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Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
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Originally Posted by The Veil Guy
lucky225,
Yeah...real surprise...And, we have the same thing in PA, except ours even have a reflective "metallic" component to them...they're definitely on their way to gettin' Veiled (although since they are on the inside of the windscreen, I am probably going to have to get at them before they're applied by our vehicle inspector--what that will do to their adhesive material is yet to be seen).
More vids coming...
Veil Guy
ours are also on the inside, I figured it'd be just better to veil the windsheild it's self, that way when the stickers get changed out, there's still veil on the windshield protecting even the new stickers =)
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'04 Bonneville SE
Whistler XTR-695 Xband off, KA RSID/LSID, Highway mode
Roadmaster VR-3 VRVD640G In-dash DVD/GPS system with Speed/Redlight Camera alerts
Radioshack Pro-97 Triple-Trunk analog scanner
Previous countermeasures:
Passport SRX 2 front, 1 back plate (Fried, sent to KustomEagle)
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
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Originally Posted by The Veil Guy
...Gave that some thought.
If you try it, can you send some PICs on how it looks?
Veil Guy
When I get $80 to burn I'll let you know, for now other countermeasures are my priority and I'm kinda strapped for cash. But I don't care about veiling a small corner of the windshield, so I'll def. try it out when I get the $$ and time. Also, I'm kinda wondering about colors of plates vs. IR. Texas just started issuing all kinds of weird plates on myplates.com -- Some are black with white letters, I was thinking maybe a black plate with only 2 white letters would help out, what you think?
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'04 Bonneville SE
Whistler XTR-695 Xband off, KA RSID/LSID, Highway mode
Roadmaster VR-3 VRVD640G In-dash DVD/GPS system with Speed/Redlight Camera alerts
Radioshack Pro-97 Triple-Trunk analog scanner
Previous countermeasures:
Passport SRX 2 front, 1 back plate (Fried, sent to KustomEagle)
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
Couple of things:
I originally thought a black-background plate with white letters was pretty stealth (and perhaps it is, relative to a fully retro-reflective white background-plate) but ultimately (as you will see in the last video of the series: part viii) the results were pretty surprising.
Given a choice, though, I would still select a black-background plate, at any rate.
The other surprise was how poorly the 3M tape actually appeared to show in the IR...which was surprising to both of us.
While it may be sufficient to some degree, it is clear the Ontrack Lasershield/Veil combination provides significantly better performance.
Therefore what ever plate you decide to use, I would at least select something like the Ontrack lasershield or an Ontrack Blur+Veil combo to get the best of all worlds.
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Veil Guy
Couple of things:
I originally thought a black-background plate with white letters was pretty stealth (and perhaps it is, relative to a fully retro-reflective white background-plate) but ultimately (as you will see in the last video of the series: part viii) the results were pretty surprising.
Given a choice, thought, I would still select a black-background plate, at any rate.
The other surprise was how poorly the 3M tape actually appeared to show in the IR...which was surprising to both of us.
While it may be sufficient to some degree, it is clear the Ontrack Lasershield/Veil combination provides significantly better performance.
Therefore what ever plate you decide to use, I would at least select something like the Ontrack lasershield or an Ontrack Blur+Veil combo to get the best of all worlds.
Good luck.
Veil Guy
Oh definitely, these new black plates[and others on myplates.com] are like $125 for 1 year (supposed to be cheaper if you pay 10 years of renewal fees up front for $500+ where it comes out to like $40/yr or some crap), So obviously I'd go with veil before getting one of these plates anyways. I was just wondering how reflective they would be vs. a white reflectorized plate, as both plates ARE reflectorized. Another thing I was thinking is if you had a black plate you could use those black smoke covers that are illegal because they 'change the color' of the plate -- since the plate is black, it wouldn't change the color and therefor be legal, in theory. (unless the cop trys to say the white numbers is now grey or some B.S.)
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'04 Bonneville SE
Whistler XTR-695 Xband off, KA RSID/LSID, Highway mode
Roadmaster VR-3 VRVD640G In-dash DVD/GPS system with Speed/Redlight Camera alerts
Radioshack Pro-97 Triple-Trunk analog scanner
Previous countermeasures:
Passport SRX 2 front, 1 back plate (Fried, sent to KustomEagle)
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
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Originally Posted by The Veil Guy
Some interesting thoughts.
Be aware that conventional smokey plate covers are likely to have zero effect in the IR range as they only appear "dark" in the VIS region.
Veil Guy
Word, can't wait for more videos of the uber milspec =)
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'04 Bonneville SE
Whistler XTR-695 Xband off, KA RSID/LSID, Highway mode
Roadmaster VR-3 VRVD640G In-dash DVD/GPS system with Speed/Redlight Camera alerts
Radioshack Pro-97 Triple-Trunk analog scanner
Previous countermeasures:
Passport SRX 2 front, 1 back plate (Fried, sent to KustomEagle)
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
Just watched vids 4-6!! Wow, I wish I had milspec IR hotspot identifier =)
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'04 Bonneville SE
Whistler XTR-695 Xband off, KA RSID/LSID, Highway mode
Roadmaster VR-3 VRVD640G In-dash DVD/GPS system with Speed/Redlight Camera alerts
Radioshack Pro-97 Triple-Trunk analog scanner
Previous countermeasures:
Passport SRX 2 front, 1 back plate (Fried, sent to KustomEagle)
Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4
LOL! So all of happya$$'s jammer heads are actually increasing his lidar reflectivity?
Priceless.
Seriously though, how 'bout the car seats? They looked pretty bright under IR. Obviously you can't veil them, but maybe some IR absorbing seat covers? Of course then you'd need some sort of IR absorbing clothing as well...
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Re: Identifying and Eliminating Hotspots in the IR with Veil G4 
have to do this later! 
