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    Default BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    I had my STi-R+ and LI Dual installed at a professional shop a couple of weeks ago. I am very happy with the install with the exception of the radar receiver placement. I was told it would be installed behind the bumper cover but when I picked it up, it was behind the grille. Unfortunately, the grille is chrome.

    My question for you guys is, is it better to leave it where it is now or to move it behind the bumper cover? The shop said they would move it for free but I assume they wouldn't move it back if I didn't like the results so my decision will be final.


    The shop told me an exec from Escort came by the shop while they were installing an 9500 CI on another e92 and he recommended they place it behind the grille. They had previously always installed it behind the bumper cover.

    My one concern is that I've read in a couple of places that newer BMW bumpers are very bad a passing a radar signal.

    "Some of the newer BMW models,AUDI's and VW's have have very "bad" bumpers,that don't pass Radar signals well.VAG cars have bumpers from PPP-EPDM which attenuate radar signals. Bumpers made with/from PP,ABS+PET, ABS, ASA, EVA, PS will pass Radar signals. Another VERY important thing is to ALWAYS mount radar receiver at least 2-3 inches behind the bumper or any other (plastic) obstacle."

    Does anyone have any experience installing the radar receiver from a 9500 CI or STi-R behind a newer BMW bumper cover? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    The rest of my install is below...enjoy!



    I told them where to put the LI heads. I didn't want the vertical install and this is the next best placement.



    Here's a closeup of the radar receiver behind the right grille.



    Here are the LI Dual's mounted level with the bubbles facing outward. I also spray painted the screws black so they don't stand out as much. On the first picture you can see on the left they are painted and on the right I had not painted them yet.



    You can see the LI bubble receivers can see a laser shot from a very steep angle (i.e. overpass shots) I had them mount the receivers as far forward as possible without sticking out when viewed straight down.



    Nice and level with a minimalist bracket.



    I had them install everything in the ash tray with the display on top, controls on the bottom and the LI power switch on the right. It looks very stock and the ash tray can be closed for stealth and thieves. I don't mind having to look down at the display since most of the time it yells at me anyway and there is no need to look down. There was a ~$300 option to put it in the mirror but I decided it was'nt worth the money or the possible distraction having it in my line of sight.



    They installed the USB port in the OBD box with Velcro so it can easily be accessed and pulled out.



    There is an external speaker for the STi-R+ and also for the LI installed just below the steering column. It's very loud and can easily be heard over my stereo. I've also reprogrammed the LI to have no start up sound and no parking aid for a silent start. The green light lets me know the LI is on and a simple shot from a remote control lets me know it's working. The LI box is also installed hidden away inside the footwell behind a cover. I'm not exactly sure where the STi-R+ brains are but with the USB extension, I hopefully won't need to access it.



    The GPS antenna is installed under the dash just to the left of the navigation screen. It gets a signal in about 1-2 minutes which i assume is normal. It has no trouble keeping a signal once acquired.

    Feel free to comment/criticize if you think something can be done better. Also, any advice on the radar receiver placement would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

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    Awesome install dude!

    I've had similar concerns about sti-r antenna placement. I read that veil guy had his behind the kidney grille and it worked well. However, a partially obstructed antenna is sometimes worse than a fully obstructed one.

    Your best bet is to test it out against false sources to test the range.

    Have you considered one of the two slots next to the bottom grille of the LI's?

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    Default Re: BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    I think the chrome on the kidney grill may screw with the antenna. I think I would have cut the lower grill and put the antenna in it unobstructed. I would have probably put the LIs (HPs because they would be vertical) in between the slots of the kidney grill. I think many are going to say you will get owned with them that low. Either way, rent a lidar gun and test. The M3 is sweet!!

    Edit:

    On a side note. I have yet to find a installer in my area that really knows anything about where to install the radar/laser heads. As far as looks, they do an outstanding job. But, I think some of them would install jammers behind the bummer if you didn't stop them.
    Last edited by gotwake; 08-09-2011 at 08:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Your best bet is to test it out against false sources to test the range.
    My biggest concern is Ka range and unfortunately there are no Ka falses in my area to test on. On a recent low powered Ka photo radar van encounter it gave me ~100 ft of warning.

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    Default Re: BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    Quote Originally Posted by M3NOLA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Your best bet is to test it out against false sources to test the range.
    My biggest concern is Ka range and unfortunately there are no Ka falses in my area to test on. On a recent low powered Ka photo radar van encounter it gave me ~100 ft of warning.
    How is it on K? Is it segmented with RDR off?

    You should get more than 100 ft range, especially with a STi-R.

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    Default Re: BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by M3NOLA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Your best bet is to test it out against false sources to test the range.
    My biggest concern is Ka range and unfortunately there are no Ka falses in my area to test on. On a recent low powered Ka photo radar van encounter it gave me ~100 ft of warning.
    How is it on K? Is it segmented with RDR off?

    You should get more than 100 ft range, especially with a STi-R.
    I'm not sure where I saw it (I'm too lazy to search), but someone had mounted it behind a chrome grill and had moved it because it killed ka reception.

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    I wouldn't mount the antenna behind the grill like that, it will decrease range. Also, your LI's are WAY to low and you will get owned. I bet you payed top dollar for that install too... tsk, tsk... you should of looked here first. I guarantee I'll get 500+ ft PT's on your set up. Your Stir + antenna should be where your LI heads are.

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    Default Re: BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    looks good, if you move the antenna to the middle where your heads are that would be too easy, test from there if you can, if they fail just move the LI to the grill in the vertical set up shouldn't be a problem, when I moved mines the move was rather easy after the hard part was done. See my install under Hemihem.

    good luck

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    Default Re: BMW M3 e92 STi-R+ and LI Dual Install - Completed but NEED ADVICE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by M3NOLA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    Your best bet is to test it out against false sources to test the range.
    My biggest concern is Ka range and unfortunately there are no Ka falses in my area to test on. On a recent low powered Ka photo radar van encounter it gave me ~100 ft of warning.
    How is it on K? Is it segmented with RDR off?

    You should get more than 100 ft range, especially with a STi-R.
    K seems pretty good. RDR, POP and X are off but I havent segmented yet since I don't know what bands are used in my area (Calgary). After a month or so of monitoring I'll segment.

    The 100 ft range was on a forward facing low powered Ka camera van (espcially hard to detect). Ka from other sources is better although it doesn't seem to me much better (and maybe a little worse) than my old Escort 8500 (not X50).

 

 

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