Veil thickness

Stealthy · 04-27-2009 01:43 PM

Hi,
Here are two pictures of headlights with 6 very light coats of veil from a hobby spray-gun. I haven't caught up with anyone with a LIDAR gun yet and testing with 940nm LED's and a camera proved futile as did testing with a flash, all things considered I would say using those two methods of testing gave no indication the veil did anything.

One headlight is in the shade and the other is in direct sunlight.

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Any thoughts on going darker?

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**Cherokee Driver** · 04-27-2009 04:25 PM

What are you trying to accomplish? First of all police lidar is 904/905Nm and not 940Nm. All you wanting to accomplish is reduce the amount of lidar reflection on your lights.

Stealthy · 04-27-2009 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cherokee Driver

What are you trying to accomplish? First of all police lidar is 904/905Nm and not 940Nm. All you wanting to accomplish is reduce the amount of lidar reflection on your lights.

While I could have reduced the current to the LED to bring it down to approximately 904nm I didn't bother, if you think that would yield a better result I can try it. There isn't an electronics store with laser diodes here to choose from or I would use them the LED's are a real pain to test with.

On a side note I Sprayed my Number plate covers lying flat on the ground and by comparison they turned out really bad, think I'll strip them down and suspend them vertically to respray.

**Stealth Stalker** · 04-28-2009 12:37 AM

Wow, that looks very nice!

Unfortunately, all the Veil advice that I have seen from Veil Guy come from a brush-on perspective. Consequently, we don't yet have any real way to quantify spray-on applications. And every sprayer applying differently, there's not much way to standardise it like we can with the brushes. So, whether or not you have enough on there to do the job is hard to say.

That said, Veil Guy has said that it only takes a single brush-on coat to achieve the intended benefits. Perhaps if you could brush paint one of your plate covers, as shown in the Veil Guy videos, let it dry, then compare that darkness to that of your headlights, you'll have some idea of the equivalent.

Veil Guy, would it be possible to produce some videos illustrating spray-on Veil application, and giving advice on the process, since this has become such a popular option?

**FoolishOne** · 04-28-2009 01:07 AM

You put 6 coats of VEIL on that? Six as in the number after 5, or VI?

Stealthy · 04-28-2009 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by FoolishOne

You put 6 coats of VEIL on that? Six as in the number after 5, or VI?

yep, six coats, it's a pretty wicked spray gun, creates the finest of fine mists.

**Matt** · 04-28-2009 09:05 AM

I used and HVLP spray gun and it puts out a nice even coat, but not as dark as a single bruch stroke. Put two coats on and uses alot of veil product because of overspray. Slight problem though, came off in a car wash two weeks later. I am hoping that it was my install. I have enough left to try one more time. I don't like to see hundred dollar bills grow wings and fly away!!!!

**FoolishOne** · 04-28-2009 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stealthy

y...creates the finest of fine mists.

It must because it looks BRAND new!

**Stealth Stalker** · 04-28-2009 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

Put two coats on and uses alot of veil product because of overspray. Slight problem though, came off in a car wash two weeks later. I am hoping that it was my install. I have enough left to try one more time.

Wait... two coats on two headlights used half a friggin jar of Veil? That's an insane amount of overspray!

**Matt** · 04-28-2009 10:17 PM

Brushed on fog lights and they are holding up. There is enough to do two more coats on the headlights. The Veil is very thin. It runs down the lights alot more than when using a brush, but ther is no visible brush strokes.. I can deal with overspray if the finished product looks good and last. Two coats, sprayed on is fairly dark. It is alot of product used..