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    Default V-1 and RX-65 and falsing

    For the past 3 days I have been running the 65 and V-1 together. (yes I know this can cause problems but they get along well for now)

    I can say this. The V-1 3.825 is much quieter than the RX-65 on falses. 85% of the time the RX-65 went off on falses before the V-1 did. I did make some videos of this but it's easier to put into words. Now the v-1 did alert to the false but the RX-65 picked it up first.

    Now for rear falsing there is no comparison the V-1 will just false a lot more. But that is expected with the rear antenna. I am sure I am not telling anyone something they didn't know already. But if you didn't well now I guess you do. I will try to run some x-50 stuff in a few weeks.

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    yeah mate thats something ive been trying to get on the table for sometime dude but the bell heads will not a bar of it facts are facts. Also i do very much like the results of the gol thing you guys did good work.its funny how the V1 did better in your tests than roys. what the hells going on eh? Is it my one eyed view that the V1 is still the best dam detector money can buy or what. Also check this out people Jim the man of mans posted this doctor what do you think of this?

    Guys this a fact the rx65 will make the V1 "J" alret when both are detecting the same radar ... at the same time
    Sir Jim wrote...

    It is difficult to speculate about what -exactly- is going on, however that does sound very plausible (and it might not just be from the "evil little unidens" either!). Consider this:

    If I turn on both the V1 and the RX-65 (City loX or NoX)and leave them sit on the table powered up, they both remain quiet, in other words the RX-65 doesn't cause any alerts on the V1. However, if I hit them with K-band radar, I can make the RX-65 cause a "J" alert on the V1, and I can do this pretty consistently. This does not happen with only the V1 powered on. So, when another detector detects police radar and "locks on" to the signal, it is possible that at the same time it is detecting, it is also emitting interfering frequencies that it didn't when it was NOT detecting radar, thus causing the "J" alert on the Valentine. Just an educated guess though


    Just to stir things up some complete mono cell posted the other day something about " How do I get my V1 to function like Escort 8500?" why the hell would some mono cell post that one in the V1 forum? and then they get upset when i give them hell WTF. Whos this guy does he work for Roy? :roll: or he wants to have pizza together with him or something (pull your head out)

    REAL WORLD mate thats what its about not some tin shed shop that gets people who love detectors to do there dirty work for them over the net for free. its a joke you guys are being taken for a ride " How do I get my V1 to function like Escort 8500?" indeed what a complete penis.
    Sorry to crash on your thread dude i know im going on like a b^%&* but its another dog balls.
    Anyway im sure some do good will back street it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghz1
    yeah mate thats something ive been trying to get on the table for sometime dude but the bell heads will not a bar of it facts are facts. Also i do very much like the results of the gol thing you guys did good work.its funny how the V1 did better in your tests than roys. what the hells going on eh? Is it my one eyed view that the V1 is still the best dam detector money can buy or what. Also check this out people Jim the man of mans posted this doctor what do you think of this?

    Guys this a fact the rx65 will make the V1 "J" alret when both are detecting the same radar ... at the same time
    Sir Jim wrote...

    It is difficult to speculate about what -exactly- is going on, however that does sound very plausible (and it might not just be from the "evil little unidens" either!). Consider this:

    If I turn on both the V1 and the RX-65 (City loX or NoX)and leave them sit on the table powered up, they both remain quiet, in other words the RX-65 doesn't cause any alerts on the V1. However, if I hit them with K-band radar, I can make the RX-65 cause a "J" alert on the V1, and I can do this pretty consistently. This does not happen with only the V1 powered on. So, when another detector detects police radar and "locks on" to the signal, it is possible that at the same time it is detecting, it is also emitting interfering frequencies that it didn't when it was NOT detecting radar, thus causing the "J" alert on the Valentine. Just an educated guess though


    Just to stir things up some complete mono cell posted the other day something about " How do I get my V1 to function like Escort 8500?" why the hell would some mono cell post that one in the V1 forum? and then they get upset when i give them hell WTF. Whos this guy does he work for Roy? :roll: or he wants to have pizza together with him or something (pull your head out)

    REAL WORLD mate thats what its about not some tin shed shop that gets people who love detector to do a there dirty work for them over the net for free. its a joke you guys are being taken for a ride " How do I get my V1 to function like Escort 8500?" indeed what a complete penis.
    Sorry to crash on your thread dude i know im going on like a b^%&* but its another dog balls.
    Anyway im sure some do good will back street it.
    Kind Regards GHZ1

    I like that you mention the J alert. Believe it or not when I was getting a Ka hit the other day at fairly close range the V-1 Jade out the ka. I turn on the camera to record this but then though wait a minute I have the rx-65 on. I turned the rx-65 off and I didn't get a J. Now after that I plugged the Rx-65 back in and I never got a j again and I stayed parked behind the Ka band for about 3 min. Then I drove through the parking lot and never had any problems. So, yeah I think they do kinda interfere with each other when they are picking up something but other wise seem to do find with each other.

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    Running two detectors in the same car will cause interference between the two. For example, the V1 Jing out an alert with an RX65 on nearby. The V1 sees the LO harmonics from the RX65 along with the Ka radar, and thinks it's noise from a junk detector.

    I've tried running my V1 and X50 together, and when I do, the V1 shows an X false, and doesn't pick up K as readily. In a test I did today with the X50 and V1 on together, the X50 picked up a K false that the V1 missed entirely. With the X50 off, the V1 picked up the K false.
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    so would you say that this is the "J" problem or just part of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghz1
    so would you say that this is the "J" problem or just part of it?
    Well, it wouldn't be THE "J" problem, but it would be the "J" problem that happens when there's also a RX65 in the car.
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    or a rx65 in on coming traffic right

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    It would be more interesting to seperate the 65 and v1 by about 20feet and test it with radar to see if the v1 still "j" out. This would be a more true life picture of being on the highway while driving with other Bell units durring a radar experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itisjustme
    It would be more interesting to seperate the 65 and v1 by about 20feet and test it with radar to see if the v1 still "j" out. This would be a more true life picture of being on the highway while driving with other Bell units durring a radar experience.
    That is an interesting theory, and it would seem to fit the pattern. Let's take what we know so far:

    1. (per Jimbonzzz) V1 detects Junk detectors by looking for LO harmonics known to be produced by detectors. When these harmonics accompany a Ka band signal, V1 Junks out the signal.

    2. Some people have reported the latest (3.825) V1s Junking out real Ka band threats on occasion.

    3. VR as yet can't reproduce the problem mentioned in #2, in the lab.

    4. Outrun has observed the V1 Junking out real Ka threats when running a RX65 in the same car.

    So here's my theory: perhaps the J-ing out of real threats occurs when there's a real threat AND another RD nearby. If the V1 sees the harmonics from the other detector but doesn't see the detector's Ka band emission, it could erroneously associate the harmonics with the real Ka bogey and J it out.

    So that would make an interesting test. Put the RX65 in one car, the V1 in another, place the cars a distance apart comparable to real traffic, shoot them with a Ka band gun and see what happens. Also, rinse and repeat using a Crapra or Uniden instead of a RX65, since I would guess a RX65 20 feet away wouldn't produce enough emissions to cause a problem, even if it does when it's in the same car as the V1.
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    Now your talken thats what i think been happening . my 8.25 j'd out 3 times now one with real cop ka and 2 with a uniden in another car pls could some body try this out and post it. :shock:

 

 

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