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  1. #11
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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    X2......Having been a Bel fan for the last 20 years I have no problem in saying the arrows are the most useful feature that I have used to date. Absolutely indispensable to put it lightly, and more than enough to pull me from Bel permanently.

    I will be curious to see the changes in opinion if this patent runs out and Belscort incorporates it. My guess is that then, the arrows will have a more wide ranging appeal. Even from those that proclaim them as useless.
    The arrows are definitely useful. I don't think very many say they are useless. The question to me is a choice between the arrows vs the quiet of the 9500ix or the Spectre invisibility of the STi. That's how I see it. If we as RD consumers could have two or even all three of these three unique features, we'd be crazy not to want them.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    I hear you DJ. The point remains though that I have heard, on several occasions, the arrows being diminished by fanboy's of Belscort. I may be a V1 fan at present, but if the patent for the arrows goes bye bye for V1, I will be on the band wagon regardless of which company produces them. For my driving environment, the arrows are "the" feature.

    I don't care for the brand allegiance that exists on this board. My point is, regardless of which manufacturer produces the arrows, their importance remains...Let the arrows live, and I don't give a rat's rear end who implements them.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    I don't care for the brand allegiance that exists on this board. My point is, regardless of which manufacturer produces the arrows, their importance remains...Let the arrows live, and I don't give a rat's rear end who implements them.
    Word.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    yeah, if Belscort came out with a detector with the GPS feature, arrows, and V1 laser sensitivity, I'd be all over it. I like my V1 and would like to stay a valentine user, but that doesn't mean that I will over look a better detector to be brand loyal. Being loyal to a brand means the brand bieng loyal to you, the end user. That means keeping up with the current market and technology. They'd be crazy to think that people are gonna stay with them after the competition has passed them by.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    I simply will find it amusing to watch the arrow detractors praise them if and when they show up on another brand. That's what I am waiting to see.

    I would love to throw up a Bel again, but the arrows are far to critical a feature for me with my driving environment. The arrows plain and simply eliminate useless braking. I fail to understand those who down play the arrows by stating they slow for every alert so the arrows are useless. Why brake constantly when you know right then and there if the source is behind you? Speed up? of course not, but pile on the brakes for every alert? No need for that with the tactical awareness that directional arrows provide. In the city they are still effective, even with falses. On the highway, I personally could not do without them.

    Hopefully Valentine has something coming down the pike. If they keep up, I'll stick with them, if not, bring on the arrow packing Bel.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    I simply will find it amusing to watch the arrow detractors praise them if and when they show up on another brand. That's what I am waiting to see.
    I'm not an arrow detractor, but I do not think they are near as important to me as Truelock. I just feel that the V1 is basically unuseable where I live, because of the constant falsing, arrows or not. The only place I use my V1 is on the open highway or occasionally when I travel. It's just too noisy and the girlfriend absolutely hates it. Her favorite phrase is, "What's all the drama about"?

    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    I would love to throw up a Bel again, but the arrows are far to critical a feature for me with my driving environment. The arrows plain and simply eliminate useless braking.
    I don't understand this statement. If I get a weak alert on any of my RDs, I don't jam on the brakes, arrows or not. I don't understand how the arrows change that.
    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    I fail to understand those who down play the arrows by stating they slow for every alert so the arrows are useless. Why brake constantly when you know right then and there if the source is behind you? Speed up? of course not, but pile on the brakes for every alert? No need for that with the tactical awareness that directional arrows provide.
    The arrows are absolutely not useless, they are actually quite useful. This doesn't necesarilly save tickets though. I haven't had a radar ticket in years and the one I did have while using a RD was I/O with no warning. What I needed there was extra sensitivity. I rarely use my V1, yet I have no recent radar tickets and I never pile on the brakes for a weak alert, just as you don't. Usually, in a matter of 10-15 seconds, I can determine whether the alert is coming from behind or in front, just from experience. Would the arrows be nice? Hell yeah, but I don't find them necessary. There are many, many Belscort RD users on here with similar radar clean driving records.
    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    In the city they are still effective, even with falses. On the highway, I personally could not do without them.
    You did without them for years, quite effectively I assume, using your Bel Vector RDs. I consider the arrows a luxury item.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordV View Post
    Hopefully Valentine has something coming down the pike. If they keep up, I'll stick with them, if not, bring on the arrow packing Bel.
    2011 probably.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    You remind me of Obama and the surge, yes the surge worked but he will not admit it with out alot of other crap thrown in....the arrows work on the hwy and yes they can save you from a ticket...maybe not evertime but once in while they will give you the edge that you need!!price less!!

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore View Post
    You remind me of Obama and the surge, yes the surge worked but he will not admit it with out alot of other crap thrown in....the arrows work on the hwy and yes they can save you from a ticket...maybe not evertime but once in while they will give you the edge that you need!!price less!!

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    I use my 9500i only when I am driving in the city. The main reason I use the V1 when I am not in the city is that it is more sensitive than my 9500i not because of the arrows. I love the arrows and they make it easier to locate the cop, but I have had instances where the V1 has alerted ahead of me Ka and I never have been able to locate the source. I love both detectors, but there are situations where each have strengths and weaknesses. If cobra somehow came out with a detector more sensitive than my V1 and would not false all the time in the middle of nowhere I would use it instead of the V1 on the highways even though cobra will never be able to do such a thing.

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    Default Re: For those who think arrows don't matter...

    ROFL@Osama

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