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    New on V1 site is a promo with Mike Flying a plane it shows a video of programing the feature on units ending in 1179 and above. Mine is 1188 finally ahead of the curve for a change so check your #. Recent tests have stated it delays K by 1.5 seconds but it sure quiets it down. Running YaV1 it still detected leo in a pile of falses (grocery store, gas station, Lowe's)

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    I thought you meant flying literally.... Lol

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    The one thing I would like to see not only with the V1, but with Escort/Bel products is the ability to enable and disable TSR (for filtering out these obnoxious systems) like one would do with city modes. There are certainly times on the roadways where one doesn't encounter these things much. So being able to quickly disable and enable the filter would be great instead of relying to go into programming modes to do it.

    With respect to their update website:


    OK, here's my understanding from the horse's mouth.

    The "new" Junk-K fighter is just an update to the marketing terms to help people understand that TMF and TMF2 also reduce alerts from these nanny systems. No new features or version numbers at this time. v3.894 is the latest and TMF2 remains the only filter option for this currently.

    One thing to consider. TMF2 was really designed for those that drive vehicle that have the rear K-band system always on. If another K-band signal is detected that is very close in freq to your rear transponder it is possible that the detector will then continually alert to the rear emissions continually requiring a power off to eliminate it.

    If you don't drive with such a vehicle, TMF should be sufficient and I believe TMF doesn't quite give you the hit in delay as TMF2 does. So, I believe there is a case to be made to keep the version where only TMF is incorporated. Too bad that they don't give you the ability to toggle between TMF(1) and TMF2 in the new units. I think that would be a nice feature. Whistler gives you the ability to tweak the "delays" in their models. It would be nice if VR did the same.

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    Default Re: Junk K =TMF2

    Setting up profiles similar to sweep sets can be performed with YaV1 one profile TMF2 on the other TMF2 off. So it is a little distracting but much simpler to perform when driving.

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    TM2 was a flash in history, it does not work on all autos, not good. I agree with VG, is it just a promo (name) move or something fix'n to be added again shortly? Now they can use software revs to add/change this filtering delay with algs if needed (how about a 3 second delay in the future if the ramp-up is a certain way?). To call it a "TMF and junk K fighter", ok for the future........ Another thing, MV is (was) getting away from the V1's motto, but maybe he got tired of the false alarms like we have? Did MV give in or convert over to the Escort's thinking? The other thread has some truth in it, "the V1 is useless" in certain areas with K POP and K I/O where I drive......
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    Default Re: Junk K =TMF2

    TM2/TMF ect is basically just like Escorts TSR, it simply adds filtering to K band. It seems VR is jumping on Escorts TSR explanation for false filtering of these alerts. And though it works well hopefully there will be a better solution.

    My 3.893 with no K band filtering and just 3 sec mute works perfect, and while using YaV1 with the overlay i get all the info i need.

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    I think you're all wrong. TMF2 and Junk-K are two different animals. The TMF1 and 2 were designed to eliminate or reduce stationary K falses, like door openers and traffic monitor units that utilize K band radar. The Junk-K is for moving K band falsing from YOUR or others Blind Spot Monitoring systems or lane departure and cross traffic warnings. You see that in Audis and GMs for example. For example, if your car has a BSM system, the Junk-K is designed to reduce or eliminate that false through a firmware algorithm.

    Remember, we got TMF1 about three years ago and 2 is and advancement of that. Junk-K is more for moving K falses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointerCone View Post
    I think you're all wrong. TMF2 and Junk-K are two different animals. The TMF1 and 2 were designed to eliminate or reduce stationary K falses, like door openers and traffic monitor units that utilize K band radar. The Junk-K is for moving K band falsing from YOUR or others Blind Spot Monitoring systems or lane departure and cross traffic warnings. You see that in Audis and GMs for example. For example, if your car has a BSM system, the Junk-K is designed to reduce or eliminate that false through a firmware algorithm.

    Remember, we got TMF1 about three years ago and 2 is and advancement of that. Junk-K is more for moving K falses.
    Let the testing begin.

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    It shall as soon as I get it back Friday or Monday. Vortex is going to have at it!!

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    Default Re: Junk K =TMF2

    Quote Originally Posted by PointerCone View Post
    I think you're all wrong. TMF2 and Junk-K are two different animals. The TMF1 and 2 were designed to eliminate or reduce stationary K falses, like door openers and traffic monitor units that utilize K band radar. The Junk-K is for moving K band falsing from YOUR or others Blind Spot Monitoring systems or lane departure and cross traffic warnings. You see that in Audis and GMs for example. For example, if your car has a BSM system, the Junk-K is designed to reduce or eliminate that false through a firmware algorithm.

    Remember, we got TMF1 about three years ago and 2 is and advancement of that. Junk-K is more for moving K falses.
    Not quite, TMF2 was simply renamed to Junk-K falsing, there is no difference at all in systems with the old name of TMF2 and the new name of Junk-K.

 

 

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