I am not GOL BUT I my self CARLITO :D recommed this radardetector to the budget minder PERSON :lol: :P pECAE!! :arrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
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I am not GOL BUT I my self CARLITO :D recommed this radardetector to the budget minder PERSON :lol: :P pECAE!! :arrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
Wait until you see the GOL test results of this detector!
HaHa... i'll even admit that honestly doesn't sound good.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthJamal
But again Like I said it has served very good for 100 and less in my experinces.
I'm not expecting stellar results (read: RX65 or X50 comparable) from the 795, but I expect it to be decent. If they only tested one 795 model, it could just be that model was bad as well. Hopefully they had at least 2 models to rule out the "manufacturer variance" :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthJamal
Yeah I always thought part of the problem was that people kept comparing them to top-of-the-line detectors... I also offered up my E795 in a thread for testing... but they took Boomermans (only)? I believe? As I have said it has given me great performance to the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by ES13Raven
I never stated that the results are good or bad, I just stated wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by ES13Raven
"Ya killin' me Smalls" :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthJamal
not sure what "GOL" means, but its a test, and the RX65 went on it so im curious to hear the results also!!! :D
Wow, I feel that last place at GOL is too good for this POS. I sure hope you don't run up against the Talon anytime soon.
Don't you have some cartoons to watch or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
1/3 price of the big boys = 1/3 of the range! It would have been interesting to compare the bel e795 with the whistler pro 58 at the gol 1/28/06 shootout to see what detector was the best poor man's special.
Yeah if you look at the range and price it isnt all that far off (in most cases)... 1/4 the price of the V1, 1/3 the price of the RX65, X50... so value for the money (brand new detector) it is still fine. (This is especially evident in K-band as we all know the most widely used radar band by LEOs). With the Talon yeah you will have some problems... but again apply the 1/4, 1/3 price to the detector and you get what you pay for.Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
30 MPH = 44 feet per second traveled
40 MPH = 58.6 feet per second traveled
50 MPH = 73.3 feet per second traveled
60 MPH = 88 feet per second traveled
70 MPH = 102.6 feet per second travel
80 MPH = 117.3 feet per second traveled
90 MPH = 132 feet per second traveled
100 MPH = 146.6 feet per second traveled
So if you have a radar detector that warns you a half a second sooner than another, say at 80 MPH. You were warned 58.5 feet sooner if the detectors both picked up radar at the exact same time.
It is a great detector if you want to sharpen your reflexes!
You have to remember the tests done this last weekend was not your typical position that a radar gun would be used.
Remember they said they had to angle the guns since the road they tested on was not that long to prevent all of the detectors giving full alerts all the time.
You have to factor in the angles of the radar gun with this result.
Since you are now dealing with an offset angle some detectors can not do as well at detecting radar at angles.
Yes the high ends are going to detect off axis better than the low end Bel but the bel was not designed that way.
Maybe this wil help in perspective bel 795 vs Whislter pro 58
Back last August when we tested the pro 58 we got the following measurements in dectection.
Remember the radar unit was facing straight ahead as we came down the road. (radar was parallel with the road)
X band 1285 feet
k band 744 feet
ka 35.5 782 feet.
Now lets compare the Bel 795 results, remember the radar units being tested are now angled so it is not a direct shot like it was on the Whislter PRO 58.
X band 1552 feet <--actually did better than the Whistler!
k band 542 feet<--200 feet less than the Whistler
ka 35.5 156 feet <-- All the detectors performed poor on this test compared to the test back in August
As far as the KA 35.5 band if you compare the 2 tests results with this band you will see all detectors lost a lot of range on the new test, so I think in all honesty if the radar would have been aiming directly like it was for the pro 58 the Bel would have done just as well if not better.
I think if the tests would have been the same as last time the bel would have beaten the whistler PRO 58.
Bel had better X band range and was only 200 feet shorter detection on k band even though the radar was not pointing straight on.
As far as the KA 35.5 that is a tough band to detect especially off axis.
Sorry Boomerman, but I just don't see that happening. I can see a little jump in range shooting the radar in a straight line using the E795 but not by drastic increases by any means. Maybe you just got one of those units where the manufacturer was in a really good mood while building your detector. As VW242 says, "that dog don't hunt." As least both of mine did'nt. I had radar pointing right at me (straight on) and the E795 constantly remained silent until I got right on top of the LEO. I think you got one of those E795's that had a serious degree of variance.Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerman
Aust3333 look at my post I have updated it with numbers from when we tested the pro 58 last August and you will see that the bel did better on x band and was only 200' behind on k band.
Yes angle of a radar unit will affect detection greatly.
I have both a k band gun and a X band gun and if I walk around the car with my detectors on I can see a big difference in the detection strength of my radar detectors.
The only one it does not affect of course is the V1's
My experience with Ka instant on has been confirmed. "That Dog Don't Hunt"
If there were 2 models tested, and shown similar results, I would be convinced of that. What I am convinced of right now, is that quality control and manufacturer variance might not be the best on the 795. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
If you would read you would see that NONE of the detectors did very well at that angle compared to the tests we did in August.Quote:
Originally Posted by vw242
Yeah vw242 has a real problem with the little thing called 'critcal thinking'... such as a detector costing 4 times as much should have 4times (if not more) range, same for 3 times more. And again the tests now compared back in August are extremely different, henceforth ALL of the results are different... Jim (I believe in some post) even stated that how they had everything set up the guns wouldnt have clocked a speed even at near point-blank ranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerman
I mean maybe I also just got one of those freak detectors where Bel decided to give their bonus checks out that day... and the everyone got all happy that day and because of it came out a great batch of detectors.
Overall I am extremely pleased with the E795 myself, and maybe for the next testing I should send mine in for results(offered this time... but Boomerman did) so we get to see two of them, and also throw a whistler 58 in there under the same circumstances.
You guys should be political speech writers. Or at the very least, press secretaries for Radio Shack! Stop all the "spin" and accept the facts. I have heard of V1 zombies now we have E795 zombies. The only difference is their driving records.
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Originally Posted by boomerman
Well maybe you and Airmoore got the Freak units, but my two were sub par. I also understand about the angles while being tested but you mentioned detection strength while using your radar guns walking around your car. Signal strength is not the most important to me, actually detecting the signal at all is most important. After all, that was the focal point of all of the GOL tests, detection and range.
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Originally Posted by vw242
So, if 34% like it and 66% hate it, the split would be 34/33/33 in favor. Very nice.
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Originally Posted by aust3333
What not important??? it better be important!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aust3333
Signal strength is detecting the signal. Signal strength better be important to you!!, because if it is not, when a unit is getting targeted and you do not care about the strength getting stronger as you get closer to the radar you have a problem!!!
If that signal strength did not get stronger as you approached the radar how would you ever know if you getting closer or farther away from the radar?
Like I said as I would walk around the car I could see where some of my units would loose signal strength because they could no longer pick up the signal as well.
Angles affect radar, if it did not then why is it that most radar detectors can not detect radar from the rear as well as the front?
That is still an angle, it is 180 degree angle from the front windshield.
I believe Jim already awnsered this question in the other thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by zookybeanz
(To sum it up... no the numbers wouldnt be considered 'good', by most anyone; and your -RadioShack-RD is no where near the neighborhood of any of the 3 mentioned detectors in your post.)
Would Bel E795 have better numbers than the Radioshack one and by how much? they are the same price. I am asking because, would I be better off by exchanging Radio shack one for Bel 795? I m confused :? :? :? :?
I dont know the numbers on the E795. I will say I have gotten great detection from this RD... easily worth 100bucks (now 80 I believe) brand new. Some will say their detection has been terrible and they would never buy it again... me; well, I must have gotten a freak or something, because it has proved for me to be extremely good detection.Quote:
Originally Posted by zookybeanz
With that said I personally would rather have the Bel E795 over the Radioshack.
Airmoore
Thanx for your input :)
I've made a couple more trips into the city recently. Besides the annoying laser falses at the intersections (also when driving toward the sun), I now get full-blown Ka falses shortly after it maxes out on X maybe 5/10 times.
It's very annoying, yet predictable in its falses. I won't be buying this again. I may actually try to return it soon.
Boomerman I never said that signal strength was not important. I simply said that it is "not the most important to me". The point I was trying to make is that any signal I receive, no matter how weak or strong, I am going to react. The tests that were conducted by SML and others, conducted a test to see how many LED's would illuminate(signal strength) on a given detector when it receives a signal was worthless in my opinion. I guess I was kind of in this mind set (SML signal strength test) when you were explaining your walk around radar test. Bottom line is that I feel the most important aspect of a RD is dectecting a signal as early as possible. Don't get me wrong, signal strength will come into play but for instance many people complain about the RX65 not going to full alert when they think it should. Absolutely not a problem for me. I receive an alert and I act accordingly. The problem I had with E795 was not signal strength, but it actually detecting signals in enough time for me to react. I'm not expecting the E795 to give me RX65 performance, but at least adequate time to slow down. The E795 just did not do this for me as this seemed to be the case during the latest GOL tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerman
What this test proves is that you get what you pay for in radar detectors.
Yes the Bel 795 did poorley compared to the other units but those units also cost a lot more than the Bel 795.
I sent the Bel 795 so people could see the difference between it and the Whistler pro series.
If you do the comparison with the numbers you will see that the Bel and the Whistler are about the same.
The only reason I even have the 795 and the PRO 58 is to help out some of the members who do not want to pay big $$ for a radar detector.
Not everybody can afford the big 3 so I have always focused on the lower end units since we all know how well the big 3 perform.
You and I both know the Bel 795 and the Whistler pro series is NOT going to compare with the big 3, but someone has to test the lower end models for those who can not afford the big $$
Would I trust the 795 as my only detector ?? No, not 100% nor would I trust the Whistler PRO 100% but I know some detection is better than NO detection.
I do not go any where with out my V1!!
Maybe Bel has a quality issue with the 795 and I was lucky and got a good one. Same could be said for the Whistler PRO I have, maybe I got a bad one, but I doubt that since any Whistler I have owned has been pretty much the same.
That sucks that your 795 did not work out for you, but for the money I still believe the 795 is a good unit.
Just like I think the Whistler pro is a good unit for the money as well.
As long as someone is always wanting a cheap detector I am always going to recommend the Whistler pro or the Bel 795 until something else comes along that is better.
Very well said. good post boomerman :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerman
Carlito
Good post. I really was hoping the E795 would be my backup. Hmmm.....maybe I should keep buying the E795 and returning them until I find a freak :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerman
Good post. I really was hoping the E795 would be my backup. Hmmm.....maybe I should keep buying the E795 and returning them until I find a freak
HAHAHAAHHAHA good luck on finding a freak!!!
I dont see what all the fuss about this detector is about. After all its sold at radio shack, hardly the place people buy high end stuff.
I had a pro 58 and the thing was terrible in the falsing department. After 2 days of the e795 i havent had a single false. In my tests it gave me plenty of time against constant on k. Sure it could be more sensitive but unless your doing 10+ over and have the reaction of a senior citizen you can get by without it. I would much rather have a shorter detection time and have to stomp the break than have a constantly falsing whistler that you learn to ignore. Also I really am wondering who needs pop mode? Around here 90% of the radar by troopers is constant on and I dont know of more than a handful of pop guns in use in any state.
Where are you from Hawdey? Is pop used in chicago? Iam moving to the windy city soon? will bel E795 save my ass there?(PS- Iam not a super speedster)Quote:
Originally Posted by hawdey
Won't save your "butt" and that is a fact!
Something amazing actually happened to me and the 795 today! I received a Ka alert for 2 miles to a LEO approaching in the opposite direction. My guess is that he was doing the speed limit (70+) , as was I, while approaching me so that works out to almost a 4 mile alert, right?
Second time was with a camped out LEO running instant on at night. He was camped out on my shoulder on the freeway. Shortly after I spotted his tail lights, the Bel pegged out on Ka. I slammed on the brakes and rolled by at the speed limit. The alert stopped as I passed him. Then shortly after as I was pulling away, he hit it again and the 795 pegged full Ka. I continued to receive his bursts for about 1/2 mile from the rear.
My area is very flat with a few bushes and no trees so that may have accounted to the good detection range this time.