a guy on one of my Honda Forums is selling a NOS Wet shot Nitrous Oxide kit at a pretty good price............ I was wondering if it would be a good idea to NOS the CL??????
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a guy on one of my Honda Forums is selling a NOS Wet shot Nitrous Oxide kit at a pretty good price............ I was wondering if it would be a good idea to NOS the CL??????
I don't like N2O injection systems because it seems like an ungentlemanly way to increase engine power. It is also costly and easy to make the engine go pop. And ricers like it :lol:
How about bolting a nice little turbo on there :twisted:
No to NOS, spend the money on a turbo, yes the NOS is nice at first but it gets pricey and its what ultimatly destroyed my first car... a toyota Supra :evil: :x It was awsome at first but the extra engine wear isnt worth it. and refilling it....... Get a Turbo, it makes the car faster anyways. NOS isnt all what its set up to be.
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Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
X2, Not a fan of that sort of thing... engines just seem to go POP to often with N20. They (engines) simply werent meant to be running and go..."hey lets dump an extra 25,50,75,100+HP through there. "
Mehhh... well they wan't it, but 99% of them you see don't have N20 because they are too scared of it... and the other 1% you don't see because they have their car in the garage because they threw a rod.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
$$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
Just get a different car if you want to really mod it... one that has a nice base... or heck stop messing around with toys and get a real machine... a bike, nothing like running sub 3second 0-62's completely stock.
thats what I thought would happen...... thans for all the help :D
What $$$. A friend of mine did a turbo conversion on his car, for about $300 Canadian. I know because I sold him the turbo :lol: OK so it was just a stock Saab Turbo setup that he put on, well, a Saab so it was relatively simple :lol:
If you know what you are doing, you can likely grab a Garrett T3 off say a 1980's Mopar K-car derivative (think Dodge Daytona, Chrysler LeBaron...) or potentially a later Mitsubishi unit (TD04?) from same. Almost all the 1980's turbo cars use T3's, both my Saab Turbos and my diesel Mercedes use T3's :lol:
Then just find a way to route the plumbing. The hard part is trying to affix it to the exhaust manifold, and then getting a supply of oil (and coolant if that is the type of turbo) to it. The downpipe is easy but you'll need to fab one up. Now you need a wastegate. Personally I'd put the max boost on the wastegate to be somewhere around 3 psi. Then use a knock-sensor based system to pull it up and down for maximum performance (like APC system). If you put too much boost engine goes pop like with nitrous.
0-100 :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
Get a F-body that's what you want
Apparantly the Honda F-series blocks can take some punishment, theyre mostly cast iron and the cylinders are sleeved with something or another to make um stronger, ive seen stock F22s hold about 10PSI or more
Yeah, for most cars its much more complicated, plus the reliability issues that would arise after and then the time involved my oh my... its not worth it IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
Your on an American forum, we are going to use 62.5MPH my neighbor to the North. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
I do love saying some bikes have a 1:1ratio HP:Weight ... freaks people right out.
:lol:
1:1 P/W ratio.......... thats either a really light bike or a really powerful one.......... best ive seen ia 1HP to every 2 lbs and thats BEFORE RIDER WEIGHTQuote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
The stock spec on my car is 12 or 13 psi... I run more, though rarely these days do I push so hard on the pedal. The block is iron and isn't sleeved with anything, it's also the same as the nonturbo block :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arashi666
The main issue isn't the boost pressure. 13 psi is nothing, at WOT on a naturally aspirated engine you are seeing thousands of psi pressures. It's what pushes the car along after all. There is a kind of pressure "spike" as the fuel begins to ignite. What you have to ensure is this spike occurs after the piston hits TDC. Then the piston is pushed down and the crank turns the right way. If the pressure spike happens before, the flywheel is pushing the crank one way and the piston is pushing the other way. If it's really severe, the rod breaks and goes through the block.
1:1 HP and weight... what about hectograms or something :lol:
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Originally Posted by Arashi666
186HP:186kg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah there are some bikes that have 1HP per every 2 pounds, your correct there.
Some of the racing superbikes were claiming 240HP on 360pounds.
(The biggest problem with bikes is putting all that HP to the ground... one of two things happens:)
1: Tire just slips and slides, but that have all electronic Anti's to combat that, also backing clutches to prevent hop-in upon corner entry... (small contact patches)
2: Front wheel goes up, front wheel is directly over back wheel, front wheel is behind back wheel.
:shock:
...rider falls flat on back, bike falls on top of rider............. game over, rightQuote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
Sounds like you were running a little to much spray, if run at the correct power setting/shots you would have been fine! Running forced induction is much harder on an engine, with a bottle you have to use it sparingly with a turbo or SC your on it all the time (lots more strain on the engine) in the long run!Quote:
Originally Posted by xXCriticizeXx
Exactly...Quote:
Originally Posted by holein1
Nos has always been considered the "poor mans" additive :cry: ,
I run a 150 shot of nitrous (not a honda) for the last 3 years. My car is a street- registered car. As stated above there will always be strain on the engine with turbo or SC.
As for the "turbo being faster anyways" my answer is I will up the nitrous on your a$$.
As for the "ultimately destroyed my car"...It sounds like someone didn't take out enough timing, when they "upped" the shot of nitrous OR your car was not made to handle the increase in HP, in which case "turbo" would have done the same..
On another note I will be switching to SC next year AND keeping at least 125 shot of nitrous :twisted:
I dunno how a mechanical supercharging system would put more strain "always". It's usually only at near WOT conditions that you increase the manifold pressure significantly... 85% of the time the turbocharger just spins freely.
True Smartass,
My bad in wording above..... I will leave it and not edit.8)
Thats why I am changing to SC next year as sated above.
Exactly. Nitrous Oxide is very safe for your car if you do it right and don't greedy. It's the people that don't know how to use it right that give it a bad name.Quote:
Originally Posted by holein1
I know lots of guys running N20 on top of their turbos instead of turning up the boost so they don't put as much strain on their car all of the time.
Arashi, do you plan to use it a lot? Is so, you should just put the money toward other mods because you will just keep dumping money into the bottle.
Oh yeah, and don't let them cops find you with the bottle hooked up.
I had the right amount and the car handled it just fine, it was just the extra power over time that killed the car. Without the N2O the car wouldve probally lasted 2-3 more years.
nah only when I need to or on the strip.....or in case im dumb and need the extra torques to pull me out of something........... I just got sick to my stomach when I could barely outrun a 4th gen Accord (my CL is based off the newer 5th gen accords) off a light one night, it really pissed me offQuote:
Originally Posted by maxima lover
I just need the power on demand at any given time, i wont abuse it
#2 ftw!Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMoore
Nitrous oxide should only be used in the quarter mile.
If your going to use it best to get forged internals.
If you refer to N2O as NOS, you shouldn't have nitrous. The reason your engine didn't like it was because you didn't know what you were doing or your engine was already compromised before spraying.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXCriticizeXx
Nitrous is NOT for "beginners."
BTW, NOTHING comes close to nitrous in terms of "bang for your buck." It is great fun, very safe for you engine (if you know what you are doing) and is cheap as hell compared to a blower.
Its not NOS, its NAAAAAAWWWWWWSSSSSSS..............as seen on the Fast and Furious.
Yes siree. And too much of it will blow the welds off your intake manifold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asleeper
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I used nitrous on a weekly basis with no problems at all. the best thing about nitrous besides the big horsepower gain, is when I get rid of the car I just take it off the old car and put it on the new car with minimal mods
Forced induction FTW 8)
^ Forced-induction + nitrous, FTW. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderingmind
Be it for an added punch on-the-roll or even to help start a massive snail on its way from low-down, it's all good. 8)