Allergic to Virginia

[Texan]

-being vent- Am I the only one on here that intentionally plans their trips to avoid the entire state of Virginia. I was going to Washington, Dc and could not bring myself to enter that state so I decided to tack on some extra time and cut through West Virginia. All my experiences in Virginia have been negative and their leo's are extremely obnoxious and have a nice Napoleonic Complex going on. -vent over-

[kpatz]

Good idea. That state doesn't deserve your money.

I wonder if the VA Chamber of Commerce website has any feedback/complaint forms on it that you could submit your reasons for NOT visiting that lousy excuse for a state. :p

[nine_c1]

"The reason why I shot ya down is that you were 100 over the posted State Limit. And is that a radar warning device on the dash in there? I'm gonna have to sight you for that as well. You in a heap a trouble son!"

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[Monte1]

-being vent- Am I the only one on here that intentionally plans their trips to avoid the entire state of Virginia. I was going to Washington, Dc and could not bring myself to enter that state so I decided to tack on some extra time and cut through West Virginia. All my experiences in Virginia have been negative and their leo's are extremely obnoxious and have a nice Napoleonic Complex going on. -vent over-

So by avoiding Virginia you end up at your final destination of Wash., DC which is exactly like VA with their RD laws. :confused::confused:

I'm thinkin' that time could have been saved driving entirely through VA at 5-10 mph BELOW the psl as opposed to the WVA route.:eek:

[SpeedUp]

Yea avoid driving through Hellginia at all costs. If you do have to drive through it don't purchase gas there either. As far as the DC comment goes, Metro DC Police do not use the Spectre/ do not cite for having a radar detector even though they are banned. I have friends who blatantly leave them in their windshield and the police have never looked at them twice. DC cops have more important things to attend to rather then writing tickets for RD's unlike Virginia cops.

[kpatz]

Also, isn't it pretty much impossible to speed in DC in the first place, due to all the traffic? Seems like an RD ban there is a moot point.

I would avoid VA, even if it made the trip longer, just out of principle. That way their gestapo can't harass me, and I won't contribute a penny toward their economy either. ;) If I have to buy gas or food, I'd do it in one of the neighboring states.

[Monte1]

Also, isn't it pretty much impossible to speed in DC in the first place, due to all the traffic? Seems like an RD ban there is a moot point.


No, you can speed anywhere. It depends on the street, area, time of day, and type of road traveled. A RD is never a moot point as long as some LEO is sitting on his Harley or in the car pointing radar or laser at you...and they do.

I lived in northern VA for 20 years and was in DC almost every day or night. I have a little feel for the place. Do I despise VA police for being idiots and having the reputation they do?? ABSOLUTELY since I was the recipient of their "gifts" about 4 different times pre-RD ownership. But I certainly wouldn't circumnavigate the entire state on a trip out of fear of being ticketed because I wanted to "stomp it" and would do it elsewhere because I had a RD.

If I ever have to go fairly far north which requires going through the state of New York, I think I'll avoid it at all costs and drive a gazillion miles if I have to just because I can't stand the song "New York, New York" sung by Frank Sinatra or anyone else. Hmmm...now it all makes sense to me.

[Texan]

Lol, Dc is a different story, for one its traffic is just so horrendous its basically impossible to speed, I mean its a major urban area so there are almost no "highways" other than 395 which is so short.

[Monte1]

Lol, Dc is a different story, for one its traffic is just so horrendous its basically impossible to speed, I mean its a major urban area so there are almost no "highways" other than 395 which is so short.

You might say that as a tourist or short timer there, but there are plenty of places to speed and times of the day or night to do it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten stopped the 3 times that I did for speeding. Fortunately, I never got ticketed...unlike what would have happened in the city or Alexandria or Fairfax County.

[Texan]

You might say that as a tourist or short timer there, but there are plenty of places to speed and times of the day or night to do it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten stopped the 3 times that I did for speeding. Fortunately, I never got ticketed...unlike what would have happened in the city or Alexandria or Fairfax County.
I say that out of my years of living there and my constant travel through the area. If you speed in Dc then you should be arrested for reckless driving because it is truly reckless to drive over the PSL considering the amount of pedestrians the frequent the area.

[Monte1]

You might say that as a tourist or short timer there, but there are plenty of places to speed and times of the day or night to do it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten stopped the 3 times that I did for speeding. Fortunately, I never got ticketed...unlike what would have happened in the city or Alexandria or Fairfax County.
I say that out of my years of living there and my constant travel through the area. If you speed in Dc then you should be arrested for reckless driving because it is truly reckless to drive over the PSL considering the amount of pedestrians the frequent the area.

Pedestrians are right in the tourist areas with all of the museums, monuments, statues, Federal buildings etc. DC has the NE, NW, SE, and SW with all kinds of different areas that don't necessarily have many pedestrians, many of which are like any other city.

Big cities are big cities that sprawl. Some have little if any pedestrians out in the sprawl. DC sprawls more than most people realize. It's not confined to just the White house and Capitol area. I guess you never went roaring down M street, Wisconsin Ave, Connecticut Ave. or many others after all the tourists and barhoppers went home. I guess you never went flying on Rock Creek Parkway or across the 14th street bridge or around Memorial bridge when it was free from pedestrians. You probably never hauled a$$ through any residential areas leading up to Takoma Park, Bethesda and Silver Spring.

If no tickets are ever given in DC for speeding, then I guess no tickets are given in ANY big city for the same reason even though they may in fact be more congested. Let me know what city that might be.

[SpeedUp]

Speeding in DC now is next to impossible with all the speed cameras unless you're covering up your plate and that's a fact. Times have changed in DC big time speeding isn't too easy to get away with with the speed cameras everywhere.

[gyrate]

-being vent- Am I the only one on here that intentionally plans their trips to avoid the entire state of Virginia. I was going to Washington, Dc and could not bring myself to enter that state so I decided to tack on some extra time and cut through West Virginia. All my experiences in Virginia have been negative and their leo's are extremely obnoxious and have a nice Napoleonic Complex going on. -vent over-

You are not alone.

Add NC to that list too though.

[Monte1]

Speeding in DC now is next to impossible with all the speed cameras unless you're covering up your plate and that's a fact. Times have changed in DC big time speeding isn't too easy to get away with with the speed cameras everywhere.

There are still plenty of places without speed cameras where LEOs do their thing and a RD would produce saves. One of which is East Potomac Park at Hains Point. It's a favorite recreational area and place to walk when the weather is great or around Cherry Blossom time. Families and individuals go there for many activities such as picnics, tennis, miniature golf, 36 holes of golf, walking along the Potomac River, or just lazing around. The road runs for a good few miles out along the river along one side of the golf course, makes a horseshoe turn at the point and comes back on the other side of the golf course.

I played golf there a minimum of 4 times a week and observed MANY LEO traps on motorcycles pulling vehicles over that exceeded the 25 mph limit. And then one time at dusk as I was leaving the course got stopped myself when a LEO was camaflouged off to the side in a grassy area with trees. He let me go.

Another time I was driving through the city up 13th street which goes all the way through DC in the middle of residential areas with 4 lanes to Takoma Park, MD. There are no tourists and hardly any pedestrians in the area, that is unless they were looking for some excitement to run from a mugging. DC wouldn't even bother with red light cameras there either. But they were running radar. Got pulled over again. They let me go.

Another time around the Embassies.

The moral to the story is you don't have to be doing big time speeding and there aren't pedestrians and tourists all throughout DC...especially around Anacostia or other parts in the SE.:eek::eek: It could be an innocuous Park, GW Parkway, residential area, right at the end of the 14th street bridge coming from VA or any place. There are PLENTY of places to exceed the PSL. I know...I found them. If you knew DC inside and out and were on all of the streets and highways around it, you'd know that. It isn't just Pennsylvania Avenue, Constitution Ave, Georgetown, or 14th street that comprises Wash., DC with all of the lights and tourists, it's over 68 square miles.

Washington DC - #2 in the nation for speed traps. http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/12/1208.asp

City #7 is listed as Fritterville.