LI futureproofing?

[charles charlie charles]

Now that LI is out in the wild, so to speak, is there any news as to when the update feature over the internet will happen.

Or is that unlikely to happen?


Just that whilst LPP have been outstanding in providing a free update for the 100pps issue, I am uneasy about being without protection, even for a short time.

Any news on this Ivan?

[interceptor]

buy one 4 a start m8.

[Serg]

m8 :lol:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

buy one 4 a start m8.HAHA great response to a LPP loyalist :lol:

It's like Escort heads questioning Mike Valentine

[IRCMUSA]

that is kind of funney

[Hessen]

buy one 4 a start m8.HAHA great response to a LPP loyalist :lol:

It's like Escort heads questioning Mike Valentine

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm on the floor LMFAO..........Dam Rob that's so funny.

[charles charlie charles]

LPP loyalist?

Not quite sure why being an owner of a product marks one out as a "loyalist".

I must be a loyalist of a lot of things then.

I am actually in the process of buying a quad head LI system. Why? Because it is the only system which will allow me to protect the rear of my car from being picked off again by a sneaky LEO. I have only owned an LPP for about 8 months and have been very happy with it. I will fit a quad LI system because it does what I need were as no LPP heads will fit.

As for your attitude Ivan I am surprised. I asked a civil question about whether my 810 euros will be well spent on your system as an updateable system will of course represent much better value for money in the long term. Since this is the only place I can ask that question I had no other option. A simple answer was deserved.


I have also asked questions earlier regarding whether another essential requirement of this new purchase would b satisfied. Namely that I can power a relay from the LI to cut power to my rear lights in th event of an alert.

I have no loyalty to LPP nor any other product save that if it works for me I will tell others that is so.

Some members seem to forget the failed promises of the defender 2 fiasco and only a prudent purchaser would ask simple questions first before shelling out 810 euros.

That simple question surely deserves a simple answer not a smart arse one.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

The way you are acting now is making you seem more like an LPPP-head.

Everyone would always say I am ABOUT to make the purchase.... :wink:

If research was done Ivan is working on it being possibly user updated via the computer. He is working on the current base software to run things like turn off the sun interfearance alert, the parking sensor feature, etc.

As for updates I am sure that if Ivan doesn't go the online self update route that you'll be able to send it to him and get and update.

BTWs Ivan is smart and doesn't make promises he can't keep. Or maybe he really doesn't tell people what his jammer can and will do so he won't be held to a certain standard. The practices for the defender2 were completely stupid and no one should of ever believed them. First time laser jammer company is bound to fail. Ivan has been in the business for awhile so I don't think failure is on his mind. Considering that his system does what the DS jammer said they were going to do.

Don't take this so seriously....You already got an LPP you got a jammer to cover you for now. Why not wait until the retail version is tested? :wink:

[charles charlie charles]

The way you are acting now is making you seem more like an LPPP-head.


Don't take this so seriously....You already got an LPP you got a jammer to cover you for now. Why not wait until the retail version is tested? :wink:

That's another thing I've never been called.... an LPP Head!

Considering my first post was also critical of having to send my LPP away to be updated and thus leaving me "naked" I fail to see how that makes me an LPP head. You would also know Rob that the fact I had to use 3 heads on my M class leaves me in no doubt of LPP's limitations and I have never posted comments anywhere extolling LPP's virtues nor denigrating any other retail system.

Anyways, whilst I have LPP protection to my front the very real issue for me recently was being nicked at 98mph on a motorway from behind by an LEO using a ****ty old 20/20.

I have seen the same LEO on the same 20 mile stretch of motorway several times since and I have to drive this route 2 days a week. I am therefore in very urgent need of protection to my rear.

At the end of the day my original question was asked for a very good reason. This board has already witnessed posts regarding new LIDAR threats and it would have been reassuring to know how Ivan intended to address these issues. I have no doubt he will, I just wanted to know how that was going to occur.

Some people are too quick to jump to conclusions with regards other peoples motives for posting questions and this apparent paranoia is hardly helpful.

[TSi+WRX]

Some people are too quick to jump to conclusions with regards other peoples motives for posting questions and this apparent paranoia is hardly helpful.

I think that's a *BIG* problem, if not the primary problem, in this community - and I think that it truly erodes this community greatly.

Given the past history of the community and industry, though, it is hard, unfortunately, to also *not* be so defensive.

I'd like to ask for the slate to be wiped clean, especially for the benefit of those who are entering the hobby or who are lurking and only thinking about actively joining (and with all the drama and hysteria, who, when viewing this from the outside, would ever want to join?).

Honestly, as a fellow LPP owner (and someone who is truly "independent" in this community, as a hobbyist) who has tracked charles charlie charles's "evolution," if you will - I would urge everyone here to take a step back and understand where he's coming from, and I would like to say that he is most definitely *NOT* a "LPP loyalist" or "LPP-Head" of any form.

ccc, if recall serves, arrived at the LPP decision due to the ease with which he could "locally" contact its makers - which was what swung him away from AL. He has been vocal and adamant in showing nothing but the true capabilities of the LPP -> the reason why he has three LPP heads up front, with two control-boxes, is because he openly cited that his own testing results showed that two heads were not sufficient to cover the front of his vehicle, and he also openly criticized the delay that LPP has seen in coming forward with the four-head enabled control box, which would have saved him some expense as well as technical worry. At the same time, he has also openly cited that the LPP is totally insufficient for his rear-side protection, short of a fully-devoted quad-head setup (and even then, it would need quite a bit of testing/optimization).

Most telling of all is that ccc openly criticized the LPP while owning this product, and solicited suggestions and voiced concerns on the stateside LPP Support Forum.

It saddens me to see what the state of the community is now.

[Hessen]

Please you two............. :roll:

I've witnessed the "Evolution" of both of you, what's truly sad here is that you two actually "Believe" yourselves............... :wink:

You two are part of the reason I will no longer go the the "Other" forum, ( the major one is that BEEP Kris Shortland).
Please leave your "Agendas" there.

Thank You

It was a joke Guys, lighten up Ladies........... :roll:

[charles charlie charles]

I would be interested to hear what "agenda" you seem to think I have.

We both know what was said on the other forum and the context in which they were said so there is no need to repeat ourselves here.


Sufficed to say that those exchanges would now appear to be setting your agenda in this post.


As for me I care not for LPP, KMPH or LI. I just wanted to know the state of affairs with regards LI upgradeability. Why? Because I'm about to shell out 810 euros for an item that cannot be returned to a shop if it doesnt do what I need it to.


If that is an "agenda" then so be it.

[noTe]

buy one 4 a start m8.

I got mine today and it looks like it's upgradeable.

[interceptor]

LPP loyalist?

Not quite sure why being an owner of a product marks one out as a "loyalist".

I must be a loyalist of a lot of things then.

I am actually in the process of buying a quad head LI system. Why? Because it is the only system which will allow me to protect the rear of my car from being picked off again by a sneaky LEO. I have only owned an LPP for about 8 months and have been very happy with it. I will fit a quad LI system because it does what I need were as no LPP heads will fit.

As for your attitude Ivan I am surprised. I asked a civil question about whether my 810 euros will be well spent on your system as an updateable system will of course represent much better value for money in the long term. Since this is the only place I can ask that question I had no other option. A simple answer was deserved.


I have also asked questions earlier regarding whether another essential requirement of this new purchase would b satisfied. Namely that I can power a relay from the LI to cut power to my rear lights in th event of an alert.

I have no loyalty to LPP nor any other product save that if it works for me I will tell others that is so.

Some members seem to forget the failed promises of the defender 2 fiasco and only a prudent purchaser would ask simple questions first before shelling out 810 euros.

That simple question surely deserves a simple answer not a smart arse one.


dont be suprised...

two days ago i read some of your posts on "other" forum...
i dont like doubleface people... that is all...

[TSi+WRX]

^ Please fill me in on what such posts may be - although I do remember that there were doubts cast by many (myself included) about the validity of the LI, please understand that was specifically at a time when the availability of the LI in the states was truly looking bleak (i.e. RR had discontinued the LI Conference here due to legal concerns, etc.).

I think that if ccc's posts were examined chronologically, he'd fit-in with others like me - who were conservatively very guarded during the period where details about the LI's stateside availability seemed most bleak.

If he has been duplicitous, then I've been deceived, and I'd like to be corrected if you will so kindly do so.


Please you two............. :roll:

I've witnessed the "Evolution" of both of you, what's truly sad here is that you two actually "Believe" yourselves............... :wink:

You two are part of the reason I will no longer go the the "Other" forum, ( the major one is that BEEP Kris Shortland).
Please leave your "Agendas" there.

Thank You

It was a joke Guys, lighten up Ladies........... :roll:

:lol: Now *I* am being said that I am a part of any agenda? :lol:

Frankly, I'm honored that you'd think that of me.

That's dearly laughable. :lol:

Look at how many times I've criticized LPPs in the past, despite owning three heads and two control boxes myself - all of which I paid for at full retail pricing set by KMPH-CAN/LPP-CAN. If I have any agenda at all, it is solely one that is concerned only with giving me the best possible protection against LIDAR, and is in no way related to whose pockets gets their fill. To that end, I could truly care less.

To imply that I know any of the back-sceens principals of the industry is something that would be flattering if it were even remotely true, but is sadly just laughable.

[charles charlie charles]

I think you meant "two faced"

"Marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another"


Sadly you are mistaken. I am not being deceptive nor am I acting under a different influence.

I have been in the process of ordering your LI thru "Interceptor Taiwan" before the LI became so widely available, and only financial constraints and a need to clarify specific points has stopped me ordering already.

One of your acquaintances near your home has even tried to source me a quad setup, with no success hence I turned to the gentleman mentioned above.

My posts several months ago were made in the context of a promise made that the LI was going to be available "at the end of april". When this failed to materialise I was naturally suspicious and aired my concerns. At that time if you read my posts you will see that I hoped very much that your new LI would be exactly what we all hoped for.

Even now with your apparent hostility I will still be ordering a quad setup.

Why? See above.

[ELVATO]

So...was the original question answered?

[crazyVOLVOrob]

So...was the original question answered?No but reading the manual and the box and looking at the LI's CPU it can be computer updated...

Heck that is how Ivan updated his jammer with new jammer algorythms(sp?) in AZ and the control boxes i am seeing people have is identical to what was tested at the GOL event.

It's just a matter of getting the updates online.

[interceptor]

I think you meant "two faced"

"Marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another"


Sadly you are mistaken. I am not being deceptive nor am I acting under a different influence.

I have been in the process of ordering your LI thru "Interceptor Taiwan" before the LI became so widely available, and only financial constraints and a need to clarify specific points has stopped me ordering already.

One of your acquaintances near your home has even tried to source me a quad setup, with no success hence I turned to the gentleman mentioned above.

My posts several months ago were made in the context of a promise made that the LI was going to be available "at the end of april". When this failed to materialise I was naturally suspicious and aired my concerns. At that time if you read my posts you will see that I hoped very much that your new LI would be exactly what we all hoped for.

Even now with your apparent hostility I will still be ordering a quad setup.

Why? See above.

i am just tired being compared with something i was a part (LPP) (LD) (AL) and how outstandig it is... just have some time for your self and dont jump conclusions, this is what i said when we split, time is now... and time will show who is keeping it real...

EOD 4 me...

Answer:

LI is equipped with standard RS232 port and able to connect to starndard pc via its com port or USB to serial converter.
Application for changing settings and updating is in final stage of development and will be available for download.
Some changes are already done on our web, and we will do some major changes on web in near future (dont force me to give you any dates since it always hard to give them) like download section, a realy detailad videos of testing (keep it real videos) , forum, online shop and so on...
we putt our 105% of work to get the best jammer there is and now we will start to make it look good (design, packages, manuals, network, and before all support)

[Phillip559]

So...was the original question answered?No but reading the manual and the box and looking at the LI's CPU it can be computer updated...

Heck that is how Ivan updated his jammer with new jammer algorythms(sp?) in AZ and the control boxes i am seeing people have is identical to what was tested at the GOL event.

It's just a matter of getting the updates online.

So Rob, when are you planning to get an LI? don't you have an LPP at the moment? Or is it a Blinder <<:twisted: :twisted: ?

haha

I just can't keep up with what everyone has on this board :)

[charles charlie charles]

i am just tired being compared with something i was a part (LPP) (LD) (AL) and how outstandig it is... just have some time for your self and dont jump conclusions, this is what i said when we split, time is now... and time will show who is keeping it real...

EOD 4 me...

Answer:

LI is equipped with standard RS232 port and able to connect to starndard pc via its com port or USB to serial converter.
Application for changing settings and updating is in final stage of development and will be available for download.
Some changes are already done on our web, and we will do some major changes on web in near future (dont force me to give you any dates since it always hard to give them) like download section, a realy detailad videos of testing (keep it real videos) , forum, online shop and so on...
we putt our 105% of work to get the best jammer there is and now we will start to make it look good (design, packages, manuals, network, and before all support)


Thankyou Ivan, at last.

That is all I wanted to know. Such a shame a simple question turned into such finger pointing.

As it happens, I'm now off to my bank to arrange this transfer.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

So...was the original question answered?No but reading the manual and the box and looking at the LI's CPU it can be computer updated...

Heck that is how Ivan updated his jammer with new jammer algorythms(sp?) in AZ and the control boxes i am seeing people have is identical to what was tested at the GOL event.

It's just a matter of getting the updates online.

So Rob, when are you planning to get an LI? don't you have an LPP at the moment? Or is it a Blinder <<:twisted: :twisted: ?

haha

I just can't keep up with what everyone has on this board :)Still with Blinder but a Quad LI will be stealthin' out my silver volvo in the future

[Hessen]

Please you two............. :roll:

I've witnessed the "Evolution" of both of you, what's truly sad here is that you two actually "Believe" yourselves............... :wink:

You two are part of the reason I will no longer go the the "Other" forum, ( the major one is that BEEP Kris Shortland).
Please leave your "Agendas" there.

Thank You

It was a joke Guys, lighten up Ladies........... :roll:

:lol: Now *I* am being said that I am a part of any agenda? :lol:

Frankly, I'm honored that you'd think that of me.

That's dearly laughable. :lol:

Look at how many times I've criticized LPPs in the past, despite owning three heads and two control boxes myself - all of which I paid for at full retail pricing set by KMPH-CAN/LPP-CAN. If I have any agenda at all, it is solely one that is concerned only with giving me the best possible protection against LIDAR, and is in no way related to whose pockets gets their fill. To that end, I could truly care less.

To imply that I know any of the back-sceens principals of the industry is something that would be flattering if it were even remotely true, but is sadly just laughable.


All I can say to you is..........................

I'm so sorry I owe you a big apology...................... :oops: :oops: :oops:

I confused you with someone else, My mistake, hopefully you can forgive me, while I pry my foot out of my mouth.

Again I apologize to you, those comments should never have been directed at you.

The Horn

[SmaartAasSaabr]

Oh it's the famous "brown leather" hidden agenda! :lol:

[TSi+WRX]

^ I love leather!

Oh, wait, wrong Forum..... :oops: :lol:

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the horn13 - Don't worry about it, bro - it's the Errornet, and all too easy to get screen-names/identities confused. :)

It takes a big man to own up to one's mistakes, and I can certainly respect you for this, too.

Thanks for the apologies, it is humbly accepted, and I bear no ill-will. :)