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At 1500' to 1000' on that course it was very easy to shoot the roof. Taylor said the dot in the HUD covered the whole car so I suspect that is what happened on both cars. It probably happened on the other cars as well but being black they absorbed the lidar energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMoth
I'm hoping we can get another Ultralyte 125 PPS gun to go back and do some more testing.
If the heads are as messed up as some are suggesting how do to explain the JTG/JFG on the other 3 guns with my car? You can't......
I think that you may be onto something with the red paint. A while back I posted that red is the most reflective color to lidar which pretty much was blown off. My father was a double majot organic chemistry and physics then he went to optometry school were he studied LIGHT for 3 years of his life. He told me that 904nm is the closest to red on the light spectrum therefore reflecting more with red paint. Of course this doesnt account for white and mirror/chrome. But on the "color" of a car it certaintly could play a large role.
Yea, I've always thought red would be "up there" with white in terms of reflectivity. White and chrome, well they reflect everything. Either way, this is all very interesting.
You can explain it. At almost all of the North east lidar events, someone had a less than optimized setup. That someone did great (JTG) against a few guns, but was shredded by one or two other guns. I was one of those someones. JTG against Laser Atlanta, Ultralyte LR, but yet the Pro3 and Stalker killed me. I wasn't the only one. Carter840 with his LPP dual head had an alignment issue. He would JTG the Ultralyte LR but then suffer instant 1700 ft PT's against the Laser Atlanta and then 500-1000 ft PTs against the Stalker. His heads were cleaned and realigned somewhat and his results improved significantly. My heads were mounted behind a mesh grill and would JTG every center mass shot from every gun thrown at it. The outer portion of the headlamps and plate position were the problem. I mounted my heads outside the grill and the results were much more consistent from gun to gun. Next time we set up a North East event, I'll look for a road that mimics the ATL course because that was an excellent idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by rsatmans
Again, I believed you the last time when you said red was probably the most reflective color for infrared light. It would make a good bit of sense. What doesn't add up is how the most powerful gun used that day, the Stalker LZ1, didn't destroy the red cars. Instead, it was the easily jammable Ultralyte that pwn3d. Let me stress that I'm not arguing anything here. I wasn't at the event so that's why I'm firing off all these questions and requests. It would be great if we could pinpoint a specific cause or a combination of causes. That way, at future testing events around the country, other enthusiasts can test in a similar format.
*Edit* What's even more disturbing is that these 1000+ ft CM PTs happened without a front plate. I own a cherry red car with a front plate and am now a little worried.
What version where the LI's tested?
It could be different batches with manufacturing variance... (just an assumption).
Who's the question directed at? The ATL group listed all the LI ver in their results table. Mine is the first version CPU released to the public and I believe the most up to date heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by speed-demon
it was for category4. The table only says LI 7.05 for the SLK320...Quote:
Originally Posted by PMoth
What doesn't add up is your assumption that the Stalker is the "most powerful gun". Where exactly do you come up with that claim? And what is your definition of "power"? "Power" is only one facet of jamming. Other factors play a more significant part of the process. Some so-called "powerful" jammers don't even alert to certain guns, much less jam them, so what does all that "power" get them? It seems that too many people are too hung up on "power", while really having no idea what it is they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMoth
As for the "power" of the Stalker, it had the worst average of all four guns in terms of baseline speed lock. Look at the baselines (i.e. speed lock distance on cars without jammers on) in the spreadsheet:
The "most powerful" LZ-1 = 1201 feet average
Kustom Pro Laser III = 1272 feet average
Laser Atlanta Speedlaser = 1309 feet average
"Easily Jammable" Ultralyte = 1333 feet average
It seems that your idea of "power" may be backwards, according to the above numbers. Perhaps instead of getting all caught up in the assumptions of who is "most powerful" without even knowing how to define the term, we should instead simply concentrate on the actual results. When it comes down to it, this is no more puzzling than how the "most powerful" 7 foot Russian got pwn3d in the boxing ring last month. Put all your eggs in the "power" basket and you are going to get pwn3d by technique every time.
Mine is 7.06Quote:
Originally Posted by speed-demon
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Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker
To answer your question, the manufacturer of "Your" jammer said that the Stalker LZ1 was all about brute power. You own the guns, go check out the intensity of the beams and the reflections using an IR camera.
I had them all in my possession and compared/measured this myself.