Spring Hill, Florida, a quad setup for $775... on flea bay?
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Spring Hill, Florida, a quad setup for $775... on flea bay?
There's a couple users here from Spring Hill, Fl. Wonder if it's one of them?
If they're real with serial numbers intact, they should still have some warranty left.
It's C55.
You selling your LI, C55? So you don't have one anymore?
Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. :D
Cliff - C55
I got mine back in Oct 2007, what different about the new system?Quote:
Originally Posted by C55
Someone correct me here but updated Stalker Jam Code and if you had one of the run with the poor head sealant, that too!
More will be available from the same site shortly.
congrats to the new NA distributorQuote:
Originally Posted by C55
Thanks!
I am the tentative, new LI Distributor for North America. This may change but I am doing my best to show that I am the best choice for the immediate and near future.
At my suggestion to LI and with their full agreement, I will also keep spare CPUs as well as sensors, for warranty purposes, in stock to finally put an end to the LI Customer Service issues and address the hassle of having to ship and pay for going to Croatia for replacement warrantied parts. Customer Service is paramount! Although I believe they have been all addressed, if you are an LI user who still has heads with the poor sealant problem, you need to contact me ASAP that I may have replacement heads sent to me with the initial shipment! Once I receive your old heads, I will USPS Priority Mail your replacements immediately at my expense!
Upgrades and software changes and development will still be under the rubric of LI in Croatia! Prices will be based on the value, or lack thereof, of The US Dollar versus The Euro so expect price changes accordingly. To get the bad taste out of everyones mouth, I am offering a discount off the LI List prices for a short period and absorbing this myself. I am only selling to buyers in North America (USA, Canada and Mexico) to respect the sales territories of the other Authorized LI Distributors Worldwide. LIs will ship the same day as payment is received pending stock availability.
I too have been following the LI saga as well and have been on the purchaser's end so I know all to well, as we all do, what needs to be done and am going to get it done!
I am available for support, suggestions, comments etc. and to answer questions or addressing problems with the product etc. As to anything regarding sales and out of respect to the Forum, I cannot answer or post that info here. Please see forum rules/guidelines.
Feel free to PM or email me should you have questions.
Cliff - C55
30 Years in the Customer Service Industry!
Laser-Interceptor of North America - Website Coming Soon.
OK, I'm soooooo confused right now.... :?:
C55 :arrow:
So you're the "distributor," correct? Are you also selling the LI to end-users - i.e., are you a "retailer," as well?
But at the same time, there is a specific "Laser Interceptor USA" website, with a phone contact of 602 area code (Arizona), and with e-mail contact listing that corresponds to Elvis ?
I'm SERIOUSLY confused, at this point.
And yes, I'm still waiting to see about getting a rear UltraSlim setup - but I really need for things - such as this current distribution/retail/resale - issue, to be put to-bed.
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Somebody, please clear this up.
And Ivan/interceptor, I really do think that you need to come here to clear this up as well. Exactly what is going on, here? You've mentioned on another thread that Elvis was and is still in the game, but at the same time, have posted also your PMs with others in which you seem to severely discount Elvis's involvement.
To us end-customers, I hope you can see how confusing this all is - and why it makes us so hesitant to either make purchases or recommendations for the LI. :( :x
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As well, someone PLEASE address these residual questions:
(1) If we do have a "first US batch" (Rev2.7, Ver6.09) LI, but are NOT currently seeing signs that are typical of the water/moisture-ingress problem, should we still return the heads/CPUs ? i.e. will our heads fail, some time down the line, akin to the LPP/AL "time bomb" issue?
(2) For "first US batch" LI purchases - we now have seen issues with jamming of the Stalker LZ-1 on these early models (which were exploited by some less-than-ethical individuals to propagate their own profits). How can we protect ourselves properly against the LZ-1? Should we send our heads and/or control-boxes back to the distributor/retailer for update/upgrade? or is a firmware reflash/update coming soon?
[ Edited for mistake in Rev. number ]
I believe there are two distributor :D
I can't speak to Elvis and his relationship with LI. Retailer/distributor is a matter a semantics. :) Buy from whom you desire and who has stock available. :wink: Again, I respect and do not want to violate the Forums Rules so please email or PM me for specifics.
At least Cliff's responses look mature, compared to the original "I look cool" responses of Elvis :)
As the world turns so does our days of our lives :lol: :lol: :lol: This jammer industry cracks me up you have people popping out of nowhere being distributors :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
so who is the LI distributor for USA?
I believe it is "Like sands through the hour glass, so are the Days of Our Lives".
I am hoping to and my goal is to restore confidence in LI not add to the confusion.
Thanks!
Cliff - C55
Perhaps it would be best to hear from Ivan and Vedran to satisfy everyone.
Thanks!
Cliff - C55
Leon from Blinder only lives miles away he will come over there a whip that a$$ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by C55
^ Indeed.
This particular concern, as well as the technical ones (the two that I'd posted as follow-up; which also have been repeatedly asked here on RD.net, as well as appears on the LI Forums themselves [but also remain un-answered there, as well]) would certainly be put to-bed if the LI priciples would simply *definitively* clear up such issues for us.
On a side-note, thanks, Cliff. :) I'm looking forward to this, too.
While I have my own thoughts on these inquiries and know how I would handle it, I will ask Vedran these two questions and reply with his response as soon as I have it.
Fair enough?
Thanks!
Cliff - C55
Actually, I believe that Leon lives in the other coast of Florida!
Cliff - C55
It does not matter where he lives he is an ex UFC champ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by C55
I'm an ex KFC champ so we should get it on..... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by happya$$
KFC?Quote:
Originally Posted by charles charlie charles
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07...age/60_kfc.jpg
:wink:
^ :lol:
Thanks for the quick response, C55. :)
Honestly, this kind of Forum presence as well as readiness to tackle the issues is exactly what LI needs, in order to not only re-establish their presence here, stateside, but also to reclaim much of the hobbyist community faith that had been recently tarnished.
^ Well said! X2!
It is my pleasure!
Cliff - C55
this isn't a definite answer, but Ivan said on LI board:
"Elvis is still distro... we are talking to few people for rep-.--"
so this may clear things a bit... still waiting for his post here :D
^ That's what I meant .... to clarify exactly what's meant between all the different things that Ivan has said about the stateside distribution/retail/resale chain.
On the LI Forums as well as here, Ivan has said that Elvis remains active, stateside. However, at the same time, he's posted mysterious messages on LI to suggest that's not necessarily going to be the case (i.e. "after March 10"), as well as posted PMs that he's exchanged with others which seem to paint a very negative picture of what's going on between him and Elvis.
Yet, at the same time, the "Laser Interceptor USA" website, as-linked off the Laser Interceptor main homepage, points to Elvis as still being the main stateside seller of the LI, with both his e-mail contact as well as a 602-prefix (US - Arizona state) telephone number as the main contact.
I understand that C55 is eager to get things set right, with respect to the position of LI here in the US, to overcome the negativity and to get things back on the ball again.
I am very glad to see this happening (both as an LI user as well as in having always been hopeful of the best from LI), and I think that the LI's principles owe him/his efforts the courtesy of a show-of-support, to come forward and definitively answer the questions and concerns - both regarding the product "selling" chain (to abolish, once and for all, the confusion of "distributor," "retailer," and such terms), as well as the residual technical concerns.
as i understood the main problem with elvis was that he wasn't serious enough as LI rep. for USA... as ivan said in his e-mail to elvis it's a full time job not a few hours a day...
the main thing is to make clear what is a difference between distributor and representative... i think that rep. can be only one and there can be more than one distributor in USA market. and rep. is responsible for all of them (to take care of any problem locally) and then deal with LI directly... correct me if i'm wrong... :o
Makes perfect sense to me. I am willing to take on the lesser role of the retailer but I am at the beckoned call of the powers at LI.
Thanks!
Cliff - C55
Nothing has changed since my last post about it...
I love the panic someone has trying to create..
Elvis is distributor, REP place is still open...
Talking to few people, and will be anounced on our web, portal, and forums..
It'll look more like an under the table drug deal. Leon will be buying LI's....Quote:
Originally Posted by happya$$
I don't know if you're speaking about me, or someone else, Ivan.Quote:
Originally Posted by interceptor
I, for one, am *_NOT_* trying to incite panic.
I am merely stating the obvious - that I, as an LI product user as well as, as far as I can tell, currently-planned future return customer - simply am confused as to who/what is going on.
On the LI Forums as well as here, you implied that something drastic would change after March 10.
Then, when the "Four Horsemen" tried to discredit the LI (and you should remember here that I was among the first to defend the LI as well as the GOL, repeatedly, in many Forums) by also bringing the involvement of Elvis into the picture, your own posts of various PMs brought into question, for ALL of us, whether or not you were continuing your relationship with Elvis.
Later, your posts then seemed to confirm that everything between you and Elvis was - and remains - the same as ever, despite the tones taken in the aforementioned PMs.
Now, a new retailer/reseller/distributor (whatever the terminology, a new "seller") pops up, with, at the time, no announcement of support from the LI principles.
What are we, as the end-customers, supposed to think?
Put yourself in our shoes. Can you not see our confusion?
If you will recall in any and all of my past posts, I've always been a supporter of the LI effort. Certainly, at the beginning, when the product launch here was repeatedly delayed (and when Roy himself locked and then deleted the LI Conference), I did have (and shared) my doubts - but at that time, so did many other of your current customers, of whom I'm also among the mix.
If you'll check other automotive Forums on which I am involved (anything from the USDM BL/BP-chassis Subaru Legacy enthusiast Forum to something as small as my local Subaru enthusiast Forum to something as large as the Edmunds Forums), you will see that I have consistently maintained a factual presentation of the LI efforts.
By far, rest assured, I am not trying to incite any kind of panic.
If you have your doubts about me, you have but to look at *any* of the historical evidence that is recorded in these many forums to paint for you the actual and true picture.
I am simply a customer who has been confused by all the fuss and drama that has surrounded the LI - and I am not alone, there are many both here as well as even on the LI Forums (where again, my participation in helping to answer questions as well as sharing my installation, etc., should signify my position within the LI user community) who share these questions, but have had them fall on deaf ears.
I would simply like for you, the person at the end of all of this, to come forward and clarify such questions and settle our concerns, so that for those of us who make recommendations to others, we can do so with a clear understanding of what's going on, as well as for those of us who are looking to be repeat customers, to have, in our hearts, content in knowing that we will be buying from trustworthy sources.
Stop thinking that everyone - including your customers - is out to get you. You've repeatedly engaged in hostilities between yourself and customers who simply have honest and true questions (recall your spats with charles charlie charles, do you now, finally, see that he simply had questions?).
Yes, undoubtedly, some people will have their own agenda - but the vast majority of your paying customers, such as myself, simply want a product that works well, and simply want to know that we will enjoy proper support, down the road.
Don't fall to the level of those individuals - don't fall prey to the drama.
Look at what the actual questions are, and address them, please, so that we can continue to be happy customers, and know that we enjoy the support of the entire LI team.
For those of you who asked about more of these, a search on Flea-bay will answer your question.
Cliff - C55
So cliff, are you a north american dealer or what answer the question...?Quote:
Originally Posted by C55
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You selling your LI, C55? So you don't have one anymore?
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Nope! Bought three, only installing two of them. Just have the one Quad unit remaining. Received this week direct from LI in Croatia. Latest Heads, 2 slims for rear and 2 full-size for fronts and latest CPU version. Full 2-year Unlimited Factory Warranty for those who asked. Very Happy
Cliff - C55
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OK, I don't like causing trouble. :oops:
But someone, please, from the LI team - clarify this one for us.
It seems that C55 and Elvis have some sort of dispute.
Exactly who are we supposed to take our business to, here, stateside?
Elvis has always maintained that he's the go-to-guy, here in the US. And despite some publicized PMs/e-mails from Ivan, in the past, that more than hinted at problems, Ivan has very recently re-vested Elvis, both with public declaration of affiliation as well as with a spot on the Laser Interceptor Forums.
C55 is a known fixture around here as a true hobbyist and enthusiast - however, he burst onto the scene one day as an eBay LI reseller, and when the issue came to-light here, claimed that he'd been tapped as the new US distributor - to which the LI team has yet to vest/confirm....
Please, Ivan/LI team, for the sake of your customers here (and please note that I am *not* trying to create trouble - I'm a repeat LI customer, myself, and simply want to know what to do both should I ever have any trouble with my LI units, as well as who to take my future business to), clear this up for us. :!: