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    Default a scanner detector?

    i just found out having a scanner in NY is illegal. is there such a thing as a scanner detector, basically is there any way leo can tell if your using a scanner? (like how leo can use spectre to detect radar)

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    no they can't be detected really like spectre

    I am careful when i turn my scanner on in NY most of the time i leave it in my trunk....I do however drive through NY with both my antenna's on my car CB and external scanner antenna. I try not to draw attention to my self.

    Cops can search your car and if they find it it's a misdemeanor unless you have a HAM/radio operator licence

    You should be fine with a hand held but i have yet to find my scanner useful in finding speed traps

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    Default Re: a scanner detector?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamQuack
    i just found out having a scanner in NY is illegal. is there such a thing as a scanner detector, basically is there any way leo can tell if your using a scanner? (like how leo can use spectre to detect radar)
    In Ontario are legal, only Industry Canada (so a federal agency) regulates them and this is only about DIGITAL scanners, the analog-only ones nobody regulates them... because right after Christmas I will buy my very first scanner, a BCD396T (digital+analog), I've done some research within the people who sell this units in Toronto and I asked them the EXACT question you have asked, their answer: NO, no police cruisers are equiped with any scanner-detector device, they told me that there is no such device on the market to detect scanners, in my case they told me that Ont police has no business in stoping a car when they see a scanner in plain view... in your case, NY case, my advice is to always keep it not in plain view, on your passenger seat, or under the dash but in a place where you can get radio signals from outside... use a handheld scanner so you never have to leave it in the car...

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    I just looked up the scanning laws in NY because someone mentioned a felony. It's not a felony, it is only a misdemeanor.

    Here is what the NY Statue says: Section 397 - New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law

    A person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to
    his special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving
    set capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for
    police use or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in
    any way knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages
    by the police without having first secured a permit to do so from the
    person authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body
    or board of the city, town or village in which such person resides,
    or where such person resides outside of a city, or village in a
    county having a county police department by the board of supervisors
    of such county, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not
    exceeding one thousand dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six
    months, or both.
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    Until you can get a ham license or a permit, just get a handheld scanner and put it on the car seat. It works fine there.

    Since most of us are "professional speeders," we usually know well in advance we are about to be pulled over. You have plenty of time to stash the portable under the seat and the cop won't know the difference. Just don't wait until he's right behind you to stash it.

    Scanners are 100% effective against air enforcement. You can count on a 10-20 mile advance warning. And they will usually let you know well in advance of organized laser traps, where a trooper stands on a bridge and calls out the speeds to one of several chase cars waiting. When they call out distances with each violation, that means they're using laser.

    I find the scanner's best use is the information it provides when the weather is bad, especially in the winter. You know what roads have hazardous conditions and what roads are closed, etc. Compared to the information provided by a scanner, AM-FM radio traffic reports are an absolute joke! I don't go anywhere in the winter without a scanner.

    The other day a local TV traffic reporter said there was a slide-off in my county and that the roads there were slick and hazardous. After listening to the scanner, I realized that was an isolated incident in the far northern part of the county, and that the roads in 95% of the county were clear and dry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTO_04
    Until you can get a ham license or a permit, just get a handheld scanner and put it on the car seat. It works fine there.

    Since most of us are "professional speeders," we usually know well in advance we are about to be pulled over. You have plenty of time to stash the portable under the seat and the cop won't know the difference. Just don't wait until he's right behind you to stash it.

    Scanners are 100% effective against air enforcement. You can count on a 10-20 mile advance warning. And they will usually let you know well in advance of organized laser traps, where a trooper stands on a bridge and calls out the speeds to one of several chase cars waiting. When they call out distances with each violation, that means they're using laser.

    I find the scanner's best use is the information it provides when the weather is bad, especially in the winter. You know what roads have hazardous conditions and what roads are closed, etc. Compared to the information provided by a scanner, AM-FM radio traffic reports are an absolute joke! I don't go anywhere in the winter without a scanner.

    The other day a local TV traffic reporter said there was a slide-off in my county and that the roads there were slick and hazardous. After listening to the scanner, I realized that was an isolated incident in the far northern part of the county, and that the roads in 95% of the county were clear and dry!

    GTO_04
    Thanks a lot for the precious info
    But btw, who is in charge with providing weather and road updates to the scanner :roll: TV/Radio stations have their own people doing the updates, so if we get wrong info we all know who to blame for, but what about the scanner's info, is there any human inteligence controling all the updates :roll:

    Are you happy with your newly acquired BCD396T? something that it's missing, something you would have been better off with, besides the lack of the GPS feature???

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    Why even bother... just get a radio permit and go for it! It seems like driving a car without a license, well it's illegal but it seems like unnecessary hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Warrior
    Thanks a lot for the precious info
    But btw, who is in charge with providing weather and road updates to the scanner :roll: TV/Radio stations have their own people doing the updates, so if we get wrong info we all know who to blame for, but what about the scanner's info, is there any human inteligence controling all the updates :roll:

    Are you happy with your newly acquired BCD396T? something that it's missing, something you would have been better off with, besides the lack of the GPS feature???
    I get my road report from LEO comments. When they answer a dispatch and say "I have 5 cars in the ditch" that's not a good sign to go out driving. Or if he says "get state highway (DOT) out here.....NOW!," that is not a good sign. I listen for lots of accidents in a short period of time on a stretch of road so I know I should avoid that. If they are at the scene of an accident and advise fire trucks and ambulances responding to "use extreme caution" that means the roads are a solid sheet of ice. Unfortunately, I have heard a lot of those comments lately.

    I am happy overall with my 396T. It has a few annoying issues, but all scanners do. If I monitor a digital system along with my local EDACS system, I will sometimes hear 5 beeps after each EDACS transmission. It is kind of annoying. But if you don't monitor EDACS and digital both at the same time, it is not an issue. Uniden will probably come up with a firmware fix for that issue.

    The 396 is a good performer. It has good audio quality. It is very stealthy. It is almost pocket sized. With a short Comet SMA 50 antenna it looks like a cell phone LOL! And it has good RF sensitivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTO_04
    I get my road report from LEO comments. When they answer a dispatch and say "I have 5 cars in the ditch" that's not a good sign to go out driving. Or if he says "get state highway (DOT) out here.....NOW!," that is not a good sign. I listen for lots of accidents in a short period of time on a stretch of road so I know I should avoid that. If they are at the scene of an accident and advise fire trucks and ambulances responding to "use extreme caution" that means the roads are a solid sheet of ice. Unfortunately, I have heard a lot of those comments lately.

    I am happy overall with my 396T. It has a few annoying issues, but all scanners do. If I monitor a digital system along with my local EDACS system, I will sometimes hear 5 beeps after each EDACS transmission. It is kind of annoying. But if you don't monitor EDACS and digital both at the same time, it is not an issue. Uniden will probably come up with a firmware fix for that issue.

    The 396 is a good performer. It has good audio quality. It is very stealthy. It is almost pocket sized. With a short Comet SMA 50 antenna it looks like a cell phone LOL! And it has good RF sensitivity.

    GTO_04
    10-4 and once again thanks a lot for aditional info :wink:
    Is this EDACS the Encrypted Digital Audio and whatever :?: :roll: that nobody can listen to :roll:

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    No EDACS is another form of Trunking. Its not encrypted with EDACS alone.
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