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Wow, it's dead here........
Anywho, just read a bit on the rather new ZX14R, what a monster. It's easy to think that for a big, 200hp bike out of a crate to do under 10 second 1/4 miles, one after the other, outstanding. I think Suzuki have some work to do to regain the top spot now :wink:
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Would guess that bikes are going into storage up north, and coming out of storage here in the southQuote:
Wow, it's dead here........
Got a great ride this weekend coming up, Tombstone Az...
I'm more interested in how the new Connie shapes up with the ZX14s guts.
At this point how much more power can you put into a street machine and still make it rideable in the real world.
My friend who is what most would call a 'speed demon'... he is good at making anything go fast.
He got on another friends ZX-14R and he ran a 9.95 1/4mile on the stock bike, and that was in less then 5 passes... then they kicked him off the track for going to fast (sub 10.00) without a full-riding suit. :lol:
I've only seen on in person myself (outside of the dealer)... it was a Blue one with a ton of upgrades... what an animal.
I must agree with Spanky how much more insane will the bikes get? The 1K class of sportbikes is unreal... its because the 4 major Japanese manufacturers are all trying to push their bikes into the racing scenes, and therefore they get closer and closer to full-racing tackle on their road-going bikes... just to abide by Homoglation rules.
Totally agree AM :wink: How much more until it's over the top?Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
If you ever get over here to Australia, you have to meet a friend of mine and drink some real beer. He has two speeds, fast and faster :shock:
Remember though, AM. Suzuki and Kawasaki are in the same bed now, as you might know, and have been for a few years, interesting?
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ZX-14 is far from being a race bike, unless it's just drag racing. Going in a straight line, ya it's a monster...but throw in a turn and the bike gives up the ghost. Hate to say it but the Hayabusa is still the top dog. Doesn't matter how much more power or how better the numbers are on a dyno...doesn't mean nothing if it can't produce on the streets.
You obviously love Hayabusa's because...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZOMGBBQSAUCE
1st: No one was claiming it (the ZX-14R) was a racing bike, you brought that out of no where? They just said it was faster then the Busa... and IT IS! The 1000cc Superbikes are well... racing bikes, the Hayabusa is FAR FROM a racing bike.
2nd off: For pure 'speed' (even though they are top-end limited)... the ZX-14R is the king (hold unrestricted hyperbikes), the Hayabusa stock doesn't touch 1/4miles anywhere near the 14, nor does its roll ons.
3rd off:Ask yourself Busa lover: If it wasn't the king of speed in the bike world (the ZX-14R), why would Suzuki be re-vamping their Hayabusa? If the Busa was still the king... no reason to change it... they know they aren't the TOP (speed) dog in the biking world anymore... case closed.
4th: Both the Hayabusa and the ZX-14R are Sport Touring bikes (or) Hyper-bikes, and both are (relatively) bad in the corners compared to the Litre bikes these days (The Superbikes), and the 600cc Supersports.
Not to mention all of the 1000cc Superbikes (Kawi, Yami, Suzuki, Honda), put out near identical horsepower numbers as the Hayabusa, but weigh much less. The Hayabusa is outdated... and it is BY NO MEANS a race-bike, leave that to the Superbikes. So as far as 'putting it down to the streets', the Hayabusa is lacking in nearly every way Vs. the Current Generation Litre Bikes.
I respect your opinion, but its really obvious your a Hayabusa (or Suzuki lover) in general... there is no reason to come on here and just spurt off random comments, because no one before you said anything about the 14R as a true race-bike... just that its the true king of 'speed', and muscle... which by the numbers it is. :wink:
The one key thing you fail to mention... its all about the rider.
Suzuki's GSX-R1300 is old news now and is 2nd behind the new ZX-14R, fact like it or not gentalmen. This happened as soon as the big Kwaka hit the showroom floors and, i'm sure, was no real surprise to the Hamamatsu stable.
What will it take to regain the 'Top Dog' sports tourer throne, who knows exactly. May be a sub 200kg wet diet, 200 RWHP (i wish), more electronically advance gadgets, comfort, it's all or anything.
All i can say is the race to get these awfully large and fast bikes to 299kmh as quick as possible, is a possibility. Although, we all must agree this objective has firmly reignited the four manufacturers interest and consumers attention.
How much harder do you have to hit an ant with a sledge hammer before you kill it, pretty hard me thinks :wink:
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The thing that is really holding bike power back is tires. if you have poor traction and your going 150+mph around a turn your going to die.
I guess your right. You can't argue with physics :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinc
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Who needs turns?
My friend bought a new ZX 14. Prior to that he just had a Harley Sportster. Quite a jump I'd say.
Luckily he has a good head on his shoulders and I doubt he'll do anything stupid. He's not yet hit his first break in level yet so he has not had it over 4000 rpm. Still he says, it's scary fast.
Quoted directly from the Palm Beach Post:
By Stephanie Slater
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 29, 2007
BOYNTON BEACH — Half an hour after picking up his new motorcycle Wednesday, a 26-year-old man crashed it on North Federal Highway and died, police said.
Anthony L. Thompson lost control of the black Yamaha YZF-R1 motorcycle at about 7:45 p.m. and struck a utility pole at 1420 N. Federal Highway, police said. Thompson reportedly bought the bike on Tuesday.
And your point is??? You think we dont know bikes are dangerous? :roll:
Hey, chill man.
As a motorcycle owner for the last 20 years, I was just posting this to promote some conversation about high power bikes and new riders. I'll bet the guy in the article didn't have much experience on bikes(if any).
I started out on a 250, then a 450, etc.
Didn't mean to come off like an ahole or anything.
Its kind of an unfair comparison. The ZX has a 53cc bigger engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadarRick
and at the end of the day, what does it really matter if one bike can do 4 mph faster or .2 seconds quicker in the quarter mile. Fast is fast. At that point it is more about the operator than the machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ES13Raven
Yup, I'm more interested if I can slap some hard bags onto it and ride it for 8 hrs.
That would be interesting Spank :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
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Sounds like a 1200ZZR to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
spankyaf wrote:
How bout an FJR1300A with a few mods? The bike is getting better reviews now(2007) than ever before.Quote:
Yup, I'm more interested if I can slap some hard bags onto it and ride it for 8 hrs.
Ride the '04 with lots of mods :D and yes Yamaha should get credit for continually improving the FJRQuote:
Originally Posted by Buz
We'll have to see how the Connie evolves
Agree, Yamaha is turning out an excellent product now. Come to think of it, it's impossible to buy a bad bike, but so easy to buy a bike that doesn't suit you needs :shock: Think about it :wink:
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I'll stick with a 750 sportbike that's comfortable and looks good.Any suggestions?I'm 5'5".
Many think the current Suzuki 750 is the best sport bike on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcllusb
Ok, cool :) What style of riding do you mainly do?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcllusb
What's your budget?
What's your experience and age too :wink:
I can think of something then 8)
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Why is that? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
Though I love my 750's, Thats hot topic now isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
I have to say though for the road its kinda like a story about a girl and 3 bears:
600's: Too little
1000's: Too much
750's: Just right. :wink:
Actually to be honest the 600 Supersports are more then enough for any public road though, and I dont know anyone who can ride them to their limits, as the pro's do. (Other then in a straight line where you can top them out).
(Then again for 750's... only Suzuki makes them now... Kawi dropped their spectacular and dominating Superbike in 2003... and Yamaha's R7 only had a few ever made).
Wish they made the R7 for the street though.
This is why I love my 929. The 1000's seem a bit too big and bulky for me while the 600 class is a bit too small. I love the feel of my 929. Best bike I've ever owned.
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Originally Posted by JeepinJeff
The newest 1000's are just about identical/smaller then your 929 in nearly every dimension?
As a matter of fact, the ZX-10R for a few years running WAS smaller then its 600counterpart in every dimension besides height (an inch or 2)... and may have weighed just a few extra pounds... so if you think 600's are too small, you better think the 1000's are?
With that said I always liked the sub-litre class Fireblades (900/918/929/954)
Yeah... but:Quote:
Originally Posted by ES13Raven
The ZX-12R was always compared to the Busa, and it was down to it by 99cc's... funny thing was, even though it was down on CC's, it was up on HP compared to the Busa. :lol:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=ZX-12R&hl=en
So I would say 53cc's is fair?
I see your point. :wink:
Well put AM :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
Anywho, give me too much horsepower and let me deal with it :shock:
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I dont think youve ever been on a bmw bike before.. Noone can top the corners better then a k1200r AND its a 1200cc even tho both the busa and the 14 would beat it in a drag race its still an incredibly fast bike. I just got one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
true story:
I ride a 500cc 32hp buell blast, its slow as balls but I can still out corner my buddy on his R1 on the back roads, it not the bike its the driver....... just don't let him get on the highway
Exactly right dude. I know this guy who is quick, even on a CBR250RR :oops: I have to wait untill the straits to catch him up on my VFR800fi :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by styxnpicks
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I really want a white one with the red accents.
they had one at the shop for 6 months and it finnally sold.
My z1000 will work (well) for now, lots of looks and a good 4th bike.
Miss my Vmax though (speaking on bikes that only go straight)
PS
didn't Suzuki buy out Kawa?????
Look first and foremost I am a Hayabusa Owner. I am only bringing this up to show that I have experience with the Hayabusa. Your comment about that the ZX-14 or the Hayabusa cannot do corners like the k1200r is in total error. The hayabusa can get low and take corners fast. It depends on the rider and his/her skill. Now, I am not going to say that I can take corners fast and go low. I never been a great corner driver. Had nothing to do with the bike, but my fear of going to far and wreaking my hard earned bike. However, I have seen people ride busas get low and fast on corners. It has to do with the driver ONLY not the bike. I like all sport bikes and I seen your pics of your bike and I liked it.
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Originally Posted by 8pack
I just rrrove the big Busa, but I agree that it's been dethroned in that class. The engine, the chassis, the package puts more power to use and does it with unprecedented smoothness. The new 08 Busa I haven't seen yet, I hear it's evolutionary. Also, the Busa garners further merit for being so impressive for about a decade!
As for the BMW K1200R, what a wonderful and powerful sport-tourer. But nothing topping corners better than a K1200R? That's a good one! :lol: Though I did come across a guy in the Rockies while I was riding the Million Dollar Highway on my wee VFR...the big K had some deer fur embedded in several spots all down the left side. A deer popped out and smacked the guy as he was passing by. Amazingly the guy kept the bike up.
OK, just to stir the pot up a bit on a thread that's gone cold . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by zr1
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...edici-16RR.jpg
Only 990 cc's, yet produces 220 hp and handles like . . . well, a Ducati. If, like me, you have champagne tastes but a sparkling wine budget, you might pass on the $75K price tag and spring for the new 1098R. It only costs $40K yet will still dance around anything else on the road.
Regardless of how you cut it, now that they are being delivered to customers, the Ducati Desmosedici holds the distinction of being the fastest and best handling production bike in the world.