Doubt about my 8500!!!

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06-10-2006, 04:06 PM
PRCA

Doubt about my 8500!!!

I don't know what happened, I found my 8500 is not working!!!
the story is like this: I drove on highway using my 8500 last week, everything looks good. I was driving around 140-180km/h, but suddenly I found there was a Canada RCMP Police Patrol pulled over a car, however, my 8500 even didn't have any reaction on the RCMP patrol. this was the first time, I told myself that maybe officer turned the radar off or he was using Laser Guy at that moment, so there wasn't any reaction on my 8500. I kept driving, later, I found 3-5 RCPM patrol parked at roadside and control the traffic. However, my 8500 didn't have any reaction at all! what's wrong with it? later, I slowed down, because I counldn't believe my 8500 anymore. but when I came back to town, there was speed reminder on highway which was K Band, my 8500 detected that about 4 miles before that. it doubted me more! why there was no reaction on RCMP patrol but very efficient reaction on K Band speed reminder?
the other story happened yesterday, I was driving on highway, there was a RCMP patrol hided at the side lane, heading the coming traffics, when I saw that patrol, it pulled over one guy, when I drove by, my 8500 still didn't have any reaction. I didn't give up, I made U-turn and come back to try again, it still didn't work. what the F it is? (X Band works well in city, K band can be detected if I try it in front of the Automatic Door)
Is it my 8500's problem or Canada RCMP upgrade there equipment? when I first bought my 8500 in Feb this year, my 8500 helped me a lot on highway and detected Ka Band on patrol car.
Can anybody help me out? thanks a lot!
06-10-2006, 05:16 PM
g60_corrado_91

Is it just an 8500 or is it the X50? I don't know man, it seems like a coincidence that they all had their radar/laser off. I wouldn't think that them upgrading their stuff would have an affect on your RD. As stupid as it sounds, it was getting power and it was turned on correct? If it still has a warranty, you will probably have to send it to Escort.
06-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Sparkknocker

Are the LEO's running Ka band radar guns? There was also another guy that told us his horrible story about getting busted using his brand new X50. It never alerted to Ka band and he was hit. So...this could be a possibility. DON'T SPEED until you know it can alert on Ka band. Keep running around at the PSL and find LEO's if you see 5-7 and there is no alert at all. You have a problem. Keep us posted and we will help you out
06-10-2006, 05:26 PM
g60_corrado_91

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaseavey

Are the LEO's running Ka band radar guns? There was also another guy that told us his horrible story about getting busted using his brand new X50. It never alerted to Ka band and he was hit. So...this could be a possibility. DON'T SPEED until you know it can alert on Ka band. Keep running around at the PSL and find LEO's if you see 5-7 and there is no alert at all. You have a problem. Keep us posted and we will help you out

How did it not detect Ka band? He must've had Ka disabled for some reason?
06-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Sparkknocker

No he didn't have Ka disabled. It was F'd up. Perhaps it wasn't detecting any band at all but I know he said the LEO was running a Ka band radar gun. This was awhile back.
06-10-2006, 05:31 PM
g60_corrado_91

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaseavey

No he didn't have Ka disabled. It was F'd up. Perhaps it wasn't detecting any band at all but I know he said the LEO was running a Ka band radar gun. This was awhile back.

Well that would suck big time. At least he was still able to get a new one or get that one repaired since you said it was brand new. But that's worse than no RD because you're thinking you have detection but then find out that you have none. :(
06-10-2006, 05:54 PM
amoney

InstantOn radar OR Laser

As far as the officers directing traffic, did you see any radar equipment on the dash, do all officers have radar units, I know not all officers in my city have radar, perhaps they did not have any equipment.

If your detector continues to alert to other known sources, in its regular way, then I would not suspect anything at the moment, you were just spooked that the RD is NOT a cop detector it only detects when radar is ON, and can barely sufficently warn to laser scatter if at all, not to mention laser would have been in the off position unless you seethe officer activly targeting vehicles.

But it would be advisable none the less and take it easy on the speeding untill you can confirm what the officers are using and how they are using (thats funny how that came out). :wink:
06-10-2006, 09:32 PM
PRCA

I'm pretty sure that all RCMP patrol have radar equipment, because I saw that there's radar thing on the dash and at the back, but my detector did react at all. my detector is 8500, not X50. I'll try more times in front of patrol car. but i'm pretty sure that I detected RCMP on Ka Band before. on the other hand, I don't know what equipment are RCMPs using now. Personally, I think Canada is not as rich as U.S., and it's not legal to use RD, so I think there's no point for RCMP to get advanced equipment to hide from RD. Sigh......
06-11-2006, 12:43 PM
Orbital75

Here in Charlotte, NC we have the Charlotte Motor Speedway and State Troopers are everywhere when there is a race. The Troopers park their cars on the side of the road or in the middle of the medium. Pretty much they either sit in their cars or help direct traffic. I have noticed that most ( not all ) troopers have radar in the cars at this event. For some reason or another they have then turned off. Seems to me this is the perfect time to nail people from out of state unfamiliar with our roads and posted speed here in Charlotte. Point being a lot of LEO's have radar in their car but it's not running. Like the others said, I wouldn't worry to much at this time but I would keep an eye on your detector. Hopefully you'll get hit with KA soon to ease your mind that your detector is working properly.
06-11-2006, 01:12 PM
g60_corrado_91

[quote="Orbital75"]I have noticed that most ( not all ) troopers have radar in the cars at this event. For some reason or another they have then turned off. Point being a lot of LEO's have radar in their car but it's not running.quote]

Yeah, I've noticed that in Woodstock too. I would guess almost all of the McHenry County LEO's have radar guns, but almost all of them I've run into have them turned off. However, most of the Woodstock Police do have their's turned on. I don't see the point of turning it off. Why not just keep them on all the time, and nail unexpecting people? Well, I guess it's because most of the LEO's are lazy.
06-11-2006, 03:59 PM
PRCA

Ya, thank you my buddy. I hope I can get Ka hit soon so that I don't have to be too panic for that.
everytime when I see RCMP Patrols, I can clearly see their big radar guns mounted in front of and at the back of dash board. it looks like Microphone. I don't see RCMP use Laser Gun very offen, they're lazy to do that, most of them are driving 100km/h even and catch the traffic from the opposite side. Or, they parked at emergency lane to measure vehicles' speed by using the radar gun mounted at the back dash board.
also, does anyone know that what equipment are Canadaian RCMP using on their highway patrol? I think this is the most important point for us to use RD. personally, I believe that since all the Trans Canada Highway are controlled by RCMP, probably they are using the same equipments.
06-11-2006, 04:13 PM
SmaartAasSaabr

Re: Doubt about my 8500!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRCA

I don't know what happened, I found my 8500 is not working!!!
the story is like this: I drove on highway using my 8500 last week, everything looks good. I was driving around 140-180km/h, but suddenly I found there was a Canada RCMP Police Patrol pulled over a car, however, my 8500 even didn't have any reaction on the RCMP patrol. this was the first time, I told myself that maybe officer turned the radar off or he was using Laser Guy at that moment, so there wasn't any reaction on my 8500. I kept driving, later, I found 3-5 RCPM patrol parked at roadside and control the traffic. However, my 8500 didn't have any reaction at all! what's wrong with it? later, I slowed down, because I counldn't believe my 8500 anymore. but when I came back to town, there was speed reminder on highway which was K Band, my 8500 detected that about 4 miles before that. it doubted me more! why there was no reaction on RCMP patrol but very efficient reaction on K Band speed reminder?
the other story happened yesterday, I was driving on highway, there was a RCMP patrol hided at the side lane, heading the coming traffics, when I saw that patrol, it pulled over one guy, when I drove by, my 8500 still didn't have any reaction. I didn't give up, I made U-turn and come back to try again, it still didn't work. what the F it is? (X Band works well in city, K band can be detected if I try it in front of the Automatic Door)
Is it my 8500's problem or Canada RCMP upgrade there equipment? when I first bought my 8500 in Feb this year, my 8500 helped me a lot on highway and detected Ka Band on patrol car.
Can anybody help me out? thanks a lot!

Whoa 180 km/h! :lol: I can imagine that driving 180 km/h and seeing somebody pulled over with no alert, that could be spooky :lol:

Anyway, most likely the radar was turned off or they used a laser. How much enforcement is there in MB against radar detectors?
06-11-2006, 04:31 PM
PRCA

Re: Doubt about my 8500!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr

Whoa 180 km/h! :lol: I can imagine that driving 180 km/h and seeing somebody pulled over with no alert, that could be spooky :lol:

Anyway, most likely the radar was turned off or they used a laser. How much enforcement is there in MB against radar detectors?

you're right! it would cost me a lot if i was catched at 180km/h! lol~~
I can't image that either! so when I came back town on that day, I was driving like a good boy. 100km/h. :)
I don't know how exactly the enforcement is, but according to the Highway Traffic Act, it's said that the RD is illegal in MB, any RD found in vehicle will be confiscated, except for ticket for speeding, addition charge will be added, it includes charge for using RD, driver's license suspension for couple of month and so on.
Since I got driver's license for 6 years, I got caught 2 times, they all happened 3 years ago. the first time was when I was driving in city, my speed was 83 on 60km/h, i cost me CAD$230 and 2 demerit points; the second time I was driving on HWY, 135km/h on 100km/h, cost me CAD$180 and 2 demerit points.
but you know what, Canada police do nothing except for catching speeding vehicle~!