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sethy
08-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Laser Technology - TruCAM Laser Speed Gun with Video (http://www.lasertech.com/TruCAM-Laser-Speed-Gun.aspx)

"It can defeat jam detectors and offers reliable data encryption that ensures your evidence is always secure."

is this just marketing humbo jumbo?

snoopyc4
08-12-2009, 10:32 AM
Repost. I think they meant to say "laser detectors". I don't think it can beat jammers.

bockr
08-12-2009, 10:35 AM
This is the same as the other guns that also claim to defeat jammers just with a cam, the camera is just to help in court or countries where they don't have to pull you over and just mail the ticket.

TSi+WRX
08-12-2009, 09:24 PM
I believe that the latest-generation LI definitely handles the TruCam (Metric variant of the TruSpeed, equipped with a camera attachment), in term of jamming.

I'm not that up-to-date on European/Asian hardware, though - but I'd imagine that at the very least, the Mx7 from Blinder, as well as the AL G9.1, would handle the jamming aspect, too.

The camera, though, I wonder, if it will be able to pick up IR emissions.

Certainly, I can see why they'd claim that it's, as snoopyc4 would have it read instead - "detector proof." We've seen with multiple independent hobbyist tests now that the TruSpeed is rather hard to detect, but once detected, jamming it, as long as one's got the right algorithm, really isn't much of a problem.

radarrob
08-12-2009, 09:28 PM
:hmmmm2:

Just1n
08-13-2009, 06:07 AM
Ok, keep in mind that LTI has two versions of the TruSpeed, one with jammer detection and one with jammer detection and avoidance (those are how they refer to the different firmwares in-house).

Also keep in mind that the version with jammer detection and avoidance has an increased range over the version that just has jammer detection.

Now, look at the specifications of the TruCAM:
Laser Technology - TruCAM Specifications (http://www.lasertech.com/TruCAM-Specifications.aspx)

Maximum range: 4,000 feet (the current US model is only 2,000)
Anti-Jam: Automatic Laser Jammer Avoidance (the current US model only has jamer detection, not detection AND avoidance)

Looks to me like the Euro TruSpeed was molded into the TruCAM. As of right now, several jammers DO NOT jam this gun. I am not too worried though, because the camera variants of the Stalker LZ1 and Kustom Pro Laser III aren't very common (and they are also expensive).

Hopefully the LI update for the Euro TruSpeed comes soon...

TSi+WRX
08-13-2009, 07:24 AM
Ok, keep in mind that LTI has two versions of the TruSpeed, one with jammer detection and one with jammer detection and avoidance (those are how they refer to the different firmwares in-house).

Also keep in mind that the version with jammer detection and avoidance has an increased range over the version that just has jammer detection.

Now, look at the specifications of the TruCAM:
Laser Technology - TruCAM Specifications (http://www.lasertech.com/TruCAM-Specifications.aspx)

Maximum range: 4,000 feet (the current US model is only 2,000)
Anti-Jam: Automatic Laser Jammer Avoidance (the current US model only has jamer detection, not detection AND avoidance)

Looks to me like the Euro TruSpeed was molded into the TruCAM. As of right now, several jammers DO NOT jam this gun. I am not too worried though, because the camera variants of the Stalker LZ1 and Kustom Pro Laser III aren't very common (and they are also expensive).

Hopefully the LI update for the Euro TruSpeed comes soon...

^ That is indeed what I understood to be the case, that the TruCam is essentially a Metric TruSpeed "core."

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/enforcement-technology-tactics/36010-new-product-laser-technology.html

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/detector-counter-measure-videos/43077-li-7-06-vs-truespeed-1-truespeed-2-a.html

From the looks of it, at least the LI and AL G9 (or 9.1) properly identifies as well as protects against the Metric TruSpeed (and, I would thus imagine, by-extension, the TruCam).

I would imagine that, given the recent introduction date of the new Mx7 Blinder, that it should also incorporate jamming for this device, although that is an unknown at this point.


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All the evidence they get is just going to be JTG :lol:

^ True, but given the laws of some of these areas, that's not something that you'd want documented.

I predict that, very soon, our brothers and sisters across the oceans will start to incorporate aftermarket LED "accent lighting" on their vehicles (with self-retrofitted IR LEDs), in an effort to confound such "evidence." Either that, or some other way of combating this issue/concern.

:)

speed-dreams
08-13-2009, 07:29 AM
Truscam is just the VPR Truspeed with camera

Just1n
08-13-2009, 08:34 AM
Truscam is just the VPR Truspeed with camera

I realize this, but look at the specifications page... all units are US Customary. Now, the TruCAM is not yet IACP approved, but who knows if LTI are still working on that...

djrams80
08-13-2009, 12:18 PM
I realize this, but look at the specifications page... all units are US Customary. Now, the TruCAM is not yet IACP approved, but who knows if LTI are still working on that...VPR guns are not allowed under IACP regulations.

http://www.theiacp.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=5Sd77WlC%2bB0%3d&tabid=245

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http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3089/iacp.png (http://img300.imageshack.us/i/iacp.png/)

Just1n
08-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Currently approved guns do not conform to those regulations.

Look at the Ultralyte... produces speeds from 0 to 200 mph. Pro Laser III from 5 to 200 mph. Stalker from 1 to 299.

Granted VPR is much more of a bigger deal than speed range, but you get my point.

djrams80
08-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Currently approved guns do not conform to those regulations.

Look at the Ultralyte... produces speeds from 0 to 200 mph. Pro Laser III from 5 to 200 mph. Stalker from 1 to 299.

Granted VPR is much more of a bigger deal than speed range, but you get my point.I assume that you are refering to the maximum low speed requirement. Anything that's read speeds at least as low as 10mph would meet that requirement. 0, 1 and 5 are all lower than 10, so they meet this requirement.

Just1n
08-14-2009, 08:24 PM
Oops, misinterpreted that. My mistake. :o