How is Veil legal???

**michaelalex17** · 06-28-2011 10:59 PM

sorry if this question has been ansesered before but i have two questions on Veil being legal.

1. it is illegal to have a tint or a coating of any kind on your headlights. FMVSS states:

"S7.8.5 When activated in a steady-burning state, headlamps shall not
have any styling ornament or other feature, such as a translucent cover
or grill, in front of the lens.

NHTSA legal interpretations have held that tint, paint, die or similar products are considered illegal styling ornaments.

2. having tinted covers on license plates is also illegal. so coating a clear cover with veil will make it tinted and illegal.

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**The Veil Guy** · 06-29-2011 01:26 AM

Is "speeding" legal? And active laser jammers are specifically being outlawed in an increasing number of states and are easily detected (visually).

If Veil is not over applied, then its effect visually should be minimal. Vehicles should pass inspection without a hitch.

**pilot_corey** · 06-29-2011 08:54 AM

I have recently seen a ton (at least 3+ a day) cars driving around with deeply tinted license plate covers, obviously for aesthetic purposes as the plastic looks very reflective. They are usually tinted to the point that you can hardly read the numbers directly behind the car. The cars typically have huge rims and 5% tint, but I don't see the cops hassling these people which is really surprising.

I have lived other places that the cops will throw a fit if you tint headlights or taillights, and rightfully so. I get really pissed when some guy is driving around with tinted taillights and you don't see that he is braking until you are almost on his bumper. Its dangerous and they should be ticketed heavily for that. Safety should come before looks.

Though VEIL can be applied to be ALMOST invisible (you have to be really good, have the right equipment, and the planets have to be aligned perfectly), in most cases you can see a significant "tint" to the areas the product was applied. Just look at the pictures people post as evidence. I like the idea of VEIL, but I will not apply it to my car as I don't want the extra attention from police.

**The Veil Guy** · 06-29-2011 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by pilot_corey

I have recently seen a ton (at least 3+ a day) cars driving around with deeply tinted license plate covers, obviously for aesthetic purposes as the plastic looks very reflective. They are usually tinted to the point that you can hardly read the numbers directly behind the car. The cars typically have huge rims and 5% tint, but I don't see the cops hassling these people which is really surprising.

I have lived other places that the cops will throw a fit if you tint headlights or taillights, and rightfully so. I get really pissed when some guy is driving around with tinted taillights and you don't see that he is braking until you are almost on his bumper. Its dangerous and they should be ticketed heavily for that. Safety should come before looks.

Though VEIL can be applied to be ALMOST invisible (you have to be really good, have the right equipment, and the planets have to be aligned perfectly), in most cases you can see a significant "tint" to the areas the product was applied. Just look at the pictures people post as evidence. I like the idea of VEIL, but I will not apply it to my car as I don't want the extra attention from police.

Some of those plate covers are extremely noticeable, to be sure. If applied properly, Veil should give the appearance of a pleasant blueish/violetish gray appearance, something that looks a little like an HID light.

If Veil is NOT over applied (as some do, unfortunately, it should be barely noticeable), especially on the taillights and reflective markers, directional indicators.

Some who have airbrushed, have appeared even better, IMO.

**WDG** · 06-29-2011 01:05 PM

And yet, it is apparently legal to drive around with all manner of goofy colored headlights? That's the way it looks around here.

Quick question: How much does your insurance go up for what would essentially be fix-it ticket? How many points with that count against your license? Would you prefer a $100 fix-it ticket with no points, or a $200 ticket with points that also costs you an additional $500 per year in insurance for the next three years? Choices... choices. Life is full of choices.

**Stealth Stalker** · 06-29-2011 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by WDG

Quick question: How much does your insurance go up for what would essentially be fix-it ticket? How many points with that count against your license? Would you prefer a $100 fix-it ticket with no points, or a $200 ticket with points that also costs you an additional $500 per year in insurance for the next three years?

An intentionally obscured plate is not a fix-it in Texas. It is a criminal offence. I'd rather have the speeding ticket.

**michaelalex17** · 06-29-2011 09:51 PM

what happens if you apply the veil directly on the license plate and not on a cover?

**The Veil Guy** · 06-29-2011 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by michaelalex17

what happens if you apply the veil directly on the license plate and not on a cover?

Be careful with this. Veil currently is not really designed for direct plate application, although I have done so successfully on my plates. Darker plates should do well, very light or white reflective membrane types do not. If you can not do something with your plate like with a laser shield plate cover and/or Veil and laser shield together, I would recommend (if legal, of course) to enhance your arsenal with an active jammer. But be careful there as well, as more and more states are outlawing them and they are very easily detectable by simple visual inspection.

I know of a gentleman who had his new Mazda 6 permanently confiscated (by the authorities) for having been caught using a laser jammer. Forget about a $100 ticket, how about a $30K loss (and loss of driving privileges)!

**Weeth** · 06-30-2011 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Veil Guy

I know of a gentleman who had his new Mazda 6 permanently confiscated (by the authorities) for having been caught using a laser jammer. Forget about a $100 ticket, how about a $30K loss (and loss of driving privileges)!

Holy crap! That's sucks! Where was it confiscated?

**The Veil Guy** · 06-30-2011 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Weeth

Originally Posted by The Veil Guy

I know of a gentleman who had his new Mazda 6 permanently confiscated (by the authorities) for having been caught using a laser jammer. Forget about a $100 ticket, how about a $30K loss (and loss of driving privileges)!

Holy crap! That's sucks! Where was it confiscated?

Yep, it sure does. It was HKI (Hong Kong).