Can any post pictures of their cars with Veil on it? So I can see what kind of changes I would see with my car
Thanks
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Can any post pictures of their cars with Veil on it? So I can see what kind of changes I would see with my car
Thanks
Easy, take a dark purple type pain and throw it on and that is how it will look.
I have no idea how anyone can develop a technique to install veil when following the instructions and not have your lights look dirty.
Get a jammer, the cost of veil is 1/4 of the way there and then you will have good protection that looks cool when installed.
I agree veil takes the light output of your lights down10-25% and if the LEO decides to br investigative he can discover it and ticket you for it. It is illegal in NYS to alter your headlights in that way.
yet i have had veil on my headlights for years no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by vonivogtp
I had blacked out head light covers on my jeep and drove through multiple speed traps no problem. I took them off at night
i dident say that it was strictly enforced but it is a reason for them to pull you over :(Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
^ It's definitely "a reason," and for those who like to speed in Q-ships, definitely, it's something that should be kept in-mind.
Anything out-of-the-ordinary can be a reason for gathering more attention (not necessarily even a pull-over) from enforcers, and this ranges anything from driving a car with "louder" paint and trim schemes to louder exhausts. Unfortunatley, VEIL is no exception to this as it does cause the headlamp lenses to look darker-than-normal, and the resultant light output is typically visualized, to some degree, as "bluer/more-purple" than normal.
In various areas, headlamp modifications, including any type of light-reducing covering or coating, is a citation-earning offense. However, enforcement of such laws/codes is often quite variable, and in some cases, enforcement may even be quite "targeted" (i.e. a "family sedan" rolls around with, say, such a dark cover on all the time without raising any eyebrows, but an "import sport compact" with such covers gets pulled-over right-away). As such, if you simply don't want the hassle/risk or just want to remain a true Q-ship - or if you fit local enforcement target profiles, perhaps VEIL isn't for you...or you should consider only a very light coating.
Similarly, even the bluer/more-purple light output, which some have described as being akin to HIDs, can cause more attention to be drawn to your vehicle. In many areas, enforcers specifically target "improper retrofit" HIDs for fix-it citations, and even if this is not the case, it certainly also isn't the first time that I've seen either on these Forums or that of nearly *any* automotive-enthusiast Forum that someone was singled-out for a pull-over simply because their headlights were "different" (even if they had OEM HIDs).
VEIL, in my view, does carry with it significant benefits - but it's also definitely not without faults. While it's definitely quite stealthy, it's also not completely "invisible," and cannot be said to render the vehicle immune to some of the potential hassles that may go with modifying one's headlights.
As to "ease-of-application?" Well, it may not be the easiest thing to apply smoothly or render a "professional" result, but there are definitely posts here from fellow hobbyist do-it-yourself'ers who have proven that an even, aesthetically-pleasing coating that nearly replicates the smoothness of Rockblocker film is far from impossible....
When I apply it, should it look dark or even black with something like a nightshot camera or other with infrared filter?
My thought was to take a before and after picture using one of my IR capable cameras - this would also reveal which areas might need coating or would benefit from a second coat.
I tried some on a glass slide, and it looks a little dark, but not much darker down in the deep red to just infrared region. But that might be because it lets lots of visible but deep red through. I haven't tried every combination of filter and camera I have, but before I do, exactly where in the spectrum is it supposed to absorb the IR light? According to one web page, Lidar is supposed to go up to 950 nM and that is in the visible red part of the spectrum.
Is there a spectrophotometer graph of what Veil does (or should do)?
Good luck finding an infrared spectrophotometer. Most specs deal with the visible light spectrum.