To the OP, why you want to know anyway? you cannot outbreak Lidar if that's what you're thinking off...
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To the OP, why you want to know anyway? you cannot outbreak Lidar if that's what you're thinking off...
OP is trying to figure out how long he has to slow to PSL and shut off jammers.Quote:
Originally Posted by speed-dreams
It CAN take a little time to get a reading on your car, even with no jammers.
I've heard black corvettes with no Front License Plate take a while to lock on from afar. Maybe someone with a little more knowlege on the subject can throw in their .02..
IMO, if you're being targeted from far away, slow down slowly, but not too slow. If your car is sporty, you can probably shave 20 mph off in a few seconds without much nose dive, which they aren't looking for. I'd say it should never be more than 4 seconds, unless you're on TOP of him (never ever jam all the way to gun...) if you're on top of him, might have to slam and turn off or just let him get the PT :P
I definitely wouldn't slam on brakes and immediately shut off the jammer in your typical encounter. That is suspicious and unsafe.
Yes, was just trying to get an idea how many seconds it typically takes an LEO to get a read on you from the time he starts trying to laser your car. So if its not unusual for them to take 4 or 5 seconds to get a read on you, then there is time to slow down to psl and shut off jammers. Guess reaction time is very crucial while trying not to panic and nose dive into the ashphalt.
No, it is not. Take a nose-dive and have a chance of slowing down in time, or don't take a nose-dive and get pwn3d. Those are your choices. How is there any crucial decision involved here? One gives you a chance. The other gives you none. That's a no-brainer where I come from.
And no, it is not common for it to take 4-5 seconds. It simply does not happen, unless you are using a jammer. Very few cops will target you at long distances (over 700 feet) unless they are on a tripod, shooting straight down the road at you. That's rare. And when they do that, it still takes less than a second to lock your speed.
At engagements under 700 feet (which is the vast majority of all LEO shots), lock will almost always be instantaneous, giving you no time whatsoever to even react, much less gradually slow down. It takes an absolute minimum of two to three seconds for you to even respond to the alert and get your foot halfway over to the brake pedal, under the best of circumstances. Most of the time it will take you much longer. Anything less than 2 seconds is pointless, because without a jammer, they will always get you before then.
It is not unusual for them to take 4-5 secs to get a read on you but it "is" usually quicker when the object they are targeting is the size of your truck. Also you have a very reflective front. My guess is time for the initial lock on the front of your truck will be 1-3 secs. That time will depend on the gun, operator, and the distance. Other factors may come into play also. AFAIK, they use the Laser Atlanta and LTi Ultralyte in your area. Both are capable of locking a speed blindingly fast but the Ultralyte can and is typically significantly slower in doing so. Also it is not unheard of for cops in your area to target out past 2K feet or 610 meters but they may also target in as few as 60 meters.Quote:
Originally Posted by fast guy
It is not likely that you will be able to outbrake laser in that truck without a jammer. I've done so before 5 times successfully in cars. One had a front euro-plate which was reflective, the other had no front plate. I can still get a lock on each car at well over 600 meters quite easily so they are reflective. But my alertness and reflexes saved me in those instances where I have won against laser. Again, I ride motorcycles so I scan the road more frequently and further downroad than the average motorists. My brakes on all of my cars are also in awesome shape with better than average stopping power. All this plays a role in my successfulness. But as I've stated earlier, I've also failed twice. First time was at over 700ft and the second being at 1790ft.
So it's your call. My advice is to use your jammers wisely and kill them once you are @ a safe speed while being targeted. Just be aware of your surroundings because a lot of times, you'll see the cops before they pull that trigger.
Thanks guys. Actually I dont have a truck but a mercedez 230 but still got the chrome grill and big headlamps which dont help. Live in Ontario so dont know if that makes any difference on laser guns they use hear.
Hmm, there's the dilemma. Since he lives in Ontario, if he nose dives, they'll know he's using a detection device, and they might stop him to confiscate it.
If he doesn't shut off the jammers quick enough, they'll know he's jamming them, and stop to confiscate.
Do they use front plates in Ontario? Depending on how steady the lidar gun is, and if they do use plates, they're probably getting readings on cars in under a second if they actually aim for the plate before they pull the trigger.
Also, I'm going to go opposite to some, but I shoot faster with an Ultralyte than with a Laser Atlanta, especially if I can lean on something.
Yeah, too much weight transfer is a bad thing. I still think braking regularly and shutting it down is the best bet. Could care less if it takes an extra 3 secs. I know for a fact that they use tripods regularly during multi-leo speed traps. They coud very well get readings quicker than the avg. leo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ELVATO
Many users have a favorite gun and even after using everything the US has to offer, I still prefer the LA. You leaning against something with that Ultralyte is very important. I'm sure you've tried it freehand with a shoulder stalk or braced against your cheek and can detect a serious difference in acquisition time. Cool regardless, they are both great guns.
If you drive a dark color car, it's not unusual shooting freehand to take 2-3 seconds to get a reading. I have actually not been able to get a reading on black cars with no jammers.
That can't be true??? What gun were you using and how far off-axis were you?Quote:
Originally Posted by category4