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    Default Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Okay, I understand why military bases would frown upon radar detectors. I could go out on a limb, and I might understand why Washington DC doesn't want you to have one.

    But Virginia?

    What logical purpose, does making RD's illegal in Virginia serve? It's not like they have access to good equipment, and there are enough Rabbits on the road to write plenty of tickets for. Since they are outlawed, the citizens are aware of the law, and not only can you not have a Radar Detector, you can't buy one in Virginia either. The penalty for having a Radar Detector in your car is a $100 ticket, and your Radar Detector isn't confiscated. As far as I know, you do not receive any points on your license.

    Given those set of facts, I can only conclude that this is not a law designed to eliminate Radar Detection devices, but rather, a law aimed at generating revenue against citizens outside the state. Because those will be the majority of people who use RD's in Virginia.

    Make it illegal to buy, distribute RD's in Virginia (where its citizens are), and give a $100 fine to anyone who has them (who will be outsiders of the state, passing through.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an attempt from a group of concerned citizens to get rid of this law.
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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    The main reason VA, doesn't want you to have one is because they believe the devices contribute to excessive speed. “Speed on the roads of the commonwealth is a major problem,” said Del. Manoli Loupassi, R-Richmond. “I don’t think we ought to be passing laws that make our roads less safe.”

    The state’s 48-year-old ban on the devices was defeated in 2010 by the House of Delegates, 61-38.
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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Quote Originally Posted by nosbusa View Post
    The main reason VA, doesn't want you to have one is because they believe the devices contribute to excessive speed. “Speed on the roads of the commonwealth is a major problem,” said Del. Manoli Loupassi, R-Richmond. “I don’t think we ought to be passing laws that make our roads less safe.”

    The state’s 48-year-old ban on the devices was defeated in 2010 by the House of Delegates, 61-38.
    I'm sure, just as a gun contributes to excessive violence. *rollleyes*

    At least, it wasn't a slam dunk vote. 60-40.
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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    I once lived in VA, and hoped the devices would NOT become legal. Their anti-RD skills then were a joke. Their anit-RD skills still suck and for that reason, I hope they don't change the law. I would be more specific about their short-comings, but decided against it as it may help them. I like them clueless. I guess I shouldn't be condescending, after all they have only been illegal in that state for 48 years, and obviously have not had time to "hone" their anti-RD skills.

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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Probably why only PA State Troopers can use radar...stationary, not moving. No laser either. Must be something that blows in from the Atlantic.

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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Quote Originally Posted by TerragonSix View Post
    Okay, I understand why military bases would frown upon radar detectors. I could go out on a limb, and I might understand why Washington DC doesn't want you to have one.

    But Virginia?

    What logical purpose, does making RD's illegal in Virginia serve? It's not like they have access to good equipment, and there are enough Rabbits on the road to write plenty of tickets for. Since they are outlawed, the citizens are aware of the law, and not only can you not have a Radar Detector, you can't buy one in Virginia either. The penalty for having a Radar Detector in your car is a $100 ticket, and your Radar Detector isn't confiscated. As far as I know, you do not receive any points on your license.

    Given those set of facts, I can only conclude that this is not a law designed to eliminate Radar Detection devices, but rather, a law aimed at generating revenue against citizens outside the state. Because those will be the majority of people who use RD's in Virginia.

    Make it illegal to buy, distribute RD's in Virginia (where its citizens are), and give a $100 fine to anyone who has them (who will be outsiders of the state, passing through.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an attempt from a group of concerned citizens to get rid of this law.

    I will start by say that they do not Confiscate the units, they write down the serial number. It is a way of generating revenue. It makes it easier for the police to catch drivers speeding. The RD ban has not lowered the death rate on Virginia's road below that of the other 49 states...I am not sure how Virginia has got away with regulating the Airwaves by making it illegal to receive a few frequency bands in the radio spectrum...All electronic equipment there is a FCC ID, not a Virginia ID on it...This ban on RD's takes work away from automotive electronics installers, takes sales money from retailers and SALES TAX from the state. The ban force people that want RD's to go out of state to get them...The RD ban is a looser all the way around. The ban force police to chase after RD's. This chasing of RD's take the police away from more important duties. While stopping a driver for a RD, a real crime may be committed that, that officer could have responded to. Police Department also spend a lot of money on a device known as a Radar Detector-Detector (RDD)...The most popular RDD is the Spectre...The Spectre cost about $2500 - $3000 per unit. The Spectre's are also imported from Australia (I'd guess, made in China), so money is going out of the country for these RDD's...Since I live in Virginia, I would really like to see this dumb law repealed. I have been fighting to repeal it for several years but I have got very little help. There are some on-line petitions on this subject (I will not post the URL's)...If enough people would help fight for the repeal of this ban, it would go away...We need to fight for our rights!!!...Sorry for my Rant but I hate this RD ban.

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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Quote Originally Posted by zappy View Post
    I once lived in VA, and hoped the devices would NOT become legal. Their anti-RD skills then were a joke. Their anit-RD skills still suck and for that reason, I hope they don't change the law. I would be more specific about their short-comings, but decided against it as it may help them. I like them clueless. I guess I shouldn't be condescending, after all they have only been illegal in that state for 48 years, and obviously have not had time to "hone" their anti-RD skills.
    Radar Detector have only been illegal in Virginia since the 1970's when they first came on the market...Virginia has banned any and all devices that give drivers any kind of warning to speed traps.

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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Have they heard of the Federal Communications Act of 1934? The citizens have to right to listen to any radio frequency, provided it does not have privileged information? RADAR does not have privliged info, and it is a radio frequency. It's a BS law that wouldn't stand up to the supreme court.

    You could show the traffic statistics, show the Federal Law, and provide data on how Virginia is LOSING more money banning radars, than allowing Radar Detectors legalized and make a profit off of them via taxes. It would make the state government of Virginia look asinine.
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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Quote Originally Posted by TerragonSix View Post
    Have they heard of the Federal Communications Act of 1934? The citizens have to right to listen to any radio frequency, provided it does not have privileged information? RADAR does not have privliged info, and it is a radio frequency. It's a BS law that wouldn't stand up to the supreme court.

    You could show the traffic statistics, show the Federal Law, and provide data on how Virginia is LOSING more money banning radars, than allowing Radar Detectors legalized and make a profit off of them via taxes. It would make the state government of Virginia look asinine.
    The law needs to be taken into the federal courts and then it may go away.

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    Default Re: Tell me, what makes VA so special?

    Quote Originally Posted by NormSky View Post
    Probably why only PA State Troopers can use radar...stationary, not moving. No laser either. Must be something that blows in from the Atlantic.
    "Tradition". lol
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