I have a black car now does waxing and making it shiny allow the laser to get a reading faster or improve its range ect.. ??? this is including the blinder
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I have a black car now does waxing and making it shiny allow the laser to get a reading faster or improve its range ect.. ??? this is including the blinder
Good question, don't know anyone that has ever tested this, but my guess it would be easier for a laser gun to get a hit
I've thought about this a bit so I'll give you my non-professional take on it.
Shiny surfaces on a car are only bad if they serve to deflect the laser light directly back at the gun. Assuming an officer is roughly in front of you, things like your hood and the top surface of your bumper shouldn't make any difference at all because they would deflect the light upward. In fact, waxing these parts might make your situation better since there will be a lower likelihood of diffusion in other directions. Think about what happens when you shine a light on a mirror that's at an extreme angle. Practically none of the light comes back to you.
Vertical shiny surfaces could be bad. Even if it's black, a glossy surface will reflect plenty of light back toward you. However, if the cop is not directly in front of you then it might actually deflect the light to one side of him since he would see it at an angle.
good point thanks :) still unaswered questions arise
i soppose if you didnt wax your car you'd do more dmage to the paint work!
hey i know, come over to my place and wax my car for me then we will test it and see ;)
Haha Say what Tree did u live in again so we can wax your car and test this????
the big one with pretty flowers..haha
nice NICE should i pick up a 42 pack of beer?
There are so many different factors that affect a lasers preformance.
Talking with The Veill Guy on the way to Tombstone AZ, he said that it is better to have a glossy surface on a FLAT area of the car, but it is not good to have a glossy area on a part that is curving.
New laser diffusion car wax!
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HAHA got to save that pic lol
On the other hand, would a car that's in flat black primer do better in decreasing the range and effectiveness of laser?
Wow, with that quote, I could tell you were from Illinois. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blown Z
I say flat black all the time///
Not that, just the idea of driving a black primer'ed car to reduce laser range.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmaartAasSaabr
Yup, that's how we do it in these here parts :D Where in IL are you from?
From what I understand the color purple actually reflects back the least amount of light and is hardest to see in the dark.
Ok, so let's look at the wax idea.
If you stand over the hood of your freshly waxed car can you see yourself in it? If the answer is yes then we have to conclude light is being reflected back directly from the source. The source of course being light that hit your face bounced off your face and hit the hood. So if you look at the front or back of the car and can also see yourself then once again light if being reflected directly back.
Now if you take some 100 grit sand paper to that hood can you still see yourself? If you answered yes then your a smart person as I didn't ask could you see yourself in the hood.
The bottom line, if it's shinny it's reflective. Without reflection the laser guns don't work. The same is true for radar. The main difference radar can reflect off stuff you can't see.
In theory if you could get paint that was comprised of harmonics of the color of the laser light then you would in effect allow some of the light to be absorbed.
So yes, certain colors of cars would in fact differ on how they reacted to laser light. Then again if they target your headlights or plates it really doesn't matter does it.
Insanity, can you explain to me how purple reflects less light than black. I don't see how this is logically possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by (in)Sanity
They actually wanted to paint the stealth fighters purple (or more of a grape). The exact details of why may have something to do with the colors that are present at nighttime. I would have to research more in to why they wanted to use it for the stealths. In the end they didn't, as no respectable pilot would fly a grape colored plane :) Again it has to have something to do more with nighttime camouflage then true reflectivity. Would be interesting to test.Quote:
Insanity, can you explain to me how purple reflects less light than black. I don't see how this is logically possible.
That would definitely be an interesting test. Take a shiny black, shiny purple, and a car in flat black primer and see how they do in radar/laser tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by (in)Sanity
Well, if the guys doing the research on the stealth planes did their research correctly and I beleive they did. Then a flat dark grape painted car would be the hardest to see visually at night. Even more so then a flat black.Quote:
That would definitely be an interesting test. Take a shiny black, shiny purple, and a car in flat black primer and see how they do in radar/laser tests.
Now laser is a different story, the wavelength used is not in the visible range. So you would have to find a color that you could paint your car that would be a harmonic of the wavelength of the non visible laser.
The best solution is to just not have a shinny surface.
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I wonder how a zinc-chromate primer would do vs radar.
I'm fairly close to the I-57 I-64 junction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blown Z
I am in the west suburban Chicago area and work all over Northern IL.Quote:
Originally Posted by compu44
Nice to see another Illinois resident here. I think there's another member from your area too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blown Z
Note that VEIL has a kind of purplish tint to it, not a complete black or grey.Quote:
Originally Posted by (in)Sanity
Myself I am in a highly polished and always waxed dark grey metallic. Uh oh :shock:
More or less the same concept as coated optics perhaps. The idea being to cancel out reflected light. The light penetrates the headlight instead of reflecting off of it. Do some research on how optical coating works and you'll see what I'm talking about. No clue if that's how the veil works at all. I may just have to get some.Quote:
Note that VEIL has a kind of purplish tint to it, not a complete black or grey.