New mode with V1

[4Runner]

I have purchased a V1 last week, ordered it on 3/24. I have posted the firmware version earlier here http://www.radardetector.net/What-software-version-do-you-have-on-your-V1-657t.php

Upon further checking out the unit I noticed that there is a new programming feature after the J feature, which is “u”. By default the arrow ahead is on when I change it to the arrow behind and switch the unit off, and back on it says “E u r” and of course P o P. Instead of A mode it now has 2 different modes a big U and small u. There was no mention of this in the manual, so I don’t know what these modes are for. I thought I would let everyone in this forum know.

[happya$$]

Nice April Fools joke buddy

[happya$$]

On mine after "J" there is a "K". When I called VR they told me that "K" stood for Killer. THey told me that it would fry ANY detector that leaked.

[4Runner]

Its no joke here are the pictures of the big U and small u
http://img163.exs.cx/img163/3623/bigu4hy.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img163.exs.cx/img163/5840/smallu7gf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

I was hurt when I try and inform the community with what is new. I will try and post some videos to show the startup and firmware to.

[happya$$]

Wow I guess you are telling the truth my apologies

[happya$$]

Maybe it reduces K band falses or it is sometype of European setting

[4Runner]

here are some link to the videos
1 of them shows start up
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODU2MzE1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D


and the other shows firmware version

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODU2MzE2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

I was thinking maybe it’s an international mode E u r short for Europe. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[V1 Dave]

Wow we have a new version. Funny how they just updated the VR program guide and not only skipped this U code but also skipped the sequential numbers 3.819 to 3.820
Looks like we have a new European setting.
Everyone is getting ready for those June detector Olympics.
4 Runner, Run your serial number on upgrades to see what it says.

[fallen8511]

I would imagine it has something to do with KU band?

[4Runner]

I did after I first got it and again today this it what is says:
V1 Description: Radar circuitry known in-house as V1.8—POP2. This is our latest and best performer on both radar and laser.

Upgrade Recommendation: You already have our best.

[nvr2fast]

E U R? That would imply something specific to Europe?!

[timish]

Looks like our first Radar Detector "Easter Egg"!!

Good find!

[BiGeAsYgUy]

I have the V1.8 POP1 with software version 3.817 and V1 offers a free upgrade to the POP2 with version 3.818. Do you think they will give me the 3.818 when I update or the 3.821 with these extra functions like 4RUNNER has??

[Brent_Vino]

this is why i didnt send my V1 in for any POP upgrade... its too early in the game to be messing about with sending your v1 off every 3 or 4 months.. valentine has a few more updates to release before i am sending it in. think of it as buying a 1st year production car.

[sethy]

Well I dont really think the new update truely does anything other then change the L, and A to a u and a big U.

Brent, don't you want to send in your v1 before summer time when all the other detectors will be on the road? I've seen my J feature used about 6 times this week.

[compu44]

Maybe Valentine's adding a feature to kill out everything except photoradar and laser. Or possibly something to detect the 9GHz variation of X band?

[brick]

Maybe they've been reading our threads about narrow-band Ka for photoradar.

Honestly, the best way to get this question answered is to call VR. They ought to be more than happy to tell you what's going on. (They'll also probably tell you not to mess with it, which is what they always tell me :lol: ).

[marlinspike]

Here's what V1 e-mailed to me

As for the new firmware, Version 3.821 is strictly for European customers; it can be programmed to scan specific frequencies in order to enhance the detector's photo radar response.

[happya$$]

So what did they email you?

[marlinspike]

So what did they email you?



As for the new firmware, Version 3.821 is strictly for European customers; it can be programmed to scan specific frequencies in order to enhance the detector's photo radar response.

[nvr2fast]

Um... okay... and how do customers select those frequencies?

[marlinspike]

I dunno, I'm not in Europe so they didn't tell me.
Richard

[SmaartAasSaabr]

You are now, Monsieur Transitoire de Marlin... go find out what's the deal! :lol:

[marlinspike]

You are now, Monsieur Transitoire de Marlin... go find out what's the deal! :lol:

Well, I'm not, but my "friend from England is" and I'm finding out what it's about for him (since it doesn't make sense for him to ask as I've already sent and e-mail about it once).
Richard

[brick]

Marlinspike, do you get relatively quick email responses from them? I keep asking questions and VR keeps ignoring me. I still want to know what the "factory test" thing does, even if it's totally useless to me. Maybe it's a conspiracy :shock: . Or they don't care because I'm not waving money at them.

[marlinspike]

Marlinspike, do you get relatively quick email responses from them? I keep asking questions and VR keeps ignoring me. I still want to know what the "factory test" thing does, even if it's totally useless to me. Maybe it's a conspiracy :shock: . Or they don't care because I'm not waving money at them.

I think I sent this e-mail out to them on Thursday. I'd say 2 working days is par for the course. I use the e-mail form, not direct e-mail.
Richard

[Veil Guy]

Did they decide to incorporate any of our suggestions I wonder? If there was some recent change, I am not surprised because the version we had felt like it was "transitional" in nature.

I'll give a call and I'll share what I have been told...

The Veil Guy 8)

[Brent_Vino]

Well I dont really think the new update truely does anything other then change the L, and A to a u and a big U.

Brent, don't you want to send in your v1 before summer time when all the other detectors will be on the road? I've seen my J feature used about 6 times this week.

negative... my V1 is fine. until it starts to false or fail me in some way, no need to do anything till 1.9 comes out or when they fine tune with POP3 or better.

[Allengts]

Dear Sir:

Thanks for your email. There nothing major that I know of in the pipeline right now. The "U" icon is for Euro Mode activation.
This is only for some European countries, as it narrows and intensifies radar coverage and limits it to K and sections of Ka
that are used in Europe for photo radar.

Cordially,

Pete Kaufman
Sales Department


This what v1 told me

[Veil Guy]

I got an indication from them in one of my earlier phone calls to them that this impending feature would approximate the performance of Ka Int'l versus Ka USA on the Bel RX65 Pro.

I suspect this firmware was, in fact, a make good on their statements.

In otherwords, the BEL unit had a functional capability that the V1 did not.

The Veil Guy 8)

[jimbonzzz]

I got an indication from them in one of my earlier phone calls to them that this impending feature would approximate the performance of Ka Int'l versus Ka USA on the Bel RX65 Pro.

I suspect this firmware was, in fact, a make good on their statements.

In otherwords, the BEL unit had a functional capability that the V1 did not.

The Veil Guy 8)


As I understand it, people have been advised by BEL that when the RX-65 is in the "USA" setting, it only scans for 3 frequencies in the Ka band: 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5 GHz which are the most common Ka freqs in the USA (BEE, Stalker, Genesis II). This is supposably the same as BEL's former "Accusweep" feature. And that when in the "INTL" setting, it supposably sweeps the whole 33.4-36 GHz range just like other detectors -normally- do.

Most of the US users have been setting it to "INTL" as there has been some speculation that without the full sweep, it could miss some versions of the Stalker on different freqs.

The international users need a -narrower- sweep for better warning on photo radar. However, the "Intl" setting in the RX-65 wouldn't be good for international users wanting more performance on photo radar, because it sweeps the whole range instead of a "narrow" mode. And with the narrower sweep in the "USA" mode, they would completely miss the photo radar freqs.

On the other hand, in some of BEL's international detectors such as the BEL 990 International , the "Accusweep" feature sweeps these three frequencies: 33.8, 34.3, 34.6 GHz. The difference is no Stalker, but it adds the 34.3 GHz freq for Multanova and TMT-6F photo radar.

So more than likely, Valentine is not adding functionality like the RX65, which provides no advantage for European users for photo radar etc, and has a "narrow" mode for US use that is seldom used by US users.

They're probably adding functionality more like the 990 International, which contains such things as the 9GHz X-band frequencies, and an "Accusweep" mode that sweeps the photo radar freqs.


Jim

[Veil Guy]

Interesting Jim.

The Veil Guy 8)

[V1 Dave]

Responce from VR on U mode:
The U icon stands for Euro mode, which is for Europe only.
This mode narrows and intensifies radar coverage and limits it to K and the sections of Ka bands used in Europe for photo radar.
It should not be used in the US.

[sethy]

Why would they put a europe mode on the V1 if they dont even sell overseas?

[happya$$]

It is called Ebay

[marlinspike]

Comign soon (few minutes) the full story on euro mode (a pdf file from Valentine, but since I have nowhere to post pdf's I'll convert it to a photo).
Richard

[SmaartAasSaabr]

send the pdf to me, i'll upload it. - motorists [at] gmail.com -

[marlinspike]

Ok, the moment you've been waiting for
http://Davidson.smugmug.com/photos/19078450-O.jpg
http://Davidson.smugmug.com/photos/19078451-O.jpg

[4Runner]

Marlinspike - Where did you get that file from?

[marlinspike]

They e-mailed it to me.

[4Runner]

Valentine does take its sweet long time to update their website. I guess they do not want the competition to know what the latest features that they have.

[Ghost]

Heh, that would be pretty poor logic. Your competition will find out your features because they will exert more research into it. Joe Schmoe consumer will look at your site, see nothing about Ku detection, then look elsewhere for a RD.

Or, if your comment was made in jest... my bad. :) It's hard to tell when you've just got text to read.

[brick]

Or it's a marketing ploy. Maybe they hope that other manufacturers will spend loads of $$$$ buying V1s to back engineer. :shock:

[Seven]

Wow Marlin!
I've emailed Valentine about a upgrade, but I really need to know if the new firmware works or not?
As you can guess I'm from overseas and Multanova are rife here! Currently my V1 8.316 gives warnings at the photo radar, or sometimes before. It would be good to get a good forewarning.

Cheers

[Crash]

Mike told me about this upgrade a while ago. It WILL help with photo radar performance.

[nvr2fast]

but then u lose all the normal detection... right?

[Crash]

but then u lose all the normal detection... right?

You´re good to go in most of Europe, save for perhaps Sweden (american laser guns) and Bulgaria which uses X-band. It will have the same performance as the Bel 966, only with more style (magnesium, bling-bling).

[nvr2fast]

Actually, the thing i would be worried about is if Multanova shift their frequency. For example, they use 34.3 +/- .100 now, but all they have to do is go to 25.0 or 26.0 +/- .100 and all the radars out there designed to detect photo radar "specifically" would be instantly screwed...

or perhaps i'm not understanding right?

[Crash]

Actually, the thing i would be worried about is if Multanova shift their frequency. For example, they use 34.3 +/- .100 now, but all they have to do is go to 25.0 or 26.0 +/- .100 and all the radars out there designed to detect photo radar "specifically" would be instantly screwed...

or perhaps i'm not understanding right?

No, they can´t just "change the setting". It´s designed to operate at 34.36 +-100 kHz. Nothing to worry about.

[4Runner]

A couple of days ago I emailed VR to try and get the pdf that marlinspike got, but they did not send it. They basicaly said that this was the new Euro mode and if your in the US not to use it.

[nvr2fast]

So everyone who buys a new V1 gets this mysterious "EUR" version now? Or do you have to specifically ask for it?

[4Runner]

Well YES - I think it is a part of their newest firmware, (they might have a newer version now) you have to manually turn it on for it to be in the EUR mode. If you never go in the programming mode then you will never see it.

[nvr2fast]

ah HA we should ask Mike himself, since he is now here :D