Is this true or a misinformation :
my friend has a Li and told me his Li will jam immediately
upon a laser encounter but it takes 3 seconds before the
sound alerts in the cabin ...
can't believe that .
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Is this true or a misinformation :
my friend has a Li and told me his Li will jam immediately
upon a laser encounter but it takes 3 seconds before the
sound alerts in the cabin ...
can't believe that .
there was no delay on the prototype unit we tested in AZ when comparing it to my V1
no delay...
Wow not good, you wouldnt want a PT during those 3 seconds, you will be toast!
how about reading the post again???
there is NO delay 8)
don't hear such things
Some people never seem to understand what is written before posting. I've never experienced a delay.
No delay, from my experience, either.
I know from my rather rudimentary IR-LED based "tests" that the response is immediate.
I also know from the LIDAR traps that I've encountered that *all* of my devices alert at the same time - ZR3/9500i, LPP, and LI.
It's like a giant angry electronic music party. :lol:
I can assure you he is mistaken as the others have....
Sometimes my LI was delayed when compared to the V1 but it would still jam... The V1 would sound like 1-2 seconds before the LI went off but again the LI was jamming no problem.
Just goes to show once again the exceptional laser detecing abilities the V1 has....Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewaz
Quote:
Originally Posted by davekr
try to use V1 in car where is LCD in front of V1...
Big no-no...
V1 have realy poor filtering abilities resulting in realy sensitive IR (read Infra RED not LIDAR) detector...
See this video. You see the 3-4 s of delay between jamming and voice alarm.
YouTube - Laser Interceptor delay
LI: rev 2.8, ver 7.00
sensors: ver 8.2
I think you can see what I'm assuming is the LI jamming when he shoots the tester. For some reason, it's taking a bit to give the voice prompt?
I agree with you....Quote:
Originally Posted by ELVATO
I hope it's juste a problem of only one (few) unit which will be quickly changed.
This delay didn't appeared in the videos of Elvis and RacerX (when he showed his heads problem)
i am not able to see video now, but what kind of warning it is giving?
My LI has promptly alerted to both my sat. remote and "beaming" a contact with my phone.
You can see the laser tester setting on the heads (the diodes of both heads are blinking/jamming), then, 3-4 seconds latter, the alarm and the voice start alerting and the switch starts blinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by interceptor
Directly from Ivan... it explains why it does it.
Quote:
V1 alerts sooner, and tis is normal, just thing on those false alerts on V1 Smile also there is another reason why... V1 is mounted INSIDE you car behinde front glass , and LI is out. First inpresion would be that LI have easier job of detecting it because it is out, but main difference is the word detecting.. alerting to it and detecting ANY IR beam and dedicated patern of pulses in IR beam is 2 different stories, also in this case when V1 is behind the glass , this same glass is acting as a one big lens, it is a IR filter (pulse filter) but IR light will come thru, filtered and then hit V1 big ass lense and make alet, so in this case how big is your scrand defines a possibilty to detect (alert) some scater of IR light..
I dont think this is the true explanation.... as soon the jam starts so be the alert ... otherwise the driver will fail to stop the jam in time to avoidQuote:
Directly from Ivan... it explains why it does it.
Quote:
V1 alerts sooner, and tis is normal, just thing on those false alerts on V1 Smile also there is another reason why... V1 is mounted INSIDE you car behinde front glass , and LI is out. First inpresion would be that LI have easier job of detecting it because it is out, but main difference is the word detecting.. alerting to it and detecting ANY IR beam and dedicated patern of pulses in IR beam is 2 different stories, also in this case when V1 is behind the glass , this same glass is acting as a one big lens, it is a IR filter (pulse filter) but IR light will come thru, filtered and then hit V1 big ass lense and make alet, so in this case how big is your scrand defines a possibilty to detect (alert) some scater of IR light..
suspicion
8)
The LI does JTG with every laser gun used in southern ohio plus I have a V1 so it doesn't bother me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloi
Yes , this is fine , but does your Li alerts as soon as the jam starts ?Quote:
'' The LI does JTG with every laser gun used in southern ohio plus I have a V1 so it doesn't bother me.''
The problem with a delayed alert is the 2 or 3 seconds lost
to change the speed / behavior . They always teach us to slow down
within psl then shut the system.
I am sure the system shown on the video has some bug.
By the way , the Li forum is open ... :wink:
I would say it's a 1 or 2 second delay the most. It's not as long as you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloi
By the way , the Li forum is open ... :wink:[/quote]
If it is, I don't see it open, lol. Or I don't get the joke, heh
again, what kind of voice warning?? (unknown gun or specific gun?)
There is a slight delay in the voice alert... JAMMING is instantaneous however when testing my PL2, PL3 and 100LRs.
Unknown gun, as in the video of ElvisQuote:
Originally Posted by interceptor
EDIT:
C55, I agree with you, jamming is instantaneous (and the video shows it).
A 4 seconds delay (for the voice alert) isn't "slight", if you admit that you have to brake 6-8 seconds before shutting the LI down, 4 seconds is now really huge !
The voice alerts came 3 s later.
It seems to say: 'unknown gun jamming desactived. Please slow down'. 'Jamming' is not sure.
At the first time in the video (52 s), it's not the same message but I don't understand.
What can I do to reduce the delay?
From my experience their is a red light intersection in my town equipped with pro laser 3 to detect cars in intersection when light is red. Sometimes the v1 will alert first but then the LI. But i'm positive that the v1 is picking up scatter. With my v1 moiunted high and the LI mounted in the grill. The v1 is able to able to pick up more scatter from the car in front of me.
It's a little off topic and I know it will anger some posters but deserves mentioning, I never shut my jammers off. Since I have been using my LIDAR units regularly, it is quite common for me to clock car after car after car and then occasionally, with all four LIDAR units, some cars just won't clock. Now I know, you guy are going to say that they must be equipped with a jammer but I'm quit confident they are not but rather are just random cars that are anomalies that just won't read. I've spoken to a handful of LEOs that I run across who work with me in my business and they too experience this and do not think it is a jammer. Maybe were all wet but that's my two cents worth.
Back on topic now..... sorry for the digression! Where were we?? Oh yeah, Voice Alerts..... in testing done with my wife and myself, same here, V1 alerts, short delay, LI alerts but my LIDAR units read NOTHING (are effectively jammed) despite the obvious delayed Voice Alert from the LI, I've confirmed this countless times with our Nextels during testing.
Cliff - C55
Better immediate jamming with voice delay than the other way around.
How do members of Parliament says it "Here, Here"
In fact, in this case... hum... we don't care about V1.
The problem isn't "my V1 alerts before my LI", it's "my LI stats jamming without alerting me, so I can't know that I'm lidarized and I can't brake, finally I get busted because I've not been able to shut the LI down earlier"
Syrinx, I think it's "... gun, jamming sequence is activated, please..." ;)
I think that is unlikely to ever happen. Lets see a show of hands of those who were pulled over and arrested for having a jammer that was detected while driving through a LIDAR trap please! I am excluding those fools to wantonly drove in circles repeatedly through LIDAR traps to drawer the guise of even a blind and deaf LEO! Those don't count!
is LED on switch starting to aler promptly on that video?
No, the LED on the switch starts blinking with the voice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by syrinx
Can you (or anyone) run the same test with a real recognizable lidar gun?
It is reasonably that it is trying to match a pattern with its database of guns but cannot, and so there is a delay in reporting when it is unrecognizable. Are the alerts more responsive with a real gun?
This delay may also be good at filtering out false alerts from infinities, sun shadows, etc. To be safe it always immediately starts jamming, but does not bother you as much.
Just an idea...
Also, youtube videos are notorious for having the sound and video out of sync, but I'm sure you experienced the problem in person.
yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by carlsson
The problem is real. It appends with a TV remote too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwardell
I understand what you think Jwardell (particularly with filtering out false alerts), I don't know if it's possible to Syrinx to test with a recognizable lidar gun but if it was, the problem would be the same in front of an unknown lidar gun...Quote:
Originally Posted by jwardell
For this video, Youtube works fine, the voice and the led of the switch are synchronized, we can see that the diodes of the heads starts blinking as soon as the tester is ON ; Plus Elvis used an "unknown" tester too in his video that didn't show any delay.