I didnt get the joke until I saw that picture... :stupid:Quote:
Originally Posted by abonne4
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I didnt get the joke until I saw that picture... :stupid:Quote:
Originally Posted by abonne4
Guys, I'm new to this forum and all of you are whiz kids with this stuff.
I watched the videos and saw Detector vs. Detector. There was so much beeping and or static going on I never could figure out what the results were when measuring Gun vs. Detector when I watched gun vs detector video. Who caught whom first and by what distance or time? (maybe I just don't know what to watch or listen for)
I was confused too. They tested one detector at a time with and open cell phone in walkie talkie mode. That way the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detected. For Q/T test that's the only video that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monte1
For C/O Tests there were a few comments by the driver on the detector side videos of when other detectors detected C/O. But a few "Bubble messages" added to the Last run video on each frequency of when each detector detected would be really helpful.
Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
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Originally Posted by rocky2
Received my unit Monday the 21st as well.
The mount if the same (or very similar) as my 9500iX, My V-1 definitely has a nicer mount than the Escort Redline or iX.
I have serial # 93 and my unit also came out "tacky" as if just painted or "wet." The weight is about the same or a lil more than my V-1.
As far as peformance, the off-axis (indirect hits) are as good, but I can't say better, than my two v-1s. I got Lasered in Buffalo Grove today with an Ultralyte and the Redline got it first, about 1 second before the V-1 (which I didnt understand until I realized that the officer was scanning the front of my car and probably hit the redline first). There is no front plate so he was probably going for the headlights.
Ka is better on the Redline on direct hits on the tollway (these were not instant- on hits) but running radar hits where the LEO was coming toward me from the opposite direction. The V-1 was about 2 seconds later to pick it up. Haven't tested X since we don't have it here like Ohio, so I cant comment on that. I have the units about 4 feet apart on a SUV and don't believe they are interfering with each other, BUT who knows??
Overall, I'd have to say that after two days of "informal" testing (cant wait for the GOL guys to do a test) , the Redline was /is better on continuous running Ka, off axis is about the same as V-1 and the laser was a wash since the officer was probably aiming at the Redline (on the drivers side) first. The Redline is significantly better than my 9500iX though. Again, I can't comment on IO Ka hits since I haven't had any yet.
I summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
Anyone with enough experience to tell which detector falses less?
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Originally Posted by badbart;613559[B
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In two days of testing , the V-1 never shuts the F up. The Redline has been relatively quiet BUT that can be a bad thing too??? MY iX is "too quiet."
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Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
On another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.
In the 3 days i have run the two together, they have both falsed at the same things, the redline generally a little sooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by badbart
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Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
On another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.
BTW, my unit tag says it was made in Canada??
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Originally Posted by PointerCone
From a marketing and sales stand point its a good thing. For us enthusiast no its not good.
Yes, all Belscort RDs are made in a factory in Ontario, Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerCone
It's not so much the 2 seconds as he was coming to a stop in both vids, it was like 50 feet. Negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerConeQuote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
On another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.
BTW, my unit tag says it was made in Canada??
The fact that you are running both detectors together makes your results suspect to most of us here anyway ... maybe they interfere, maybe they don't, but there will always be that "maybe" when running two detectors together.
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Originally Posted by ObsidianIt's not so much the 2 seconds as he was coming to a stop in both vids, it was like 50 feet. Negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerConeQuote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
On another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.
BTW, my unit tag says it was made in Canada??
The fact that you are running both detectors together makes your results suspect to most of us here anyway ... maybe they interfere, maybe they don't, but there will always be that "maybe" when running two detectors together.
.............and if you'll read all of my comments, I made that perfectly clear that I was 1. Running BOTH together (that was fully disclosed) and about 48 inches apart and 2. That I too suspected it could affect results so I would reserve judgment on the results till the guys of GOL get a good look at it!! I do suspect however, that the Redline is better on certain Ka bands (34.7) than the two V-1s that I own and I believe that will remain true in the GOL test when they schedule one (soon I hope). Lemme put it this way, and again , this is first impression, the Redline is every bit as good or even better than the V-1 on K and Ka (so far). About the same on off-axis hits.
BTW, at 75 MPH, 2 seconds is NOT negligible, at a stop or near stop, it is almost irrelevant.
at 75mph 2 seconds is 220 feet, basically negligible to manufacturing variances and current road/weather conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerConeQuote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianIt's not so much the 2 seconds as he was coming to a stop in both vids, it was like 50 feet. Negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerConeOn another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
BTW, my unit tag says it was made in Canada??
The fact that you are running both detectors together makes your results suspect to most of us here anyway ... maybe they interfere, maybe they don't, but there will always be that "maybe" when running two detectors together.
.............and if you'll read all of my comments, I made that perfectly clear that I was 1. Running BOTH together (that was fully disclosed) and about 48 inches apart and 2. That I too suspected it could affect results so I would reserve judgment on the results till the guys of GOL get a good look at it!! I do suspect however, that the Redline is better on certain Ka bands (34.7) than the two V-1s that I own and I believe that will remain true in the GOL test when they schedule one (soon I hope). Lemme put it this way, and again , this is first impression, the Redline is every bit as good or even better than the V-1 on K and Ka (so far). About the same on off-axis hits.
BTW, at 75 MPH, 2 seconds is NOT negligible, at a stop or near stop, it is almost irrelevant.
Relax dude, I was not challenging you or saying you were hiding anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerCone.............and if you'll read all of my comments, I made that perfectly clear that I was 1. Running BOTH together (that was fully disclosed) and about 48 inches apart and 2. That I too suspected it could affect results so I would reserve judgment on the results till the guys of GOL get a good look at it!! I do suspect however, that the Redline is better on certain Ka bands (34.7) than the two V-1s that I own and I believe that will remain true in the GOL test when they schedule one (soon I hope). Lemme put it this way, and again , this is first impression, the Redline is every bit as good or even better than the V-1 on K and Ka (so far). About the same on off-axis hits.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianIt's not so much the 2 seconds as he was coming to a stop in both vids, it was like 50 feet. Negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerConeOn another forum , Upstatedoc had the same results as You and I, so I am pretty sure on the 34.7, the Redline is BETTER than my V-1. I don't believe that on the 34.7, two seconds is negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianI summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1Maybe the shooter could instantly hear when his trigger was detetected but I couldn't. So, my same question. Who detected whom first by what distance or time? I know it's important for Q/T, but C/O is something I'd also like to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
Nobody else?
BTW, my unit tag says it was made in Canada??
The fact that you are running both detectors together makes your results suspect to most of us here anyway ... maybe they interfere, maybe they don't, but there will always be that "maybe" when running two detectors together.
BTW, at 75 MPH, 2 seconds is NOT negligible, at a stop or near stop, it is almost irrelevant.
In Cbr's 34.7 vid the difference was 50 feet, which is negligible. It was only 2 seconds because he was going about 10-20 mph and coming to a stop.
[quote=Obsidian;613555]I guess the question I asked somehow broke forum decorum as a taboo subject that's never discussed...or I haven't passed the in-house initiation for newbies yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monte1I summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
I took it upon myself to do the initiation. I drank 2 six packs of beer, ate an entire can of anchovies and guzzled the oil, ate 1 pound of chitlins and hog maws, and polished it off with a live cockroach and buttermilk. I puked. I HAD to pass even after barfing. So it must come down to forum decorum whereby the ONLY test discussed is radar detector against radar detector.
A few months ago before and right after my car was installed with a Blinder M27, I operated the laser gun while someone else drove my car. Before installation the readout was instantaneous. After installation I KNOW what the LEO would have been seeing in distance, time, and speed and what I would hear in my car as far as making an adjustment to my speed after I switched roles from shooter to driver. FYI, the LEO would have seen a bunch of blank lines. We did the test repeatedly back and forth.
So, radar detectors X, Y, and Z pick up the signal from the radar GUN in varying degrees of sensitivity...in the REAL WORLD, when does RADAR GUN A, B, C, and D pick up the vehicle and distance? Is it before, at the same time, or AFTER radar detector X, Y, Z detects it whether it's C/O, Q/T, or I/O? (sufficient time to avoid a ticket is not the answer)
(please don't put me through another initiation):(:eek:
[quote=Monte1;613613]dude stop rocking the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianI guess the question I asked somehow broke forum decorum as a taboo subject that's never discussed...or I haven't passed the in-house initiation for newbies yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monte1I summarized the C/O results in the thread with the videos. Redline won 34.7 and K, V1 won 35.5. However, the differences were neglibile. All would have prevented a ticket, which is what it's really all about. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
I took it upon myself to do the initiation. I drank 2 six packs of beer, ate an entire can of anchovies and guzzled the oil, ate 1 pound of chitlins and hog maws, and polished it off with a live cockroach and buttermilk. I puked. I HAD to pass even after barfing. So it must come down to forum decorum whereby the ONLY test discussed is radar detector against radar detector.
A few months ago before and right after my car was installed with a Blinder M27, I operated the laser gun while someone else drove my car. Before installation the readout was instantaneous. After installation I KNOW what the LEO would have been seeing in distance, time, and speed and what I would hear in my car as far as making an adjustment to my speed after I switched roles from shooter to driver. FYI, the LEO would have seen a bunch of blank lines. We did the test repeatedly back and forth.
So, radar detectors X, Y, and Z pick up the signal from the radar GUN in varying degrees of sensitivity...in the REAL WORLD, when does RADAR GUN A, B, C, and D pick up the vehicle and distance? Is it before, at the same time, or AFTER radar detector X, Y, Z detects it whether it's C/O, Q/T, or I/O? (sufficient time to avoid a ticket is not the answer)
(please don't put me through another initiation):(:eek:
:D
http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/...6/facepalm.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte1
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Originally Posted by Monte1
Oh NO...the head in the hand looking downward from swarga must mean one of two things, either I left out the eels...or...it wasn't the initiation afterall. Either way I'm screwed.:eek:
Wet paint, are you sure? The paint is a soft, or rubberized, paint similar to what was on the original Solo. It isn't the same paint used on the STi Driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerCone
I said Specifically "came out tacky" as if just painted or wet. It wasn't wet BUT definitely felt tacky and another user felt the same way!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EscortRadarWet paint, are you sure? The paint is a soft, or rubberized, paint similar to what was on the original Solo. It isn't the same paint used on the STi Driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerCone
the evolution of stupid terminologyQuote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo
from the escort site, describing the 9500ci
"With blistering all-band radar protection . . . . . "
whut ??
probably feel a lot more "soft, or rubberized" after sitting on the windshield in a Florida or Arizona hot summer day...:(Quote:
Originally Posted by EscortRadarWet paint, are you sure? The paint is a soft, or rubberized, paint similar to what was on the original Solo. It isn't the same paint used on the STi Driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointerCone