9500i vs STi Driver vs. RX65 vs V1

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I would estimate the additional risk of getting a ticket using the 9500i vs. the V1 to be around 100%. It may be higher, but the risk in my opinion is at least double.

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Actually it’s completely the opposite (im exaggerating like the above). There is allot higher risk of getting a ticket from a V1 than a 9500I.
A V1 will go off let’s say 20 times on your regular commute to work with X & K band. Obviously you will always analyze what you here and wait to see if the ramp up is different or see a LEO. you may also become numb to X band if there is no threat of X. so now your listing to see if its X band or K if its stronger, longer or multiple.
On the other hand out of those 20 falses the 9500I will only go off 2-3 times so now you can react instantly when it goes off. So the extra detection range is mute.
There is also the fact that you won’t feel over confident like people do with the V1. Extra sensitivity doesn’t always mean better detection/reaction time.

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The idea that a tiny CPU inside the 9500i can effective track and screen out multiple false bogies while only notifying you of the real threat is not realistic. Sooner or later, you are going to get nailed.

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Actually it’s not an unrealistic as you would think because it’s not just the CPU, it’s the combination of the CPU and horn. The useless off axis sensitivity passed 40 degrees (see Cosine effect http://copradar.com/preview/chapt4/ch4d1.html ) on the 9500I is very minimal so you weed out all those falses and not real LEO threats.

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But the idea that the 9500i somehow provides the lowest risk of ticket, and also the quietest ride, is something I do not believe

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The quiet ride is the key to the lowest risk just like having the longest detection range.

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The best solution for this is to turn off your detector

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Not a good idea, this is the most likely time that your speed will drift. I never need to turn off my 9500I I just use "A" mode if I want quiet.

Yes a 9500I will have 75% of a V1's range in some cases but you will react quicker with a quiet detector than what you will with a noisy one.

An anonymous quote from a V1 user that got a ticket:

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I would have been driving slower because I didn't get that same feeling of confidence with my 9500 and may have avoided the ticket all together.

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Let's get to the point. V1 is more sensitive than any other detector. Right? Right. Which means you will get your alert faster than any other detector, Right? Right! That's why I feel safer with V1 and not Belscort (which filters radar signal) And by the way, V1 is alerting to valid radar signals, they are REAL radar frequencies!!!

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Originally Posted by Serg

Let's get to the point. V1 is more sensitive than any other detector. Right? Right. Which means you will get your alert faster than any other detector, Right? Right! That's why I feel safer with V1 and not Belscort (which filters radar signal) And by the way, V1 is alerting to valid radar signals, they are REAL radar frequencies!!!

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i completley agree that the V1 is the most sensative, no question. just remember, when you feel safest is when you will get a ticket. :wink:

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Originally Posted by CJR238

The quiet ride is the key to the lowest risk just like having the longest detection range.

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It would be interesting if there were some way to actually test this. I do agree that having a sense of overconfidence could lead to a ticket, no matter what detector is in use.

My other question in considering the 9500i is since it is less sensitive, how many real alerts does it miss?

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Originally Posted by buntaro

It would be interesting if there were some way to actually test this. I do agree that having a sense of overconfidence could lead to a ticket, no matter what detector is in use.

My other question in considering the 9500i is since it is less sensitive, how many real alerts does it miss?

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Im going to pose your question “A way to measure the risk of ticket by detector” on a different thread and see if it can be calculated mathematically.

From my experience the 9500I never misses a real threat but will suppress extremely week signals that are off axis.

With a quiet detector there is nothing to react to.

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Originally Posted by CactusMan

With a quiet detector there is nothing to react to.

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a quiet detector is one that is not sensitivity. If I want a quiet detector I just do not drive with one

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Originally Posted by CJR238

The quiet ride is the key to the lowest risk just like having the longest detection range.

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Talk about a quiet ride! Having used my new 9500i for the last two weeks, I definitely have to agree with this. The more I use it, the more I realize that there is more stuff going on within the 9500i's signal processing circuits than I initially realized. I will explain in another thread. For the last week when I've made trips to town, its been my 9500i which goes up on the windshield rather than my STi. Why? Because my 9500i even in Highway mode is much quieter around town than my STi in Highway mode, yet my 9500i still manages to sniff out approaching police radar from exceptionally good distances -- every bit as well as my STi.

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Originally Posted by buntaro

It would be interesting if there were some way to actually test this. I do agree that having a sense of overconfidence could lead to a ticket, no matter what detector is in use.

My other question in considering the 9500i is since it is less sensitive, how many real alerts does it miss?

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Originally Posted by CJR238

Im going to pose your question “A way to measure the risk of ticket by detector” on a different thread and see if it can be calculated mathematically.

From my experience the 9500I never misses a real threat but will suppress extremely week signals that are off axis.

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According to GOL's August straight line sensitivity tests, the 9500i is only slightly less sensitive than the V1. So far my 9500i hasn't missed any real alerts, even while it was automatically filtering out weak K band door opener signals (the signals were NOT locked out), it started detecting a very weak approaching K band police radar from over a hill. I think it was the slowly rising K band police radar compared to the relatively constant filtered out K band door openers which suddenly tripped the 9500i's alert circuitry.

Yet the police radar encounter which I just described does bring up the overconfidence issue. A few days ago I nearly found out the hard way exactly what both of you are talking about. One very nice 9500i advantage over the V1 is the 9500i's Expert Meter display mode which shows you how many signals the 9500i is detecting on each radar band. This feature saved my butt earlier this week while I was on my way to Wal Mart. One city police department uses Ka band radar, yet the sheriff's department still uses older K band radar. Anyway, the Ka alert was fading rapidly and my 9500i was still alerting for Ka, yet I glanced up at the display in Expert mode and saw a strongly rising K band signal! Sure enough, approaching me was a sheriff's deputy running K band. All I had to do was stop accelerating to keep it within 10 of the PSL. Another couple of seconds and it would have been a different outcome. Since this encounter I make sure that my 9500i's display is in Expert Mode whenever I am in town. :)

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Originally Posted by buntaro

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Originally Posted by Virion

Extremely weird results. Just about every reviewer and poster on here comments on how "chatty" the V1 is. My V1 is alot more chatty in comparison to my STi. My STi is extremely quiet in the Washington, DC suburbs. While my STi is slightly better than my V1 on 35.5 ka, I find the V1's sensetivity unequalled across all bands.

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Agreed, the majority of posts hold the STi as less chatty than the V1, but that was not my experience. I'm in the Denver, CO area, so that could be a factor. Also, not sure what version of the V1 you have, so that may also be a factor?

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3.826 freshly tuned. If it were stealth, I would still be using it for one reason and that's arrows. I was able to test both detectors against both k and 35.5 ka extensively and my STi consistantly gave me longer range, albeit negligible. My V1 gave me significantly better k range. My STi is significantly quieter for everyday use where my V1 is quite tiresome even programmed. But, alas in VA and seeing a Spectre IV in a VA State Leo on my way home from work, I have but one choice.

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Originally Posted by CactusMan

]With a quiet detector there is nothing to react to.

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Or you could say With a chatty detector there is too much to react to. :wink:

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Originally Posted by happya$$

A quiet detector is one that is not sensitivity. If I want a quiet detector I just do not drive with one

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A quiet detector use to always mean it’s not sensitive but with technology today that’s not completely the case. Sensitivity is not the only factor in getting a ticket there are many variables that should be accounted for as you know.
If you wanted a quiet detector I wouldn’t think a huge fan of RD's like your self would just chose not to use one. I would think you would just put your V1 on the quietest settings. (In a sense making it like the 9500I) :wink:

I completely agree with MEM-TEK the 9500I has good detection range with this uncanny ability to know what a real threat is and what is not. Yes it may be a bit of an exaggeration but it’s pretty darn close.

If you subtract the delayed reaction time and thought process analyzing a chatty RD alert, you will get pretty close detection range/reaction time between the other RD and the 9500I, even if the 9500I has less detection range.