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Woodscolby
04-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Well. After my Dad's truck was stolen yesterday in under 10 minutes from a Home Depot parking lot in Dallas , I have decided to make car security my top priority with my car. I will be adding all of this equipment to my car within the next month or two and was seeing if anybody else had some suggestions on what else to add.

Here is what I have down so far:
1 - Eyemax DVST-GN-704JLC Mobile DVR Unit
4 - Eyemax MBC-M170 Cameras (One behind Rearview mirror facing out front windshield, one focused on driver door, one focused on passenger door, on focused out back window)
1- Stealth installed microphone
1- Escort Entourage CIS w/GPS Recovery and Monitoring Service

Possibly a Viper 5902 Responder HD Color SuperCode SST 2-Way Security and Remote Start System w/:
Audio Glass Break Sensor
Digital Tilt Motion Sensor
Backup Battery System
Backup Battery Siren

And possibly even Lojack on top of everything.

I won't be in the nicest area for school and the thieves know that the people that go to the school have a lot of electronics and valuables and will be in school for long periods of time. I will be at school 6-7 days a week around 8 hours per day with classes at all times of the day. I can have class at 8AM, I can have class at 11PM depending on what classes I have for that period. I do not want to risk anything happening to my car and not end up losing everything.

It only took those guys 10 minutes to steal my dad's truck so I can't risk anything with my car.

Money will not be an object on this, I cannot afford to leave my car at stock security with all of my valuables inside. I will be adding a quad LI system as well as a CB to my car on top of my current system in the next few months so I want it secured as well as I can possibly get it.

Any suggestions on extra security will be greatly appreciated. And to those with camera systems, if you would post what you have so I can compare and decide on what kind of system I need, that will be appreciated as well.

Thanks in advance.

v1user
04-21-2010, 03:45 PM
I would definitely add High security window ballistic Film is possible. I'm in a very crappy neighborhood too and worry about them trying to rip the gps out of the dash.

I would also install steel plates on the back side of the door handles to prevent entry with a screwdriver. A plate would block the shaft.

If you have HID headlights you may want to try looking for a hood lock plate. I've opened hoods from the grill just by using a long screwdriver.


Google: Ravelco The principles behind it make it sound like it makes your car nearly impossible to steal.




The Ravelco Anti Theft Device is installed in an easily accessible place under or flush mounted in the dashboard of your vehicle. A removable 16 pin male plug (which when not in use connects to your key chain) makes all the electronic connections. A hidden armored steel cable protects the wires from the rear of the RAVELCO base on through to the engine compartment where all the connections are made and camouflaged. When the plug is removed from the RAVELCO, it is impossible to start the vehicle. There are more than 100,000 different combinations. NO MASTER PLUGS. An impossible obstacle for even the most persistent thief.


Since your 18, I think you can get a CCW permit out of South Dakota.

protias
04-21-2010, 03:59 PM
I have a Code Alarm 6550 for my car.

category4
04-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Pistol holster in windshield so the thief knows the owber is packing and has it with them!!!

OpenRoad
04-21-2010, 06:12 PM
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/glock/glock_73215.jpg

ghause
04-21-2010, 07:04 PM
What kind of car? Some ECU upgrades (APR for VW Audi) let you disable the ignition system by coding with the turn signal stalk.

swarga
04-22-2010, 01:31 PM
1 - Eyemax DVST-GN-704JLC Mobile DVR Unit
4 - Eyemax MBC-M170 Cameras (One behind Rearview mirror facing out front windshield, one focused on driver door, one focused on passenger door, on focused out back window)
1- Stealth installed microphone


And what's the point of this stuff? Do you want whoever steals your car to get a bunch of cool electronic goodies as well? Because if they steal your car, the DVR will be gone, too, and any images it might have recorded will be useless to you.



1- Escort Entourage CIS w/GPS Recovery and Monitoring Service


This is probably the best item on your list. You want something that notifies you directly when something happens so you can run outside with your Glock and handle the situation.



Possibly a Viper 5902 Responder HD Color SuperCode SST 2-Way Security and Remote Start System w/:
Audio Glass Break Sensor
Digital Tilt Motion Sensor
Backup Battery System
Backup Battery Siren


Another huge waste of money. The only thing an audible alarm is good for is annoying your neighbors. Think back to the last time you heard a car alarm go off - what was your first thought? Was it "Oh noes! Somebody's car is being stolen! Quick, let me call 911!!" Somehow I doubt that it was. If you called the police at all, it was probably to report an annoying loud noise. :D



I won't be in the nicest area for school and the thieves know that the people that go to the school have a lot of electronics and valuables and will be in school for long periods of time. I will be at school 6-7 days a week around 8 hours per day with classes at all times of the day. I can have class at 8AM, I can have class at 11PM depending on what classes I have for that period. I do not want to risk anything happening to my car and not end up losing everything.

It only took those guys 10 minutes to steal my dad's truck so I can't risk anything with my car.


Did you ever see that Patrick Swayze movie Road House (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098206/)? His character is a bouncer who owns this really nice Mercedes sedan, but he leaves it parked in the garage and drives a beater to work because he knows that the scumbags he throws out of these bars are going to retaliate by trashing his car.



Money will not be an object on this


In that case, do what Swayze did and buy yourself an expendable daily driver that nobody wants to steal and has no sign of any valuables inside. Combine that with something like the Entourage which will send you a text message or call you on your cell phone when someone is messing with your car and you're good to go. Leave your nice car at home in the garage; drive it on the weekends and/or only to "safe" places. That's what I do - I have a C6 Corvette, but I drive an old Civic to work. The Corvette stays safe in the garage unless I am going somewhere where I know it won't be messed with. :thumb2:

mfcool45
04-22-2010, 03:26 PM
can't be loaded while on school property:rolleyes:

Woodscolby
04-22-2010, 04:15 PM
In that case, do what Swayze did and buy yourself an expendable daily driver that nobody wants to steal and has no sign of any valuables inside. Combine that with something like the Entourage which will send you a text message or call you on your cell phone when someone is messing with your car and you're good to go. Leave your nice car at home in the garage; drive it on the weekends and/or only to "safe" places. That's what I do - I have a C6 Corvette, but I drive an old Civic to work. The Corvette stays safe in the garage unless I am going somewhere where I know it won't be messed with. :thumb2:

That's one thing my dad suggested a few weeks ago while we were looking at apartments. Buy myself another car to drive to school and leave my Acura in the garage at the gated complex. I'd prefer to keep this as my last option as I don't want to have to deal with 2 cars while I'm at school. I looked up Florida gun laws and will have one in my car in the car when I'm not at school. The DVR would be bolted down in the car in a hidden place and would be for more just smash and grab situations. If the car is stolen, then it's stolen. I don't expect to get anything back but hopefully would be able to locate it before it is completely stripped.

TRun
04-22-2010, 04:50 PM
For a low tech solution just turn the car into a garbage dump. Leave every fast food wrapper on the floor, throw empty containers in the backseat, moldy cupholder, and more more more trash. That way they wouldnt wanna be caught dead in that filth:cool::D

The Chariot
04-22-2010, 07:00 PM
Lots of GPS tracking solutions out there more reasonable than Escorts. You can even do it for free with a cheap cell phone hardwired into a charger so its always charged up and will run for a couple of days if they disconnect the battery. Software and web sites out there for the free GPS tracking. Just get a cheap pay-per-use cell phone and you end up paying about $4-$5 per month instead of $15-25 and your up front costs are about $50 verses $350+.

Jstglockem
04-22-2010, 07:56 PM
It seems like it would be cheaper to just get and extra cell phone and leave it in the car. The car goes google where the cell phone is and be done. Car alarms are a huge waist of money. Anyone that wants your vehicle is going to take it.

The Chariot
04-22-2010, 07:57 PM
X2 about if they want it they'll take it. Professionals even bring cell and lo-jack jammers.

kpatz
04-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Wire a security system up to disable the ignition, and if a thief tries to start the car, after a couple of attempts, have it deploy the airbag in his face. :D

Instead of disabling the starter, disable the fuel pump or ignition so the car cranks but doesn't fire up. The cranking sound is more likely to attract attention than silence when the key is turned/car is hotwired.

Install more than one kill switch. Make one easy to find so the thief thinks they're home free. Hide the other really well, to frustrate the thief (and the repeated attempts to start will gain attention, if the engine cranks).

As an alternative to allowing the car to crank/not fire, have it blow the horn when the thief tries to engage the starter. Another great way to attract attention. This could be done by using a SPDT switch on the starter wire from the ignition switch. In one position, it engages the starter relay, in the other position, it engages the horn relay. ;)

Of course, all my suggestions are (mostly) tongue in cheek...

TRun
04-22-2010, 08:16 PM
Even better if your fuse panel is easily accessible take out some critical fuses like the fuel pump and keep those on you.

andycj7
04-22-2010, 09:24 PM
X2 for a remote fuel shutoff switch. Just hide the switch somewhere near your drivers side and shut the fuel pump off everytime you lock your car up. Also, it's an easy, cheap install! :)

kpatz
04-23-2010, 06:57 AM
I just came up with another (semi tongue in cheek) idea, if you drive a model of car that is regularly stolen, and every thief "knows how to" hotwire it...

1. Disconnect all the wires from the ignition switch in the steering column.

2. Relocate them to another spot in the car, and install another ignition switch in that location, hidden from view. Wire up a starter button to this switch that can be reached from the driver's seat.

3. To drive the car normally, instead of inserting your key into the usual spot, you'd install it into the alternative ignition switch and turn it on. Then get into the seat and push the starter button to start the engine.

4. Wire up the original ignition switch so if the thief shorts them together in an attempt to hotwire the car, have it blow the horn and/or fire the driver's side airbag. Use the same kind of wires/harnesses as the original so the thief just sees the usual ignition wires when he breaks up the steering column.

I guess you would also need a way to shut the car off without having to crawl under the dash to turn your hidden ignition switch off. Perhaps a kill button near the starter button would do the trick.

Or, for a car that's equipped with a keyless ignition, install a regular ignition key switch in the expected location and wire it up as in #4 above. A thief will target this and get a nice surprise. ;)

radarrob
04-23-2010, 07:17 AM
heck if they want it they will tow it!,no matter what you got installed.

voyager7
04-23-2010, 07:46 AM
X2 for a remote fuel shutoff switch. Just hide the switch somewhere near your drivers side and shut the fuel pump off everytime you lock your car up. Also, it's an easy, cheap install! :)

X3 on the fuel pump.

<<JAZZY>>
04-23-2010, 09:51 AM
Check out post #7 in this link:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/valentine-one/44399-houston-v1-stolen-carrabas-i10.html

Woodscolby
04-23-2010, 12:42 PM
Check out post #7 in this link:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/valentine-one/44399-houston-v1-stolen-carrabas-i10.html

Thank you for showing me this. They are in my area too. I'll drop the Viper system idea and replace that with a Ravelco, then I'll pair it with the Entourage CIS. It's very reasonably priced and definitely worth it for me. I still want to add the camera system for the car just so I have constant video recording at all times.

sniper4usmc
04-23-2010, 08:57 PM
how about Pedal Lock,whee,tire clawl lock like "THE CLUB":confused:

swarga
04-23-2010, 10:43 PM
Heh! If car thieves really recognize that Ravelco thing and run away from it, maybe I'll just install a round MIL SPEC (http://www.amphenol-aerospace.com/pdf/12-071.pdf) connector in my dash as a placebo. :D

Batman
04-27-2010, 11:48 AM
I have the Escort Entourage CIS and I do not recommend it. The locating sensitivity is weak and it does not have geo fencing which automatically alerts you if the car leaves an area or returns to an area.

It's good for locating your car, but not very good at tracking your car.

The Zoombak is cheaper and better. I wish I had bought that instead. One of my friends has a zoombak and I borrowed it and can tell you from experience it is much better.