Whats a good car to avoid Radar/Laser?

[FastLane]

Whats a good car to avoid Radar/Laser?

[A-TownNavi]

Radar- a flying one
Laser- black with flip-up headlights and limited to no chrome. Veil, Lasershield and a jammer.

[jimbonzzz]

C5 or older Corvette, black

[Rottman]

Whats a good car to avoid Radar/Laser?

YUGO :wink:

[A-TownNavi]

Whats a good car to avoid Radar/Laser?

YUGO :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[AirMoore]

Laser - New black sportbike (narrow...no chunkers with the new 14-R ninja headlights...what a machine BTW 8) ) with veil, laser jammer and a smoked shield.

(ok so maybe thats cheating)....but A-TownNavi and jimbonzzz both gave pretty much what you would want in a car for laser protection.

[jimbonzzz]

I had radar in mind too :wink:

Here's the results of a Car & Driver test from way back in 1979(!)
This shows the distance in feet at which the radar gun (Kustom KR-11) could acquire a speed against different vehicles.

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/8597/radarrange2nc.jpg

[FastLane]

how would the new bmw 325i in black do against radar with my rx65 and veil?

[GTO_04]

I had radar in mind too :wink:

Here's the results of a Car & Driver test from way back in 1979(!)
This shows the distance in feet at which the radar gun (Kustom KR-11) could acquire a speed against different vehicles.

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/8597/radarrange2nc.jpg

Don't forget about the WS6 TA, preferably in black. It is virtually invisible to laser without a front plate. And it is guaranteed to frustrate Ka band toting cops! Range is similar to the 'Vette! Cops will normally clock you at 1500ft. so you have almost 1000 ft. to slow down! This will cause the cops to think that you beat their instant-on! Priceless!

I was sorry to see the that the C6 doesn't have the pop-up headlights!

GTO_04

[cdenton]

That detection range on the 'Vette is amazing ... I've been wanting to get one for a while now anyway!

[GTO_04]

That detection range on the 'Vette is amazing ... I've been wanting to get one for a while now anyway!

I was sorry to see the pop up headlights disappear in the C6. That could increase the laser range! The 'Vette is also hard to radar from behind, at least with Ka band!

GTO_04

[Nothegger]

I had radar in mind too :wink:

Here's the results of a Car & Driver test from way back in 1979(!)
This shows the distance in feet at which the radar gun (Kustom KR-11) could acquire a speed against different vehicles.

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/8597/radarrange2nc.jpg


How come the TransAm is easiest to detect out of all the cars tested, it's not that huge of a car. And I don't know how does it have the largest frontal area, how did they calculate that?

[SmaartAasSaabr]

A T/A of that vintage would have to be a 70-81... Having one myself, it's fairly wide in comparison of my other cars, but it's quite low-slung.

The radiator though is like a perfect 90 degrees to the road though, that might have something to do with it.

[stealthJamal]

Some good cars are an older Black Toyota MR2, an older Black Acura NSX, Black F body Firebird,

[Mackid343]

Here's the results of a Car & Driver test from way back in 1979(!)
This shows the distance in feet at which the radar gun (Kustom KR-11) could acquire a speed against different vehicles.

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/8597/radarrange2nc.jpg

has there ever been a test like this done with more modern cars? a lot of them are much more aerodynamic than they were back then

[GTO_04]

Some good cars are an older Black Toyota MR2, an older Black Acura NSX, Black F body Firebird,


I'll second the black Firebird. If you live an a state with no front plates, the black Firebird T/A is almost impossible to clock with laser. And if you have the TA with the Ram Air Package and the fiberglass hood, Ka radar is going to have a major problem clocking you any further away than about 520 ft. I tested this with two differnt radars and the results were the same. Plus the Stalker Dual SL was able to clock SUVs at over a mile away with no problem. I was unable to test against K or X band radar.

I had a '98 TA that was Blue-Green Chameleon in color with the standard aluminum hood. The Stalker Dual could clock it at 1500 ft. That is about the same distance that your average 4 door sedan, like a Buick Regal GS, could be clocked at.

With the black Ram Air it was great fun to be tooling along at 15 over and have the cop hit you with instant on Ka at 1500ft. I wonder if he thought he was being jammed or something when his radar came up blank. This makes him a little less smug about his instant-on!

Yeah, I know the cop can wait until I get within 500 ft. but I have a lot better chance of seeing him and recognizing the cop car at 500 ft. compared to 1500. So most likely I'm going to be on the brakes before he releases the RF hold.

GTO_04

[Won Hunglo]

A very slow one.

[aspera]

Some good cars are an older Black Toyota MR2...

...with no front plate, flat black FN01R-C wheels, lowered, and no front turn signal lenses (just bulbs)

Now all I need are laser jammers mounted where the turn signal lenses used to be.

[StlouisX50]

Has anyone used the Police Departments Speed Sign as a testing tool?

I tried to see how stealth my car was compared to others. I visualy watched where other cars got picked up on the speed sign and compared those to my car. You could try this or if you can find a safe place, sit and watch where the cars can be picked up. Do some tallys and see what is the stealthiest out there.

*Note speed signs may not be as accurate as actual radar guns but hey it works!

[holein1]

Acura integra is also very good!

[StlouisX50]

I sure would love to get a test done on this, however it would take days. Having numorous guns, cars, ect.

[the_Flash083]

what about a 1st gen black dodge stealth i heard they are like invisable to laser

[crazyVOLVOrob]

no car is invisible to laser

[eviltwin67]

The T-Rex isn't a car, but I want one in black of course !!
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/eviltwin67/trex_front_bg.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/eviltwin67/trex_side_bg.jpg
Maybe add a Mr.turbo.com turbo for another 100+ HP
Performance:
0-60 mph: 4.1 sec.
Top Speed:
140 mph.
Lateral Acceleration:
1.9g.
Chassis:
Multi-tubular steel chassis frame.
Engine:
1164cc Inline 4 cyl., DOHC, with Ram-Air.
Transmission:
Sequential 6-Speed close ratio gear box, purpose designed reverse gear, rear wheel torque damper.
Front Suspension:
Unequal opposed triangular arms, adjustable dampers with coil overs, sway bar.
Rear Suspension:
Swinging arm, dual adjustable dampers with coil overs.
Steering:
Brakes:
Front Discs: Cross-drilled discs, 11in.(280mm) diameter, 4-piston aluminum calipers.
Rear Discs: Cross-drilled disc, 10in.(254mm) diameter, 2-piston aluminum caliper.
Wheels and Tires T-Rex Wheels and Tires:
Aluminum 7"x16" front, 11"x17" rear, 195/50/ZR16 front tires, 315/35/ZR17 rear tire.
Body:
Reinforced fiberglass plastic-sandwich construction, carbon fiber windscreens and headrests.
Cockpit:
Side-by-side 2-person seating, adjustable backs, adjustable foot-pedal box, 3-point retractable safety belts.
T-Rex Dimensions T-Rex Dimensions:
Wheelbase: 90in(2286mm);
Width: 78in.(1981mm);
Length: 138in.(3500mm);
Height: 42in.(1067mm);
Dry Weight: 900lbs (410kg).
Fuel Capacity:
7.5 US gal. (28L).

[SmaartAasSaabr]

I've seen a couple of those. I almost ran over one in my pickup truck once...

I also almost ran over a guy on a scooter and a smart fortwo also. At least the guy in the T-Rex saw me coming and was able to accelerate :lol:

[A-TownNavi]

That isn't the real T-rex, this is the real T-rex- http://dodgeram.org/ki4cy/ram_picts/Trex.htm

Introduced in 1997 as a concept, but they never put it into production :( , im still in love with it.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5255/rex1zn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Of course you could always do what this guy did, and build your own :D
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7130/trex2rr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[eviltwin67]

A-Town, that would be harder to stealth than this 4x4 black beauty:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/eviltwin67/Ford650XUV.jpg
This may not go off road as far, but why would you have to when you could just go through most anything...in comfort and style with a lot more people on board! 8) Plus the T-rex trike could probably even fit inside for when this F650 XUV runs out of fuel. :lol:

[411]

And I don't know how does it have the largest frontal area, how did they calculate that?

The Rcs, radar cross section, is not fully related to the frontal area of a target , it depends the shape , the material , the finish of the metal .

The Rcs is also related to the band used , what is stealthy at X could be more or less at K / Ka .

The major contributor to radar returns is the radiator , tilting a radiator by few upward degrees can increase stealthiness of any car .... another test for GOL.....

The stealth plane discovery was that the inside of the cabin was an excellent reflector .......everything in metal / or metallised having 90 degrees angles is a good reflector .

A specialist one time told me even windshield is a good reflector if the angle is not too steep....

Passive conter-measures is an area not enough expoited = cutting range of radar can save the day.... :wink: and it is 100% legal :idea:

[madmmac]

I must be good in my Carrera....air cooled=no radiator

[the_Flash083]

That isn't the real T-rex, this is the real T-rex- http://dodgeram.org/ki4cy/ram_picts/Trex.htm

Introduced in 1997 as a concept, but they never put it into production :( , im still in love with it.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5255/rex1zn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Of course you could always do what this guy did, and build your own :D
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7130/trex2rr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

thats some jurassic park **** right there

[Studdg]

Black, veiled Miata, no front plate. Just think of small sports cars with rounded fronts.

[amoney]

How about a look alike cop car, light bar and everything. As long as you do not light up anyone.

[the_Flash083]

How about a look alike cop car, light bar and everything. As long as you do not light up anyone.

genious.

[amoney]

How about a look alike cop car, light bar and everything. As long as you do not light up anyone.

genious.

Can you imagine the slew of traffic following your ass, and then I thought about it, your liable that someone will call in to report a crazy officer traveling at 100 mph. Back to the slew of traffic, yeah then the speed trap picks everyone behind you off, would hate to do that to my fellow speeders, but oops.

[the_Flash083]

How about a look alike cop car, light bar and everything. As long as you do not light up anyone.

genious.

Can you imagine the slew of traffic following your *BEEP*, and then I thought about it, your liable that someone will call in to report a crazy officer traveling at 100 mph. Back to the slew of traffic, yeah then the speed trap picks everyone behind you off, would hate to do that to my fellow speeders, but oops.


LOL that **** would be supper sweet. I could see it now, that would definenlty work long as you didnt over use it.