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    Default Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    I was thinking should I upgrade, I mean is it wortth it, how much do ya thing would it cost me. Would I get any perfomance change.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    It's only worth it if the ghosting is so bad you can't take it any longer. It'd cost $139. You'd see no performance difference.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Check out the 2009 Results here Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER

    The 3.864 was wayyyy behing the new 3.872, look at the KA band Tests.......

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    the 3.864 is just as good as the 3.872 in my eyes, the only thing the GOL tests showed is manufacturing variance. When I sent my 3.864 in for testing mike the tech called me and told me he did not even want to touch it because it is that good and anything he did to it would make it worse. So unless you are having problems with the 3.864 I would say keep it.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Quote Originally Posted by languy99 View Post
    the 3.864 is just as good as the 3.872 in my eyes, the only thing the GOL tests showed is manufacturing variance. When I sent my 3.864 in for testing mike the tech called me and told me he did not even want to touch it because it is that good and anything he did to it would make it worse. So unless you are having problems with the 3.864 I would say keep it.
    Same here... The tech told me it was just a waste of money...
    the only reason to upgrade would be ghosting...

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar_169 View Post
    Check out the 2009 Results here Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER

    The 3.864 was wayyyy behing the new 3.872, look at the KA band Tests.......
    Were the other V1s recently tuned?

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar_169 View Post
    Check out the 2009 Results here Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER

    The 3.864 was wayyyy behing the new 3.872, look at the KA band Tests.......
    You can't use the 864 that was used in that test as a reference. It was out of tune at the time.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    I guess it depends on what info you want to belive. If I were you I'd try to find someones 3.872 and do a comparison. Many here don't want to admit it, but its my opinion that the 3.864 is bad in the range department. Mine won't beat a M4 Escort (my early 3.813 testings looking more promising). Based on my 3.864 (which does have a ghosting problem), I'd agree with the GOL tests. I think mine may be a little better than what was posted there, but not any better than my 9500ix was and it is defeninately well behind my STI Driver (haven't had a chance to do much with Redline yet).

    Before everyone yells about mine being out of tune, I sent it in in August to adress the ghosting issue and was told by VR that they couldn't get it to ghost and didn't want to do much because "you're detector has better than normal sensitivity, so I'm afraid if I do much we may loose some of it". I think this is the standard line to make the customer feel good.

    So although I can't say I'd do the upgrade, I'd definately recomend doing some comparisions to see, as I think it may very well be worth while.

    I'm still debating what detectors I'll be keeping (9500ci and a V1 for sure, STI probably going, Redline vs V1 is the real battle, and if Redline wins its a matter of which V1 goes with the ci)

    If I do decide to keep both V1's, I'm planning on ordering a new V1 to compare to the 3.864 and then I'll sell one of my V1's which I think will be cheaper than the upgrade. Sad part is I think I can get more money out of my 3.813 than I can the 3.864.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Ka guard was off in the GOL test.

    My 864 alerts much sooner when Ka guard is off.

    The problem is, it seems to alert to everything electronic in a 3 mile radius when Ka guard is off.

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    Default Re: Is it worth to upgrade from 3.864-3.872

    Quote Originally Posted by Z1NONLY View Post
    Ka guard was off in the GOL test.

    My 864 alerts much sooner when Ka guard is off.

    The problem is, it seems to alert to everything electronic in a 3 mile radius when Ka guard is off.
    On the 3.872 Ka was off, not the 3.813. I agree Ka off is unuseable for most and that result should be ignored, but the 3.813 results compared to the 3.864 says something.

    I also should add that it doesn't necisarily mean that all 3.864's are bad. I do feel its safe to say that the GOL 3.864 tested and my personal 3.864 aren't very impressive. That said, I have a guess that its very possible that the 3.864 may have more variance from one unit to the next than the other software revisions.

    My 3.864 has the ghosting problem, and I've wondered if it didn't have it in intial build testing and the easiest fix was to reduce sensitivity to make the ghosting less noticible. We'll never know if that's true or not, but its one of many therory's I've had.

 

 

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