will have V1 drones come on here too... so you might as well think about that RD well you are at it because the drones will think about it for you.*

    You can 'search' this exact topic as it has been beaten to death, many times over in-fact, and get all the info you need from the search.

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    i lived out in syracuse for a while and thats where i met and fell in love with my v1. works great out there, nice straight roads, terrific range, and little to no falses. you should also be fine with the other 2 of the big 3, the rx65 and the bel x50. the cobra doesn't do you any justice, especially on these roads. i've driven all up and down 81, 80, 90, 87 etc. and i can tell you, you need something high power with all the twists and turns out there down in only a few areas where traps are nicely hidden. you will only run into laser on the thruway really, other than that everything else is pretty much radar. good luck to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamQuack
    I lived out in syracuse for a while, nice straight roads, terrific range. I've driven all up and down 81, 80, 90, 87 etc. and i can tell you, you need something high power with all the twists and turns out there.


    I'm kidding I just found it funny when I read it. (I know the areas so I see what your saying... but someone unfamiliar with the areas is probably scratching their head.)

    Honestly as I said...and then 'TeamQuack' also said, any of the 'Big 3' there will do you right in the Cuse.

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    I guess I will be the First V1 Drone to tell you its more of a buy for your money,

    I dont own a V1 yet but thats cause money is a issue with me right now, Im in college!
    The V1 cost $400, which is about $50 more than X50 Blue. But you get so much more in that $50 than you get with the X50 or RX65!!
    OK so what do you get??
    1 you get great Radar range (the best actually) and the BEST Laser Detection, Though if you have a threat against Laser you should get a laser Jammer!
    The V1 has the most sensitive detection I have ever seen, me and one of the guys on the board who own a V1 has a K band gun, and we were shooting the gun as fast as we could only sending out a signal for a split second!! It picked up the split second of signal most of the Time like 7/10 times we did the same thing with my Vector 985 which is a older bel but still a great detector very simular to the RX65 which is simular to the X50, It would sometimes pic up the split second, but most of the time it needed to be held down for about a second! So what does this mean to you, the V1 will give you the best predetection against instant on radar, which can be dealy for and one who is speeding! Generaly you want a "rabbit" to follow so he gets shot first and then that gives you time to slow down, the earlier you pick up the radar the more time you have to s;ow down.

    Another thing you get that the X50 wont give you nor will the RX65, is Arrows pointing in the direction of were the radar sorce is coming from, not only does this help with know were the LEO is, it helps you to rule out flases from door openers and such!! this helps in countless ways, lfor ex., if you ever have been say at a stop light, and you RD starts gonig off and you look around but you cant see and LEO anywhere the V1 tells you its coming from ahead or behuind so there is no guessing game involved!!

    Also a very vital part of the V1 that the X50 or the RX65 dont give you is a bogey counter, this simply tells you when you are getting a signal you dont know how many signals you are getting, well the bogey counter tells you 1,2,3....howmany sources its picking up, helps in 2 ways in, say you are driving through a area were cops like to set up a speed trap, and there are multipul radar siganls that you are picking up, well this tells you hey i need to really slow down, cause something is going on ahead, or say your driving on a buisness road with stripmalls with automatic doors and the V1 says 5 signals of k band and the arrows are pointing left and right!! well you would know right there that you are picking up the auto doors and not a signal from ahead, These are just a few examples of how the V1 helps in so many ways to rule out falses!!

    Also the V1 has multi threat display so if on LEO is shooting K band and another is shooting Ka and they are uop ahead the you get a reading like this the bogey counter says 2 and the K and Ka LEDs are lit up and the Arrow UP is flasing!! jsut give you a idea that the V1 is the MOST informative RD out on the Market!!
    I know the X50 has multi threat display but it only tells you K or X or Ka no arrows no counter just the Bars to tell how close the sorce is, which the V1 does have the Lights to show you are getting closer to the source!!

    Now I do have to say this one last thing, The V1 is ACTUALLY CHEAPER than the X50 and RX65, I know that it Cost more, but when you want to talk about value and more for your money, the V2 has several things that you just dont get with the X50 and RX65. for $350 X50 blues gives you good range multithreat and good filtering!! But you are paying for only ONE antenna!! same with the RX65 you are paying $330 for ONE antenna. So if you dont know already the V1 has TWO antennas for Radar and Two IF LEDs to pick up laser Front and back!!! PLUS the arrows and the and bogey counter the multithreat you get a lot more in that $400 then you get out of the $350 or $330!! Plus when you get a V1 you never have to buy a new one again cause of the warranty and when you upgrade you pay for the up grade but they just send you a new detector with the new Rev.

    Thats all I have to say I hope this helps on your decsion!!
    I am not bashin the X50 or RX65 they are good detectors, but like you said you want the most for your money and thats why I say the V1 is the best buy!! And the V1 is #1 just simply put!!

    Welcome to the Forum!!

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    Hey thanks to all of you who've replied so far it's cool to meet people who are familiar with this area too. You've definitely given me some things to think about. I have some time to do so, I'm upgrading my car in the spring and along with it a radar detector. So I understand that the Ku band is used in europe and not here but wasn't there something on Roy's website about the possibility of Ku being used in the US? And if cobras are really good at picking up laser should I keep the one I have as a backup or is it such a piece of s**** that I should just throw it out? Thanks, looking forward to meeting more of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMlvrNY
    Hey thanks to all of you who've replied so far it's cool to meet people who are familiar with this area too. You've definitely given me some things to think about. I have some time to do so, I'm upgrading my car in the spring and along with it a radar detector. So I understand that the Ku band is used in europe and not here but wasn't there something on Roy's website about the possibility of Ku being used in the US? And if cobras are really good at picking up laser should I keep the one I have as a backup or is it such a piece of s**** that I should just throw it out? Thanks, looking forward to meeting more of you.
    Don't worry about Ku band. I'm pretty sure the top3 detects Ku band already (has the option, i can tell u the v1 does cause only cause i own one). Its just another frequency nothing too special so that should be the least of your concerns (in my opinion).

    i have my cobra as a back-up but its so bad i didn't even use it when i had my v1 updated i just slowed down at hot spots and looked at brake lights. see if you can maybe sell it on flea bay and get a couple bucks for it.

 

 

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