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07-31-2011, 01:11 AM
supercowpowers

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by dr_King

The "option" was to either take the ticket or crush the rd under the wheel of the vehicle. Note option 1 was more cost effective at least back then. No idea what the fine is now. I didn't hear of confiscations. Passed thru there hundreds of times.

Can a detector made with a high-quality metal shell like an STi or V1 actually be crushed from the weight of a car? I'm not exactly willing to try it myself, but I imagine it would just get scratched and ugly but would still work.

Anyway, I would love to be offered that option on my next stop for speeding. I would crush my V1 in a heartbeat to avoid a speeding ticket. The average cost for a lawyer around here, in my experience, is about $500. Replacing my V1 would cost $400. Figure the insurance costs if you don't win your case or can't manage to plead it down to something that doesn't get reported and it's a no-brainer.
08-04-2011, 06:53 PM
Mandingo

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.
08-05-2011, 05:35 AM
insidercw3

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.
08-05-2011, 07:40 AM
Mandingo

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.

It's a possibility but I am sure it is very rare. Another thing that could happen is that the L/O might for some strange reason start to operate at a slightly higher frequency then the filtering system is designed to handle.
08-05-2011, 07:52 AM
insidercw3

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.

It's a possibility but I am sure it is very rare. Another thing that could happen is that the L/O might for some strange reason start to operate at a slightly higher frequency then the filtering system is designed to handle.

No it's not a possibility. Usually I let the nonsense on this forum just go on but lately forum posters are reposting the nonsense over and over and people are starting to take it as fact.
The LO emissions are kept at such a low level as to be undetectable by Spectre at distances beyond 1 meter due to several factors in the design of the M3 antenna system. Most of the isolation comes from the LNAs (RF amplifiers) that are in the front end of the horn. Essentially these LNAs block emissions from the LOs from radiating back out of the horn launch, additionally there are RF absorbers placed in the horn channels, as well as microwave absorptive paint on the bottom side of the pcb. The LOs are Phase Locked tuned every few minutes to ensure that the LO remains on frequency.
So no it isn't really a possibility.
08-05-2011, 12:19 PM
nine_c1

Re: Is this for real?

The new Spectre Elite has the same detection capabilities as the previous model. The only differences are it now has a Selectable Filter switch (to cut down range on Cobras) and a temperature compensated LO, an idea borrowed from the RD industry most likely.. And oh yes........it is now RoHS compliant (lead free) as well.;)

Specifications:

• Operating Frequency: 10 GHz - 25 GHz
• Temperature Range: 32° - 176° F
• Power Requirement: 11.5 - 14.5 VDC
• Current Requirement: 300 - 500 ma
• Weight: 1 lb.
• Sensitivity: -110 dBm @ 25 GHz typical
• Detects: Most radar detectors
• Dimensions: 6.1” D x 3.5” W x 1.4” H
08-05-2011, 12:46 PM
Mandingo

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.

It's a possibility but I am sure it is very rare. Another thing that could happen is that the L/O might for some strange reason start to operate at a slightly higher frequency then the filtering system is designed to handle.

No it's not a possibility. Usually I let the nonsense on this forum just go on but lately forum posters are reposting the nonsense over and over and people are starting to take it as fact.
The LO emissions are kept at such a low level as to be undetectable by Spectre at distances beyond 1 meter due to several factors in the design of the M3 antenna system. Most of the isolation comes from the LNAs (RF amplifiers) that are in the front end of the horn. Essentially these LNAs block emissions from the LOs from radiating back out of the horn launch, additionally there are RF absorbers placed in the horn channels, as well as microwave absorptive paint on the bottom side of the pcb. The LOs are Phase Locked tuned every few minutes to ensure that the LO remains on frequency.
So no it isn't really a possibility.

But this doesn't explain the why the TWO horns are needed now does it?

The antenna system is a BIG part of it. They act as a microwave band block filter for the L/O's

How do I know this? From seeing people used modified antennas systems to make the v1 undetectable that's how.

If rf absorbers are placed in the horn channels do you realize what that would also do?

Think about it.

Microwave absorbing paints on the PC board? Interesting idea. Doesn't help a lot though.

Low noise amp and oscillators are indeed a big help and all quality detector companies are now using them but they don't block microwave emissions out of the horn.

Phase look cloop circuitry isn't a guarantee that the L/O will stay in tune The MPH radar uses a similar PLL system and has to be sent in periodically for retuning.
08-05-2011, 12:55 PM
Mandingo

Re: Is this for real?

From what I have seen there are some very good detectors that use what you quote to get the microwave emissions down to negligible levels where a person with goods eyes would see the policeman using even the new spectra and adjust his speed. The sti's are a great system but very pricey but IMO not as needed as they once were.
08-05-2011, 01:00 PM
nine_c1

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.

It's a possibility but I am sure it is very rare. Another thing that could happen is that the L/O might for some strange reason start to operate at a slightly higher frequency then the filtering system is designed to handle.

No it's not a possibility. Usually I let the nonsense on this forum just go on but lately forum posters are reposting the nonsense over and over and people are starting to take it as fact.
The LO emissions are kept at such a low level as to be undetectable by Spectre at distances beyond 1 meter due to several factors in the design of the M3 antenna system. Most of the isolation comes from the LNAs (RF amplifiers) that are in the front end of the horn. Essentially these LNAs block emissions from the LOs from radiating back out of the horn launch, additionally there are RF absorbers placed in the horn channels, as well as microwave absorptive paint on the bottom side of the pcb. The LOs are Phase Locked tuned every few minutes to ensure that the LO remains on frequency.
So no it isn't really a possibility.

But this doesn't explain the why the TWO horns are needed now does it?

The antenna system is a BIG part of it. They act as a microwave band block filter for the L/O's

How do I know this? From seeing people used modified antennas systems to make the v1 undetectable that's how.

If rf absorbers are placed in the horn channels do you realize what that would also do?

Think about it.

Microwave absorbing paints on the PC board? Interesting idea. Doesn't help a lot though.

Low noise amp and oscillators are indeed a big help and all quality detector companies are now using them but they don't block microwave emissions out of the horn.

Phase look cloop circuitry isn't a guarantee that the L/O will stay in tune The MPH radar uses a similar PLL system and has to be sent in periodically for retuning.

Dude, I'll give you the 1st point...........but after that you are sinking to your knees in Bull$****.

Read the patent.

Radar detector with reduced emissions - Google Patents
08-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Mandingo

Re: Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by nine_c1

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by insidercw3

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

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Originally Posted by happya$$

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Originally Posted by bigalinwv

You have to take every review on the internet with a grain or three of salt. He probably had the d@mn thing right on the windshield. Similar story on here not too long ago by someone in Canada. Again, not real believable.

I know for a FACT a few years ago a LEO for VA pulled someone over with an STI Driver because the LEO DETECTED it with their spectre. The STI Driver must been a defective leaky unit that made it through QC. In other words no unit is perfect and shyt happens

actually this may be just be a possibility due to the merged twin antenna system. I believe it acts as a L/O leak buffer. If one got misaligned the L/O may have been detectable.

All of the above is total NONSENSE. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge there has never been an M3 that has been successfully detected by a Spectre at more than 1 meter distance. For that to occur the detector would have to have been severely tampered with.

It's a possibility but I am sure it is very rare. Another thing that could happen is that the L/O might for some strange reason start to operate at a slightly higher frequency then the filtering system is designed to handle.

No it's not a possibility. Usually I let the nonsense on this forum just go on but lately forum posters are reposting the nonsense over and over and people are starting to take it as fact.
The LO emissions are kept at such a low level as to be undetectable by Spectre at distances beyond 1 meter due to several factors in the design of the M3 antenna system. Most of the isolation comes from the LNAs (RF amplifiers) that are in the front end of the horn. Essentially these LNAs block emissions from the LOs from radiating back out of the horn launch, additionally there are RF absorbers placed in the horn channels, as well as microwave absorptive paint on the bottom side of the pcb. The LOs are Phase Locked tuned every few minutes to ensure that the LO remains on frequency.
So no it isn't really a possibility.

But this doesn't explain the why the TWO horns are needed now does it?

The antenna system is a BIG part of it. They act as a microwave band block filter for the L/O's

How do I know this? From seeing people used modified antennas systems to make the v1 undetectable that's how.

If rf absorbers are placed in the horn channels do you realize what that would also do?

Think about it.

Microwave absorbing paints on the PC board? Interesting idea. Doesn't help a lot though.

Low noise amp and oscillators are indeed a big help and all quality detector companies are now using them but they don't block microwave emissions out of the horn.

Phase look cloop circuitry isn't a guarantee that the L/O will stay in tune The MPH radar uses a similar PLL system and has to be sent in periodically for retuning.

Dude, I'll give you the 1st point...........but after that you are sinking to your knees in Bull$****.

Read the patent.

Radar detector with reduced emissions - Google Patents

Thanks a bunch for the patent. I love seeing this stuff. Just a friendy FYI here. Public Patents usually don't tell the whole story of any invention and this is on purpose.

for example "elongated signal path.."

I do like the conductive sealing gasket bit myself.

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