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    Default V1 with GPS?

    So, my friend sent an email to Valentine asking if they had plans to make a GPS based detector and this was there reply.

    Dear Sir:
    Thanks for your email.

    We never, at present we have no plans for a GPS detector. In our opinion, these devices have a fatal flaw. These GPS detectors have an "intelligent" signal classifying routine that may miss a new police signal by mistaking it for a previously marked-to-exclude door sensor signal, thereby excluding the police signal as well. Traffic officers know where the falses are and they love to set up traps in the shadow of these falses. If they do this in a "marked-out area," this can be a Very Bad Thing.

    Secondly, these units are in our opinion, jack of all trades, master of none. They have GPS capabilities but are not as good as a true GPS device. We also believe that they have radar detection circuitry, but are not as good a true detector.

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    Default Re: V1 with GPS?

    Easy cop out responce, the V1 also has risky features. Did they forget about 30 sec mute and signal strength mute???? What about big "L" and little "l"??? Thoes modes dont even have a feature to try and distinguish between a false and real radar?

    If they added GPS to these modes it would be much less risky to use because you can program it to automatically switch from "A" to "L" or "l" according to area, and not forget to switch it back because GPS would do it for you (people have forgotten to switch it back to "A" mode and have gotten a ticket).

    Please VR, think about what you have to offer and think out side the box just a little.

    Take the "jack of all trades, master of none" concept and make it master of all. 1/10mi "L" or "l" mode according to GPS area, and maybe increase the timed muting up to 60 seconds.
    Last edited by CJR238; 04-18-2011 at 08:52 AM.

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    Default Re: V1 with GPS?

    Wow, that's discouraging!

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    Other things a V1 could do w/a GPS:

    1. Suppress (or mute) alerts and bogey-lock tones when traveling at speeds below say, 20 mph. That way when you're driving through town, or a parking lot, you aren't hearing "dee-deet brap brap dee-deet brap dee-deet brap brap" the whole time.

    2. (similar to 1). Auto-switch between A/l/L based on speed.

    3. Allow turning on/off bands, or switching between A/l/L modes based on location. Imagine hitting the NJ border from NY, or the Ohio border from PA and the V1 turns X band on automatically!

    4. Recognition and suppression of traffic drones (including the "instant-on" types).
    If I'm passing you on the right, YOU are in the wrong lane!

    If speed kills, how come I'm still alive?

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    Default Re: V1 with GPS?

    I sent them a rather bizarr but hilarious email a month ago hoping to get some info while making them laugh. Never heard back lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombebomb View Post
    I sent them a rather bizarr but hilarious email a month ago hoping to get some info while making them laugh. Never heard back lol.
    You should post your email... give us a laugh...
    If I'm passing you on the right, YOU are in the wrong lane!

    If speed kills, how come I'm still alive?

    Active Countermeasures: V1 3.858, Escort Redline, Beltronics STi-R+, LI Dual 7.1x CPU/8.7 Heads (front)
    Other/Backup Countermeasures: V1 3.813 (loaned to friend), Beltronics Pro RX65 M4 6.3
    Vehicle: 2002 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro
    LEO Toys: Kustom Pro Laser II & III
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpatz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bombebomb View Post
    I sent them a rather bizarr but hilarious email a month ago hoping to get some info while making them laugh. Never heard back lol.
    You should post your email... give us a laugh...
    First off, hello to everyone at Valentine research (although only one person is going to read this haha).

    Second off, you have got this same email 50 times already I am sure.

    Now down to the nitty gritty, no hoo haa about pop being called pop or soda. We all know it is Pop here in Ohio!

    As you are aware (and everyone else who is a Radar Detector nut) that the beloved, cherished arrows that are so close to our hearts have recently had their patent expire (boooooo!). Now, get your hand off that automated email button that your quickly scurrying to!

    I want details, I want the inside scoop, I want information that is so closely guarded that letting it into the wrong hands could lead to nuclear war,and I know Valentine research holds that information considering the V1 is the greatest thing on earth besides Mike, who is obviously better than the V1 as he created such a marvel of a radar detection device.

    So, what does Valentine Research have hidden in their sleeve, I want you to cut the sleeves off and let me see what is in store, if you wish we can even uncover just part of the sleeve not to expose the whole operation!

    Now, since my question was out of the way I must ask you this also (don't forget to answer the top question though!)

    Now that the arrow patent has expired, how many bands do you think Cobra Radar Detectors will claim they can detect? I mean if they put two antenna's on a cobra, 22 bands turns into 44. That is 11 times more bands than the V1, but fear not, as a cobra can barely let me know when the local walgreens is open until I am already at the front door.

    Thank you for your time, hopefully ill get an answer that does not consist of an automated response. Everything you inform me of will be kept top secret of course, as I have a Class 5 secret clearence from the NRDCNA (Nation Radar Detection Convention Network Association), yes, I did just make that up.

    Hope to hear from you soon!
    I never knew how long that email was lol. Sorry if the grammar, or spelling is of a 3rd grader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    Easy cop out responce, the V1 also has risky features. Did they forget about 30 sec mute and signal strength mute???? What about big "L" and little "l"??? Thoes modes dont even have a feature to try and distinguish between a false and real radar?
    Well Escort never responds to their detectors constantly locking out Real K-Band threats. It works both ways. At least when muting your V1 you have to do it manually with the push of a bottom where Escort just blocks it out and you won't know til you're owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassman View Post
    So, my friend sent an email to Valentine asking if they had plans to make a GPS based detector and this was there reply.

    Dear Sir:
    Thanks for your email.

    We never, at present we have no plans for a GPS detector. In our opinion, these devices have a fatal flaw. These GPS detectors have an "intelligent" signal classifying routine that may miss a new police signal by mistaking it for a previously marked-to-exclude door sensor signal, thereby excluding the police signal as well. Traffic officers know where the falses are and they love to set up traps in the shadow of these falses. If they do this in a "marked-out area," this can be a Very Bad Thing.

    Secondly, these units are in our opinion, jack of all trades, master of none. They have GPS capabilities but are not as good as a true GPS device. We also believe that they have radar detection circuitry, but are not as good a true detector.
    Interestingly, no mention of the fact that the false alert lockout technology is patent protected, so they couldn't use it even if they wanted to.

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    Default Re: V1 with GPS?

    Quote Originally Posted by glassman View Post
    So, my friend sent an email to Valentine asking if they had plans to make a GPS based detector and this was there reply.

    Dear Sir:
    Thanks for your email.

    We never, at present we have no plans for a GPS detector. In our opinion, these devices have a fatal flaw. These GPS detectors have an "intelligent" signal classifying routine that may miss a new police signal by mistaking it for a previously marked-to-exclude door sensor signal, thereby excluding the police signal as well. Traffic officers know where the falses are and they love to set up traps in the shadow of these falses. If they do this in a "marked-out area," this can be a Very Bad Thing.

    Secondly, these units are in our opinion, jack of all trades, master of none. They have GPS capabilities but are not as good as a true GPS device. We also believe that they have radar detection circuitry, but are not as good a true detector.
    Speaking from a consumers perspective this sucks. Valentine has been in "coast mode" for a while now, and this Industry needs competition to push the envelope. ESCORT and Valentine have always been competitive in recent years, but now it appears that Valentine has nothing more to offer. Hoping for Whistler and Cobra to promote development competition in the Industry is a joke as both of these companies are followers, not leaders. I hope I am wrong about Valentine (for the sake of the consumer), but it sure appears that Valentine has given up the ship...

 

 

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