Spectre Conference

[radarroy]

Welcome to RadarDetectors.Net online forum.

This conference is for general discussion of the Spectre and other Radar Detector Detectors such as VG2

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Enjoy the site, and we welcome your comments and/or questions...

[D.E.T]

The detectors are banned here in Finland. Though we have long, empty main roads (Finland is quite thinly populated) and low speed limits, use of a detector is very tempting.

Also Spectre is widely used here. And that is a real and annoying problem. I do not understand why detector manufacturers has not come out with something real against Spectre. Non detectable detector is possible and would even not be very expensive to manufacture - more expensive than the current models of course.
Spectre has now been on the market since 2002 so time for developing has been a lot.
Could somebody from the industry tell what is the problem??? I'm sure that in Europe the price for such detector would not be a problem.

[Bruno]

I wonder has any RD manufacturer ever made a query about what do we RD users would like to have and how much would we be willing to pay for it?
I would be happy to participate.

Of course there is the risk that one pays some hefty sum of money to get Spectre v X undetectable RD, just to realise that after some weeks there is the version X+1 of Spectre that is oh so able to detect that model.
We would just have to live with it, I am afraid.

[mystic]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Of course there is the risk that one pays some hefty sum of money to get Spectre v X undetectable RD, just to realise that after some weeks there is the version X+1 of Spectre that is oh so able to detect that model.
We would just have to live with it, I am afraid.

I think the answer is not in playing hide and seek with the frequency of the LO, but in totally cutting off the leaking emmissions. Having done that, no device could detect a detector. I also think that the technology is there but possibly the detector makers don't realize the potential market. Whoever produces the first fully cloaked detector will sell a lot of them real fast (assuming it is at least a decent detector). I've been waiting for a year and a half.

[radarroy]

They know that the market is there, they just need to come up with something that works...

[mystic]

Originally Posted by RadarRoy

They know that the market is there, they just need to come up with something that works...

I'm glad to hear that. And I'm surprised it has been so difficult. Thats why I watch your website at least once a week because its the only place that has information and not sales hype.
And thanks for this forum. Its a great way to network info.

[Flitsservice.nl]

Actually it is not so difficult. Theo nly thing is that you wont receive any more X band radars, because the RDD is looking in that frequency spectrum.

On our forum there are several technicians working on rdd filters, specifically for the Bel 975 type antennes, because those are the only ones sold in Holland.

See: http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...ic.php?t=12761

http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...pic.php?t=9984

http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...r=asc&start=50

I myself tested one model and the rdd did not beep! This was a SpectreII.

[mnkay]

The radar manufacturers are not going to lead in this business and will always follow the RDD and Radar Gun manufacturers. It is more profitable to counteract than it is to act when it comes to the general consumer. So much easier and cheaper to buy a RDD or Radar gun and test it than it is to research. The police advertize a new weapon and warn the public and the RD makers come up with a countermaeasure and saves the day. This is exactly what is going on and will continue as long as the market supports "second best". The technology does exist to totally filter the ocillator for leakage. The technology in the radar detectors is not very different from the ones 15 years ago, just have less leakage and are quicker and smaller. DSP (Digital Signal Processing) helps on frequency scans and makes it much quicker but ocillator still releases noise which will always be detectable by a RDD.

In conclusion, the radar detector manufacturers are making a fortune on countermeasure hype and will continue to do so until they step up to the plate and give the consumer the ultimate in Radar and Laser defence. They need to think outside the box and also address future technology that could conteract the the Radar/laser device and I belive the consumers (us) would pay a hefty price for a device that works and will work for years to come and be dominate.

[mnkay]

Oh yeah,


Spectre 3 is multiband. So the elimination of X-Band does not make a difference in the Radar detector. It will still be detected in another band. (If the operator is searching that band)

[InfoAust]

Originally Posted by Flitsservice.nl

Actually it is not so difficult. Theo nly thing is that you wont receive any more X band radars, because the RDD is looking in that frequency spectrum.

On our forum there are several technicians working on rdd filters, specifically for the Bel 975 type antennes, because those are the only ones sold in Holland.

See: http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...ic.php?t=12761

http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...pic.php?t=9984

http://images.flitsservice.nl/phpBB/...r=asc&start=50

I myself tested one model and the rdd did not beep! This was a SpectreII.

The Spectre only sweeps between figures A and B and not numerous bands.