pics of my VEILed car in Hong Kong

[Dilip]

Hi guys. I got a can of veil recently through NVR2fast, and here are pictures. I am rather worried of the plate being too dark, and my headlights are also too dark. Did I not apply it properly? Pls comment.

Here are pics before i veiled.
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN0394.jpg
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN1306.jpg

[Dilip]

Here is one it is veiled. Notice how dark the headlights are, maybe i put too much?

http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9646.jpg
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9647.jpg
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9650.jpg

[Dilip]

the plate, i'm little concerned might attract police attention.
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9651.jpg

[Dilip]

http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9655.jpg
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9656.jpg
http://home.netvigator.com/~dilipb/DSCN9658.jpg

[JTW]

Great looking car you have there. If you're concerned about the VEIL looking obvious on your plate you can buy a custom sized laser shield from Roy. I find the laser shield are less obvious then the VEIL.

JTW

[Dilip]

Hmm...... thanks, maybe i'll look into that.

The Veil guy:
Do you think my I could have done a much better job on the veiling? Did i over-do it on the headlights? You got way way better results on your video.

Comments from anybody? I could re-do it if you poeple think its rather poor. Pls share your thoughts. This was first attempt.

[nvr2fast]

Yeah... same on my S2000.

The lights are HID, and usually (or were before) very bright and focused. Now with the VEIL, it seems the light scatters inside the light's housing, behind the glass, so now the light housing overall looks bright, but the "beam" of the HID is scattered and non-focused.

My lights look similar to dilip's... and so does my license plates.

I actually think the anti-laser plate will be more "illegal" than having some dirt/smudges on the license plate... we could just say we cleaned it with something corrosive or something haha :P

But yeah... did we do our lights too dark, in your opinion?

[JTW]

Yeah... same on my S2000.

The lights are HID, and usually (or were before) very bright and focused. Now with the VEIL, it seems the light scatters inside the light's housing, behind the glass, so now the light housing overall looks bright, but the "beam" of the HID is scattered and non-focused.

My lights look similar to dilip's... and so does my license plates.

I actually think the anti-laser plate will be more "illegal" than having some dirt/smudges on the license plate... we could just say we cleaned it with something corrosive or something haha :P

But yeah... did we do our lights too dark, in your opinion?

I like the look of dark headlights. It makes your car look meaner 8)

[nvr2fast]

Yeah... same on my S2000.

The lights are HID, and usually (or were before) very bright and focused. Now with the VEIL, it seems the light scatters inside the light's housing, behind the glass, so now the light housing overall looks bright, but the "beam" of the HID is scattered and non-focused.

My lights look similar to dilip's... and so does my license plates.

I actually think the anti-laser plate will be more "illegal" than having some dirt/smudges on the license plate... we could just say we cleaned it with something corrosive or something haha :P

But yeah... did we do our lights too dark, in your opinion?

I like the look of dark headlights. It makes your car look meaner 8)

Yes, I like the look too... but it's degraded the functionality of the lights... to light the road :lol:

I'm just wondering (well, i guess dilip also wonders this) is if this is "normal"... how much reduction in visible light is supposed to happen with VEIL on?

[JTW]

Yeah... same on my S2000.

The lights are HID, and usually (or were before) very bright and focused. Now with the VEIL, it seems the light scatters inside the light's housing, behind the glass, so now the light housing overall looks bright, but the "beam" of the HID is scattered and non-focused.

My lights look similar to dilip's... and so does my license plates.

I actually think the anti-laser plate will be more "illegal" than having some dirt/smudges on the license plate... we could just say we cleaned it with something corrosive or something haha :P

But yeah... did we do our lights too dark, in your opinion?

I like the look of dark headlights. It makes your car look meaner 8)

Yes, I like the look too... but it's degraded the functionality of the lights... to light the road :lol:

I'm just wondering (well, i guess dilip also wonders this) is if this is "normal"... how much reduction in visible light is supposed to happen with VEIL on?

This is what VEIL's website has to say about light output.


Does VEIL Reduce Light Output?No.

VEIL does not noticeably reduce the lumen output of headlights.

In some cases, you may notice a pleasant bluish-violet hue that is often seen on many vehicles employing a HID lighting system.

[nvr2fast]

Does VEIL Reduce Light Output?No.

VEIL does not noticeably reduce the lumen output of headlights.

In some cases, you may notice a pleasant bluish-violet hue that is often seen on many vehicles employing a HID lighting system.

Hum, so I guess maybe our VEIL is bad or something, or we did something wrong? We even waited 5 or so minutes before applying, as per Veil guy's recommendation :(

[Dilip]

Yeah i think we didn't apply it properly then. The output of my lights has dropped by a significant amount, its less than half as bright as before.

Can you guys judge by looking at the pics if we did it right or not?

[JTW]

Yeah i think we didn't apply it properly then. The output of my lights has dropped by a significant amount, its less than half as bright as before.

Can you guys judge by looking at the pics if we did it right or not?

This thread takes for freaking ever to load. Make sure you're only putting on one coat of Veil.

[Dilip]

Thanks for your reply.

When you say one coat of veil, do you mean just paint it once from left to right? Coz i did it several times, left to right on the same spot of the headlights, while the paint was still dripping down the surface of the lights.

Or does only one coat mean let veil it, then let it dry and then dont veil it a 2nd coat?

[stalker]

man it looks horrible...no way ill be using veil if it makes my headlights look like that...i need all the light i can get on the road....can anyone comment if it is normal or not?? where is the veil guy?

Have people noticed a problem with their light output after applyling veil??

[Dilip]

Actually the back doesn't look too bad, but the front is rather dark.

I dont think i did it properly...........
Can anyone else comment pls?

[stalker]

for starters id remove or blank your numberplate out..incl in your avatar....its very easy to track you down and give you a ticket if you are a cop reading this forum ;)

[Dilip]

hahaha its ok, i'm not doing anything illegal and i dont think any cop from Hong Kong knows about this board.

[jackenloper]

How much more effective is VEIL vs. the Laser sheild?

Do they give the same amount of protection?

[JTW]

How much more effective is VEIL vs. the Laser sheild?

Do they give the same amount of protection?

I think it was Sethy that proved the laser shield was as effective, if not better then the veil on the plate only. You can't buy the laser shield alone because you need to cover your headlights. I only recommend the shield over veil on the plate alone because it's less obvious.

JTW

[nvr2fast]

Well, I can say the Veil is a bit sticky and doesn't "drag" from left to right completely, especially on long headlights. That is, with 1 dip of the brush, you won't go from left to right without the Veil getting very thin and trailing off on the right (if painting from left to right).

So usually we had to dip the brush back in a bit to get a bit more to finish off the right side. Then what we did was (without dipping in again) going over the entire surface left to right one more time to get it smoothened out.

So its not like we put it on, waited an hour, and painted it on again. We basically put on enough to over the lights, but we DID have to dip in more than once, for the above reason.

[stalker]

hahaha its ok, i'm not doing anything illegal and i dont think any cop from Hong Kong knows about this board.

hahaa famous last words.......

[Dilip]

Nobody's still answered our main question.

Did i do it properly? or did i do a terrible job?

[stalker]

it looks too dark and streaky for me...id say NO!!

[f_399]

mine got dark too but its not a big problem
BEFORE:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/522000-522999/522298_6_full.jpg


AFTER:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/522000-522999/522298_144_full.jpg


The VeilGuy saw this and said it was alright

[stalker]

hmm...ok I officially wont be getting veil then....I dont want it to ruin the look of my car like it has on you guys.

[f_399]

sometimes it actually looks better, I like the effect on his Mazda 6 and my car

no problems with light output and my friends dont even notice, it looks dark at certain angles

[Dilip]

The problem with mine is.......my light output has dropped significantly :(

I think next week i'm gonna remove the veil and do it again exactly as per the video of the veil guy.

I"m still hoping The Veil Guy can respond to this thread and yield some comments.

NVR2FAST did his car together with mine but his is not as dark and his xenon lights are still way brighter than my xenons.

[SmaartAasSaabr]

Dillip, I have a '96 Mazda 626, and the headlights put out no light at all :roll: Not even VEIL'ed but the plastic oxidised so the lights are dark yellow like one of these happy faces :shock: :shock:

[Dilip]

Hi,

I used to have a year 2,000 mazda 626 before this car. Those lights wer in fact way brigthter than the 6.

[SmaartAasSaabr]

When the car was newer it wasn't so bad, but I took it out for a drive and man I can't see! :lol: I hope the plastic on the new Mazda6 is a little bit more durable, or maybe they could make it from glass like "the good old days" :lol: I'll take a pic, it's really bad.

[Veil Guy]

The Veil Guy has been travelling as of late.

First to Ohio to meet up with the GoL and then to FL to do some fishing with the Blinder Dude.

Checking in from SW Florida where gas seem to be somewhat scarce.

At any rate, it appears from the PICs that the lights seem a little dark and streaky. Check out Outrun's video of how it should be applied.

Demonstrated application on Happya$$' vehicle.

Notice very little streaking and lights don't appear too dark.

I have notice on HID systems that VEIL tends to make them appear a little more Halogen-like.

Shouldn't be a dramatic difference in light output. If still a concer, check out Silverstars on the low beam, they may improve the situation.

I understand Stalker doesn't care too much for VEIL's appearance.

In your case a jammer is the way to go.

Veil Guy 8)

[nvr2fast]

mine got dark too but its not a big problem
BEFORE:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/522000-522999/522298_6_full.jpg


AFTER:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/522000-522999/522298_144_full.jpg


The VeilGuy saw this and said it was alright

Your car pix look very similar to Dilip's and mine... maybe a little darker than mine... but still very similar.

So I GUESS they could be ligher but not by much (not like its going to be half ligher).

[Dilip]

Hi

I have seen the video many many times :D, its amazing. i guess i have to try and re-do it. maybe coz i didnt well thats why my light output has dropped significantly.

[stalker]

I understand Stalker doesn't care too much for VEIL's appearance.

In your case a jammer is the way to go.

Veil Guy 8)

yeah its only as my lights give a crap output anyway...and i dont want to decrease it anymore... if i can get away with making them not to dark I would be happy.....I might see how it turns out...I really do want some tho...

[thestaton]

Dilip: Here is what I recommend.

Run out to the strore and buy like 4 or 5, 4" foam applicators. here in the states they are 39 cents a piece at walmart! these work really well I have found. I only use one per headlight then toss it! i just said 4 or 5 so you'll have extras for the future!

First as always shake the can and let it sit for a good 5 minutes dont cheat ;)

get a friend and a roll of paper towels! have them lay the paper towels so that anything that drips off the headlight gets absorbed!

take the 4" applicator and let it soak up a lot of VEIL! Its a little wasteful to do it this way but it works! once you have it just ringing wet with VEIL start with the top left and work your way across pressing evenly on the applicator so that as you go across VEIL is just flowing out!

if it stops flowing let it absorb more and start back where you left off. then just let gravity due its job. if done correctly you wont ever have to touch it with the applicator except just a little bit at the bottom to clean up any excess.

you'll start to get streaking when ever a brush or applicator hits the headlight.

For your plate I would recommend taking it off the car. put it on a flat surface in the house away from bugs & dust. just use a brush and long level strokes. I would put like 2 coats on it so it looks a little tinted but looks evenly tinted! if you have tinted & then white it will look like something is on it. if you have a smooth even tint no one will know the difference especially at a distane.

good luck any more questions just let me know ;) I've been doing it this way since I learned from Bob and the headlights on the EVO look pretty mean!!!!

[Dilip]

thestaton,

Hey thank you very much for your suggestion. I'm a little lost as to what you mean by a foam applicator? Is it like those cotton sponges? So you're saying not to use the brush supplied in the package?

P.s.

Today i got stopped by police on a random roadblock. They did not say anything about the license plate. Then I did a second round again on the same roadblock coz i dropped someobdy home and had to go back on the same road, and again 2nd time round they didn't say anything. Maybe i was lucky they didn't notice it.......

[thestaton]

these right here :)

http://www.paintplus.com/rpspec.asp?pid=738&lkTbl=App_Spec&utm_id=FRG001

yeah I have never used the paint brush for anything :) these foam applicators are the key!

[holein1]

I don't think your veil job came out too bad a little more practice and you'll have it down! This is a pic of my wifes car as you can see my veil job is far from perfect.

Don



http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4361/veil15ig.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veil15ig.jpg)

[f_399]

I don't think your veil job came out too bad a little more practice and you'll have it down! This is a pic of my wifes car as you can see my veil job is far from perfect.

Don



http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4361/veil15ig.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veil15ig.jpg)

smoked light looks good!! post your picture in the thread for VEIL Pictures so we can have them all in one place :D

http://www.radardetector.net/Veil-Pictures-4695t.php

[holein1]

I don't think your veil job came out too bad a little more practice and you'll have it down! This is a pic of my wifes car as you can see my veil job is far from perfect.

Don



http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4361/veil15ig.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veil15ig.jpg)

smoked light looks good!! post your picture in the thread for VEIL Pictures so we can have them all in one place :D

http://www.radardetector.net/Veil-Pictures-4695t.php


Thanks will do!

[Dilip]

thestaton,

Hey thanks for that. I"ll try getting these from the supermarkets here. :lol:

[Viper Pilot]

I put two coats on my car. That is, I let the first coat dry for maybe 5 minutes, then put on the second coat. Mine don't seem to be as dark as the above pic however.
I also polished the headlight covers with a plexiglass swirl/scratch remover polish, then cleaned thoroughly with rubbing alcohol. I did this as I read in other posts that it may help the Veil stick better.
What I found is it starts to dry very quickly, and you're better off to stop trying to get rid of runs in the fluid as soon as it stops running. If you continue to draw the foam brush across the surface once it gets just a little bit tacky, it'll streak. My first coat looked great...no streaks...unitl I drew the brush across one too many times.

[ZO6Vette]

that sure is dark. I think I will go veil up my headlights more now, I think I put too little on, however my license plate looks like yours haha, or at least before I took it off.