Instant On - Hand Held Gun ?

I travel from Long Island NY to Upper West Chester for work 4 days a week. I know all the usual traps and the V1 is excellent for catching the off/odd places for regular Radar guys.

I have noticed that in one particular trap, just over the Throgs Neck Bridge and after the split for George Washington Bridge (so - going North on I95) there is a spot where the LEO sits, using the standard parked perpendicular to the road trap. Shooting with something to his head, looking through it, I always assumed it was a Laser Speed Measure device. However I have mostly been catching odd, what seems like Instant On KA bursts and NO Laser alerts...Now I realize, that I may not be the one targeted so I may not get the laser alert - but I do just find the whole thing odd...

I do know the V1 Laser Detector work - cuz I see it go off with nice Infiniti cars coming at me :(

Let me know your thoughts gang...

If he's holding it up to his eye and looking through it then it has to be a lidar unit. There is the possibility he has a Ka handheld unit sitting on the passenger seat and he left it on. There have been several reports of things like that happening.

Well, normally if the officer is "sighting" a speed measurement device it's laser. But, some handheld radar guns DO have "sights" that can be lined up for targeting purposes, even though this isn't all that necessary. So it *could* have been instant-on Ka, and the officer was just being a bit overly conscientous about his targeting, but this would be a bit odd though IMHO.

The Plano PD likes to leave their Ka C/O on enforcement days. Today every cop out has C/O Ka on. I got hit by 3 different units just going to work.

Sounds like laser to me. If the LEO has a steady hand and good aim, he can target you often without the V1 alerting at all. They usually aim for the front plate or headlight, down low, so a windshield mounted detector may not see the beam at all. Or it's possible he isn't targeting every car, just ones that "look" like they're speeding.

I've never seen a handheld radar gun with a sight scope. There's no need for one, except on lidar units.

Infinitis send out a wider beam and it isn't being aimed precisely, so V1s pick up on those easily, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

If he's holding it up to his eye and looking through it then it has to be a lidar unit. There is the possibility he has a Ka handheld unit sitting on the passenger seat and he left it on. There have been several reports of things like that happening.

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Okay i'm so WAY WAY off topic, but you v1 guys will like this :P

while back the way i drove home from work everyday, they setup alot of radaring under a bridge in the middle of the road, they love the damn spot

one day though, i was racing with this big dumbass from work, hated the guy, but he wanted to race his saturn vs my impala ss(i miss that car :(), so were racing up the hill and as we turn and head down the hill i start getting a ka with my v1, so i'm like crap, i move over and slow down, as i get a bit farther down the hill, i see the cop, he's not in the middle, actually on the same side of the road as me, on the shoulder, holding his lidar gun aiming at people

he forgot to turn his radar off :P, so i realize, and i look over and theres my dumbass coworker flying past me, we both pass the cop, and i thought i saw him walking back to his car, but i turned off like .1mile from where he was, so i'm like 'ha, he probably got pulled over'

went into work that night, he got a ticket for going like 90 in a 65 :P

anywyas sorry to hijack your thread, just remembered that story from the guy aboves post! :)

There have been numerous posts about this phenomenon. To me it's absolutely hilarious and I would love to get a video of it. :lol:

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Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

There have been numerous posts about this phenomenon. To me it's absolutely hilarious and I would love to get a video of it. :lol:

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What phenomenon ?

Because the story that Kayrac describes I see almost 3 out of the 4 days I drive to work. In Ny where I am at work, the road I-684 has known spots where you are just guarenteed to see cops sitting in the median. And like clockwork, I am driving, well above PSL, and I see the Ka alert, usually over a mile from where a known spot is. I drop out of the left lane - dump into the middle or right and watch everyone flow past me and then JAM the brakes when they get to the clearing and see the cop(s) sitting there....

Its amazing. You would think that when the cars got closer to ambush point, the rabbits infront jamming on brakes would give them a heads up... most of the time I see the people following doing the same thing.

Now - back to my original question....
I will pay better attention through this speed trap and get over to the right lane so I can see the cop better. Maybe one day if there is enough time I will get off and double back so that I can drive down the onramp right next to him so I can see the gun and signal strength.

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Originally Posted by shozBots

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Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

There have been numerous posts about this phenomenon. To me it's absolutely hilarious and I would love to get a video of it. :lol:

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What phenomenon ?

Because the story that Kayrac describes I see almost 3 out of the 4 days I drive to work. In Ny where I am at work, the road I-684 has known spots where you are just guarenteed to see cops sitting in the median. And like clockwork, I am driving, well above PSL, and I see the Ka alert, usually over a mile from where a known spot is. I drop out of the left lane - dump into the middle or right and watch everyone flow past me and then JAM the brakes when they get to the clearing and see the cop(s) sitting there....

Its amazing. You would think that when the cars got closer to ambush point, the rabbits infront jamming on brakes would give them a heads up... most of the time I see the people following doing the same thing.

Now - back to my original question....
I will pay better attention through this speed trap and get over to the right lane so I can see the cop better. Maybe one day if there is enough time I will get off and double back so that I can drive down the onramp right next to him so I can see the gun and signal strength.

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Getting someone to race and then having your V1 go off... you stop. He runs straight into a ticket.

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Originally Posted by erickonphoenix

There have been numerous posts about this phenomenon. To me it's absolutely hilarious and I would love to get a video of it. :lol:

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There IS a video of it, the one where the WRX and the BMW were racing and both got blasted with IO K, only out of sheer luck the lead car ran a rd light, straight into the hands of the cop.

Classic idiocy :)

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while back the way i drove home from work everyday, they setup alot of radaring under a bridge in the middle of the road, they love the *BEEP* spot

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What kind of radaring under a bridge do you mean?

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one day though, i was racing with this big dumbass from work, hated the guy, but he wanted to race his saturn vs my impala ss(i miss that car Sad), so were racing up the hill and as we turn and head down the hill i start getting a ka with my v1, so i'm like crap, i move over and slow down, as i get a bit farther down the hill, i see the cop, he's not in the middle, actually on the same side of the road as me, on the shoulder, holding his lidar gun aiming at people

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Wow! I'm sure you were stoked. What a day for you! That is a great story. But I'm sure other High-End Detectors would do the same since you just said that he left his Ka Radar on.

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he forgot to turn his radar off Razz, so i realize, and i look over and theres my dumbass coworker flying past me, we both pass the cop, and i thought i saw him walking back to his car, but i turned off like .1mile from where he was, so i'm like 'ha, he probably got pulled over'

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I'm sure he was like "I won!", there had to be no way for him to get a warning for going that fast.

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went into work that night, he got a ticket for going like 90 in a 65 Razz

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That is hilarious! he better not be a dumbass anymore.

Great Story!

The phenomenon they are talking about is a LEO running lidar while forgetting to turn off their radar gun, thereby giving the RD user a heads up about the speed trap before their vehicle is within lidar range.

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Originally Posted by djrams80

The phenomenon they are talking about is a LEO running lidar while forgetting to turn off their radar gun, thereby giving the RD user a heads up about the speed trap before their vehicle is within lidar range.

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Well - I can attest to seeing this in my described situation above, there are never any other Ka alerts in that area (unless its another LEO) but this recent thing of seeing the LEO in the grass on the right of the road and seeing him hold the "device" to his head - I was not expecting to hear Ka alerts. But I have been.

The reason why I asked about Instant On is that even when I get infront of his car - its not very strong - always weak coming in an out like it was I/O.

Otherwise, on I-684 you see - for the most part, either a LEO with Laser to his head and no alerts (except rabbits braking hard) OR you have Ka alerts and then you see that there are more than 1 LEO and I just "assume" that one car has radar on and the other car is using Laser.

I dunno - I know that this was a good discussion :)

Yeah I've had that happen too, I think in that case the cop was running LIDAR to pick off dense traffic, not particularly just to defeat radar detectors

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Originally Posted by djrams80

The phenomenon they are talking about is a LEO running lidar while forgetting to turn off their radar gun, thereby giving the RD user a heads up about the speed trap before their vehicle is within lidar range.

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Yea, most likely, or maybe the leo is wanting to trick them into thinking its "only constant on radar" which is a lot easier to defeat. :)This way he could set you up to keep your speed up and then bam. Nails you

I am just very paranoid. Even when I see vehicles on the side of the road I worry. One time I see a leo shooting instant on from behind a civilian car that appeared to be broken down.

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while back the way i drove home from work everyday, they setup alot of radaring under a bridge in the middle of the road, they love the *BEEP* spot

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What kind of radaring under a bridge do you mean?




theres a big hill, that you go up, and then turn to the left about 70 degrees, then head down it, at the bottom is a overpassing/bridge and right after that in the median is a cop/emergency turn around, they usually sit there