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    Okay, so I've read this sticky thread and printed the directions from VR's site about programming, but I still have several questions and concerns some of you veterans might be able to answer.

    1a. If I K-band auto mute for thirty seconds, will this setting only apply in the L-modes? If so, in A mode there should be no mute, right? This doesn't seem to be the case with my unit (3.864.) When I mute, it gets quiet in A mode as well.

    1b. I saw in a neighboring thread that in little l mode, you should still hear K band in auto mute, just at the muted volume, but I don't get any sound on K, and I'm running 3.864. Thoughts?

    2. If 1a is true, then does that also apply to turning off x and pop? In other words, even if I turn them off, in A mode will they be activated?

    3. I've noticed that occasionally, I still get x band alerts in L mode, even when I've deactivated the band. Is the detector getting overloaded when that happens? Have you guys ever experienced a brief flash of x, when approaching automatic doors, even when you've specifically disabled x in programming mode?

    4. Anybody have an e-mail address for Valentine Research? Maybe I'm just blind or something, but I can't find it on the site. Sometimes I'd rather explain issues and ask questions via e-mail, than to be rushed off the phone by somebody who clearly doesn't want to have a conversation about radar detection.

    5. My V1 is only two weeks old, but I'm kinda bummed about all the false alerts (which is why I'm programming.)

    To be fair, the V1 has saved my ass once already, when it picked up a Ka signal from behind from a cruiser I would have otherwise missed visually, but is the STI or Escort better for filtering out falses?

    Maybe I'm just expecting too much and need to spend more time with the unit--I know some of you will definitely say that. But I'm having a little bit of buyer's remorse. The ghosting thread also resonated with my experiences. Talk me off the ledge. I want good radar coverage, but from a low maintenance unit.

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    Default Re: Newbie Questions About Programming, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Venusian_Artist
    Okay, so I've read this sticky thread and printed the directions from VR's site about programming, but I still have several questions and concerns some of you veterans might be able to answer.

    1a. If I K-band auto mute for thirty seconds, will this setting only apply in the L-modes? If so, in A mode there should be no mute, right? This doesn't seem to be the case with my unit (3.864.) When I mute, it gets quiet in A mode as well.

    1b. I saw in a neighboring thread that in little l mode, you should still hear K band in auto mute, just at the muted volume, but I don't get any sound on K, and I'm running 3.864. Thoughts?

    2. If 1a is true, then does that also apply to turning off x and pop? In other words, even if I turn them off, in A mode will they be activated?

    3. I've noticed that occasionally, I still get x band alerts in L mode, even when I've deactivated the band. Is the detector getting overloaded when that happens? Have you guys ever experienced a brief flash of x, when approaching automatic doors, even when you've specifically disabled x in programming mode?

    4. Anybody have an e-mail address for Valentine Research? Maybe I'm just blind or something, but I can't find it on the site. Sometimes I'd rather explain issues and ask questions via e-mail, than to be rushed off the phone by somebody who clearly doesn't want to have a conversation about radar detection.

    5. My V1 is only two weeks old, but I'm kinda bummed about all the false alerts (which is why I'm programming.)

    To be fair, the V1 has saved my ass once already, when it picked up a Ka signal from behind from a cruiser I would have otherwise missed visually, but is the STI or Escort better for filtering out falses?

    Maybe I'm just expecting too much and need to spend more time with the unit--I know some of you will definitely say that. But I'm having a little bit of buyer's remorse. The ghosting thread also resonated with my experiences. Talk me off the ledge. I want good radar coverage, but from a low maintenance unit.
    i'll do my best to respond to your questions.

    1a) yes, the muting only works in L modes (for some reason, i think it only works in little L mode on mine?). not sure why your unit does the same in A mode.
    1b) hmm.. are you sure you didn't accidently turn off your K band? but that's weird also..
    2) if you turn off X and POP they will remain off no matter which mode you're in.
    3) i haven't had that happen to me personally, this is weird..

    good luck with your problems bro! hope things get resolved. if it's only 2 weeks old, you can always send it back right?

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    Venusian_Artist,read very carefully this thread,written by RacerX.Everything you need to know about rear K-band automute and how different automute settings work,he explained in detail here:

    http://www.radardetector.net/Final-V...des.-2212t.php

    This thread is a must read,for every V1 newbie.

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    Default Re: Newbie Questions About Programming, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Venusian_Artist
    Okay, so I've read this sticky thread and printed the directions from VR's site about programming, but I still have several questions and concerns some of you veterans might be able to answer.

    1a. If I K-band auto mute for thirty seconds, will this setting only apply in the L-modes? If so, in A mode there should be no mute, right? This doesn't seem to be the case with my unit (3.864.) When I mute, it gets quiet in A mode as well.
    Automute should only affect the l-modes, A-mode should act as if it were unaffected. This is as of 3.863, I'm not sure if this behavior changed in later revisions.

    1b. I saw in a neighboring thread that in little l mode, you should still hear K band in auto mute, just at the muted volume, but I don't get any sound on K, and I'm running 3.864. Thoughts?
    Do you have the muted level set correctly? What are your settings exactly? Did you accidentally set the "mute volume zero" option?

    2. If 1a is true, then does that also apply to turning off x and pop? In other words, even if I turn them off, in A mode will they be activated?
    No. Turning off bands or POP will affect ALL modes.

    3. I've noticed that occasionally, I still get x band alerts in L mode, even when I've deactivated the band. Is the detector getting overloaded when that happens? Have you guys ever experienced a brief flash of x, when approaching automatic doors, even when you've specifically disabled x in programming mode?
    There's apparently a bug that affects the suppression of some bands that might cause them to blip up.

    5. My V1 is only two weeks old, but I'm kinda bummed about all the false alerts (which is why I'm programming.)

    To be fair, the V1 has saved my ass once already, when it picked up a Ka signal from behind from a cruiser I would have otherwise missed visually, but is the STI or Escort better for filtering out falses?
    The V1 only alerts to valid waveforms that corresponds to police-like radar. It is VERY good at rejecting signals on the same frequency range that do not behave like police radar continuous-wave. The V1's so-called "falses" are just a matter of its top-of-the-line sensitivity. It should be up to the user to discern what's likely police activity or just a nearby radar transmitter based on experience and cognitive reasoning, which is something a computer cannot do.

    Other detectors that "filter out falses" better, in my opinion, try to be too smart for their own good and run the risk of rejecting valid signals in some cases. This is a different philosophical approach (alert only when we're SURe it's valid vs alert on the side of caution and let user decide) of the V1 versus other detector makers.

    Maybe I'm just expecting too much and need to spend more time with the unit--I know some of you will definitely say that. But I'm having a little bit of buyer's remorse. The ghosting thread also resonated with my experiences. Talk me off the ledge. I want good radar coverage, but from a low maintenance unit.
    A radar detector is not a magical device yet that can tell cops from other forms of radar transmissions. That level of interpretation, until more sophisticated AI/fuzzy reasoning can be applied to such devices, is still a task of the user. I think you might be having a too idealistic expectation of what a radar detector is. I urge you to spend more time familiarizing yourself with the operation of the unit through more driving experience with it -- it will be well worth your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlame
    Venusian_Artist,read very carefully this thread,written by RacerX.Everything you need to know about rear K-band automute and how different automute settings work,he explained in detail here:

    http://www.radardetector.net/Final-V...des.-2212t.php

    This thread is a must read,for every V1 newbie.
    Great thread, thanks for the link; it should be a sticky. So it sounds like disabling E & F, will totally knock out the signal, even at eight lights. And that a disabled G doesn't produce a muted sound in l mode (something I already knew, but wasn't sure if it was just my detector.)

    Now, there was a guy in there that had my problem: no auto mute sound in l, but he got worked for saying it--I'm guessing he said it one too many times or something.

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    Default Re: Newbie Questions About Programming, etc.

    Thanks for the reply. My comments below.

    Do you have the muted level set correctly? What are your settings exactly? Did you accidentally set the "mute volume zero" option?
    I never touched 8 and A, if that's what you mean. I have the mute volume itself set to 3/4 my normal volume, via dial.

    There's apparently a bug that affects the suppression of some bands that might cause them to blip up.
    Is there a thread about this? Is VR aware and working on a fix?

    Other detectors that "filter out falses" better, in my opinion, try to be too smart for their own good and run the risk of rejecting valid signals in some cases. This is a different philosophical approach (alert only when we're SURe it's valid vs alert on the side of caution and let user decide) of the V1 versus other detector makers.
    That's what I figured. Philosophically, I'm more inclined towards a "filter out the falses, so I can just drive without getting ambushed" mentality. I guess the problem is that I love the bogey counter, direction arrows, and superior laser detection of the V1. I'd love a V1, with the GPS function of the Escort, and the Ka sensitivity of the STI. What can you do?

    I urge you to spend more time familiarizing yourself with the operation of the unit through more driving experience with it -- it will be well worth your time.
    Advice noted. I do want to make sure my unit is working properly, though, so I can use the input on modes, programming, etc. and what to expect, hence my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venusian_Artist
    4. Anybody have an e-mail address for Valentine Research? Maybe I'm just blind or something, but I can't find it on the site. Sometimes I'd rather explain issues and ask questions via e-mail, than to be rushed off the phone by somebody who clearly doesn't want to have a conversation about radar detection.
    Still looking for an answer to the above question. If anyone knows how to contact VR via e-mail, I'd appreciate a response. Thanks.

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    ValentineOne e-mail: sales@valentine1.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlame
    ValentineOne e-mail: sales@valentine1.com
    Toll free number: 1-800-331-3030
    Phone: (513) 984-8900
    FAX: (513) 984-8976
    Thanks. Great forum, lots of good info from you guys.

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    Default Re: Newbie Questions About Programming, etc.

    Far be it from me to keep my own thread alive, but I just spent the last couple of days communicating with Valentine Research and here's what they had to say about my issues (note: this is my summary, not a word-for-word description.)

    1. In Logic (little l) mode with K-Band auto-muted for thirty seconds, you won't hear K-band until the thirty seconds has elapsed. I was confused about this, as I assumed that it would still play at the muted volume during that thirty second duration.

    2. When X band is disabled, you'll still sometimes get brief X alerts if the detector is overloaded. I will sometimes encounter them at shopping malls near automatic doors.

    This is just a follow-up, in case anybody encounters the same things or has similar questions.

    As an aside, I leaned on them about when they would release an upgrade for the V1 that makes it undetectable to Spectre III RDD. They confirmed they are working on it, and that they don't think they'll need to change the housing of the unit to pull it off. They would give me no additional info.

 

 

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