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    Default Laser can False on RED NEON!!!

    I have heard this from somepeople that Laser will false on neon, somepeople do nor believe this. Well I have proof. http://www.valentine1.com/lab/Previously7.asp
    also if you PM Outrun we has a video on it
    http://www.jasonsvideoproductions.co...b/Image153.jpg





    This link is for educational purposes only

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    A well known fact of life. Never knew anyone disputed it happens. More often with the Gen 2 1.8 V1 laser detection than with the older 1.7 units.

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    mike said this

    The Z8 actually has neon (not LED) lighting. AFAIK, there have never been any reported problems with LED tail lamp or CHMSL interference with a V1. LED lamp photon output is very slow rise-time (~100 microseconds) compared to a laser-gun pulse (a few nanoseconds) and is easily filtered out in V1's processing circuitry. And, more importantly, the spectral content of visible LED lamps has zero near-infrared spectral content. No near-IR, ... no interference! For these reasons, LED lamps are my favorite new technology for stop, turn and CHMSL lighting.

    The neon interference comes from the fact that neon plasma has light emmission spectral output in the near-infrared region as well as in visible wavelengths. Red color filters for neon tubes readily pass the near-infrared output as well as the red visible light. Yellow colored neon lamps have a phosphor coating that blocks the near-IR output from them.

    And, the typical ignition source for neon is some sort of high-voltage pulsating power supply. The rise-time of the photon output is very fast (~10 nanoseconds), which easily mimics a laser-gun pulse.

    "Neon, featured on the upcoming BMW Z8, competes with LED as another alternative for rear signal lighting, as well as front-of-vehicle applications. Recently, there has been interest among designers in neon CHMSLs, too. Like HID, neon uses gas and does not involve a filament. Lighting makers say it is unaffected by harsh temperatures, shock, or vibration.

    Neon comes in tubes that are bendable and allow for design flexibility, and has a faster rise-time than traditional rear lights. It lends itself to applications in which a long, smooth strip is desired.

    "Neon lights 200 milliseconds faster than incandescents, giving a following driver 24 feet of extra stopping distance at 65 mph," claims Tom Schottes, global market manager for automotive lighting at Osram Sylvania.

    However, today's neon usage is minimal due to extremely high cost. Another downfall of neon is that like HID, it needs an electric ballast.

    Federal-Mogul has designed a miniature neon capsule that glows like neon, but uses a different means of energizing gas in the capsule.

    "We have been working on neon technology for many years," Jiao says. "There is no committed technology because system cost is not acceptable in a larger scale." He adds that neon is not going to be as widely, or as quickly accepted as LEDs."

    So, LED use is growing and that is a good thing. Neon use seems to be waning, but it is already on the road in annoying numbers. We don't have a fix today, but it may be possible in the next few years.

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    yeah it deinatley does false on red neons as well as blue and few other colours i think. IN my city area, there are loadsssssss of neons. Hong kong is famous for neon lights, so my V1 drives me insane at night in the city.

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    dilip, you could always buy a jammer, and turn your v1's laser off.

    It'd give you way better protection having a jammer as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethy
    and turn your v1's laser off.

    No way! Until we get JTG 100% of the time jammers with no long range punch through this would not be an option for me.

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    No.....i can't do that. Jammers are totally illegal here, i'd get screwed for it and i just bought a V1, i can't afford a jammer now. I dont want to take the chance of the police seeing the E04 reading on their LTI's. With veil/lasershiled its ok coz they wont get any reading.

    My only option is to turn the volume of the v1 down when in the city. It only happens at night when the neon signs are all on. I should post u a picture of how many neon signs there are here :shock:

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    i guess hong kong is against radar and laser

 

 

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