8500 x50 own's the night

[MarshVegas]

My escort 8500 X-50 OWN'S THE NIGHT Hands down winner!!!!!
I'm sorry but it can't be any better Don't need any better everybody allways V1 V1 I don't know cause i never ran a V1 but i'll tell ya my x-50 ain't no slouch

[North Alabama]

If I were you, I would find some wood and knock on it! Don't brag, your going to get hit solid with I/O or laser and we will all here you on this site asking how to beat a $$$ ticket! Do not count your chickens before they are hatched, still to soon in the game! Good luck, happy motoring!

[MarshVegas]

I/O could toast anybody (IF) they ain't paying attention I just had to brag a little nobody talks up the old 8500 anymore and she still knocks m dead o and laser got that covered M-27 TESTED Passed flying colors

[Ray]

They are awesome RD's. To my understanding, their performance are very similar or the same as the RX65 which I have been running with for three years now. But, don't get over confident with it or any other countermeasure. You absolutely must use one of your best countermeasures which are your eyes! Since you're on this board, which is a big plus, you probably already know that. Take care, be safe.

[supercowpowers]

I/O could toast anybody (IF) they ain't paying attention

At night, realistically, your field of vision is only the few degrees to the side and the few hundred feet ahead of your car that your headlights illuminate. The cop, however, just has to aim for your headlights, which are helpfully visible the whole way to the horizon.

I/O is difficult enough to deal with in the daytime; at night you're only lucky if you can beat it without getting an alert first. I did it exactly one time, and that was because the cop was in a parking lot that had lights.

[Arvetus]

IO at night is a killer. I have been able to beat it when traveling on a road with at least 1 car in front of me about 1/2 - 3/4 mile or so. I have also been nailed with IO at night being the only car on the road at 2am. I did get let off, but I was lucky. I don't know if he saw that I really was just tired after getting in late from a delayed flight and trying to get home to go to bed and be up by 6 to go to work, or if he was playing the game with me and knew that I knew he was hiding there because when I came around the curve and my Ka went full on, I dimmed my lights out of courtesy. Either way, it was a lucky break for me, and a reminder that IO at night is deadly, especially if you're the only car on the road. The x50 is a fine detector, I've used one, but it doesn't matter what detector you use, if you don't keep your wits about you, any detector can be rendered useless, and not necessarily by the fact that it won't alert you.

[protias]

Any RD can miss a QT shot. Here are some examples:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/radar-detectors-general/65282-qt-ka-34-7-a.html

[Won Hunglo]

My escort 8500 X-50 OWN'S THE NIGHT Hands down winner!!!!!
I'm sorry but it can't be any better Don't need any better everybody allways V1 V1 I don't know cause i never ran a V1 but i'll tell ya my x-50 ain't no slouch

Nuff said.

[MarshVegas]

I meant the winner against LEO's. :p I know the V1 is Awesome, sorry zombies

[protias]

It is a decent detector, but there are far better ones out there. ;)

[MarshVegas]

yah i'm kicking around getting somthing new in the very near furture either a redline or even maybe a V1 . We'll see if something new hits the scene in 2011

[Akosikojak]

It is a decent detector, but there are far better ones out there. ;)

Agree, it's all about increasing our odds of picking up the RADAR. A top on the line RD usually has a much better success rate vs the lower ends. Not saying the 8500 x50 (I ran one for about 2 years) is a slouch either but it ain't the best.

[MarshVegas]

now members have said the area you mostly travel has alot to do with determining which RD would work best . Being i live in the NE just off cape cod lots of stores (falses) i like the easy mute on my 8500 X-50 not to sure if i would like the lock-out feature on the 9500ix + i dont have redlght cameras or speed cams to worry about so i dont think i need the GPS feature I see alot of you guy started w/a 8500 and moved up to redline's or V1's lets see if you guys can sway me one way or the other what do you all suggest .

[protias]

My V1 usually alerts before my Redline.

[takeshi]

I meant the winner against LEO's. :p I know the V1 is Awesome, sorry zombies
No need to apologize to V1 fans. Any statement that says "It can't be better than X even though I've never tried Y" just discredits the person saying that.

[rocky2]

My V1 usually alerts before my Redline.

Because you run them both together.

[protias]

My V1 usually alerts before my Redline.

Because you run them both together.

I've run them separately to just to make sure. V1 and STi-R usually alert together. So I've turned my V1 off and run just the STi-R and Redline and STi-R usually alerts before the Redline. I do need a K band, 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5 gun to do futher testing. I just wish I had that kind of money so I could just get this over with and show what I mean.

[MarshVegas]

I meant the winner against LEO's. :p I know the V1 is Awesome, sorry zombies
No need to apologize to V1 fans. Any statement that says "It can't be better than X even though I've never tried Y" just discredits the person saying that.Your not understanding what i said MY X-50 owne's the night against police trying to stalk their pray didn't mean to start this V1 vs any other detector SMARTEN UP

[JCT1875]

I meant the winner against LEO's. :p I know the V1 is Awesome, sorry zombies
No need to apologize to V1 fans. Any statement that says "It can't be better than X even though I've never tried Y" just discredits the person saying that.Your not understanding what i said MY X-50 owne's the night against police trying to stalk their pray didn't mean to start this V1 vs any other detector SMARTEN UP

I've owned the X-50...and it definitely does not "own the night". It's mediocre at best, and the quality is crap. Best thing on it was the pretty blue lights :)

[Event Horizon]

I sold my X50 for V1 a long while ago but I miss it. I miss the SPEC display, the nice lights, hi tech looking, and MOST of all.. has the best KA sound ever (set to loud!)

[JCT1875]

I sold my X50 for V1 a long while ago but I miss it. I miss the SPEC display, the nice lights, hi tech looking, and MOST of all.. has the best KA sound ever (set to loud!)

Owner of a V1 and previous owner of an X-50, spec display was nice (ka), but I live for situational awareness. To be honest, V1's laser alert (sound) is the weakest I've ever heard, very slow, very off-beat, yet loud. The X-50's laser alert was loud, abrupt, and piercing enough to awaken the dead...that's when the X-50's laser alert wasn't going off more than 5 times every 2 minutes. There's many horror stories about the X-50 on the internet, I personally lived through it. Same with the V985 and the speaker going out two years into ownership. Belscort, the quality in general, after 2-3 years of ownership, deteriorates. It may be great at first, but doesn't last like a V1. Purchased the Redline, just to get a feel, and returned it. Probably the best quality RD that Belscort has ever made, just too many glitches.

As for V1's ka alert, I love the "double brap", total sweetness.

[fire65]

I felt that way about my X50 blue, UNTIL I got a V1. X50 is a good RD, but it will not match the V1. But I still have it for backup.

[Hahns5.2]

I love my S7 X50.

Lot's of 35.5 around here so I won't be trading it for a V1.

[protias]

V1 is far better than the X50. ;)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/staged-real-world-tests.html

[Hahns5.2]

V1 is far better than the X50. ;)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/staged-real-world-tests.html
I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5, especially off axis.

Either way I'm not spending twice as much for superficial gains. I've run a V1 of a friends and didn't see any reason to upgrade.

[protias]

V1 is far better than the X50. ;)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/staged-real-world-tests.html
I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5, especially off axis.

Either way I'm not spending twice as much for superficial gains. I've run a V1 of a friends and didn't see any reason to upgrade.

Even though the evidence shows the V1 is better than the X50, you say it is superficial gains? /facepalm

Don't say I didn't warn you.

[Hahns5.2]

V1 is far better than the X50. ;)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/staged-real-world-tests.html
I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5, especially off axis.

Either way I'm not spending twice as much for superficial gains. I've run a V1 of a friends and didn't see any reason to upgrade.

Even though the evidence shows the V1 is better than the X50, you say it is superficial gains? /facepalm

Don't say I didn't warn you.
By superficial I mean if I'm already detecting at 2.5+ mile ranges, what good is another mile going to do for me?

Sorry I don't spend thousands of dollars to outfit my truck like a military helicopter.

I don't think anyone here ever said the X50 was better than the V1. But damn I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5..

[MarshVegas]

I've see a lot of video on here and on youtube and my older refurb escort 8500 x-50 performs just as good . Their may be some horror stories with a bad x-50 but that's like saying everyone with tattoos are criminals. I'm happy with it and that's all that matters! I just bought a new video camera ,i'm learning how to use it. i'll be posting video's soon to show everyone :)

[hiddencam]

V1 is far better than the X50. ;)

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-detector-test-august-2009/staged-real-world-tests.html
Yup.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/355.gif

[hiddencam]

I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5, especially off axis.
The V1 dominates on 35.5 unless it's significantly off-axis, at which point it's weakness comes into play.


I'm not spending twice as much for superficial gains.
"Superficial gains" isn't accurate. As the chart shows, the difference is significant.

My 8500 (S7) pales in comparison to my V1 on all bands. My upgrade from the 8500 to the V1 was entirely worth it.

[MarshVegas]

those aren't real life scenarios and even then the gains are very superficial

[hiddencam]

By superficial I mean if I'm already detecting at 2.5+ mile ranges, what good is another mile going to do for me?
It's often the difference between getting a ticket and not.


Sorry I don't spend thousands of dollars to outfit my truck like a military helicopter.
400 dollars is exceptional value for what you get.

I swear I remember reading the V1 was awful against 35.5
You were reading trash talk written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. The V1 does have a weakness on off-axis 35.5, but that doesn't equate to generally "awful" on that band. The Redline beats the V1 with off-axis 35.5, but the V1 is excellent on 35.5 otherwise.

[hiddencam]

those aren't real life scenarios and even then the gains are very superficialIf you're talking about GOL testing, you do realize that they're using Eccosorb:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-2007/foambox.jpg

Please remember: what these test results provide is an indication of "relative sensitivity", or how the detectors might compare against themselves or each other. Just like any other radar detector test (foam or not), the absolute distances in the results cannot be applied to any situation other than the specific test conditions. In this test, just like any other, it's the ratios that matter.
MarshVegas (http://www.radardetector.net/forums/member.php?u=18339), Don't settle on that opinion you've got; it can be improved! :)

[supercowpowers]

Just because 2.5 miles of range is adequate in a perfect scenario doesn't mean you can't use more. Greater sensitivity, which can seem superfluous against C/O on a dead straight and flat road, might be the difference that gives you any warning against a cop parked up on an entrance ramp shooting away from your direction of travel in a hilly area.