LPP Fails!

Ok, I don't expect infalliblity, but...

I was lasered today by a rather cute looking Leo-ette, all blond and everything, and my V1 goes off to announce I'm getting laser, but my LPP doesn't go off.

I was going the psl through this will known radar trap, but it surprised me that LPP didn't do it's thing.

Till now, I've been targetted 4 times on the highway, and had definite saves on 3 of them. No doubt, those times, I was farther away when targeted.

Here also, there is a gentle bend in the road, arcing to the right, and Leo-ette was on the inside of the arc. I was unable to upload the google earth photo to photobucket to share with you, but it's a pretty gentle curve, looking at it. Could be "off axis", but that would be surprising.

Another factor is the road is coming down hill. Again, a gentle slope.

I notice the LPP's relatively crap performance against 100pps guns. Are these laser guns common in North America? Canada?

Anyone have any idea what the h3ll happened?

Scary... I'm a fellow Calgarian... care to say where this happened?

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Originally Posted by Doc What, son?

I notice the LPP's relatively crap performance against 100pps guns. Are these laser guns common in North America? Canada?

Anyone have any idea what the h3ll happened?

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The First thing you need to establish is if you have the 100pps upgarde

Second of all the LPP owns the 100pps gun with the revised CBox (Its actually easier to jam a 100pps UL than a 125pps UL so i believe)

Third thing refers to the first to check if you have the 100pps upgrade check how many flashes it takes to run into permanent mode AFAIK its 12 flashes on a 100pps box and 23 or so on a non-100pps box.

Believe me that gun is lethal if you've the old firmware :O ..I was lasered back a few months ago (I knew he was there) and the rx65 scremed LASER ALERT but the LPP stayed quiet. I was like WTF so i go onto KMPH and sent back the contoleer box to be upgraded to a cbox. I didn't realise how important the update was until last week when i had a rear save -v- 100pps !!!!!!!!!!!
Mousie should field any questions you have on this matter ;)

^ +1.

Also, check your mounting level/aim, too.

And, of-course, check that the head is still operational, as well as clean!

Good tips, guys. I confirmed,as soon as I got to my destination, that it was operational, as far as parking sensor mode goes (I'm sure that guy didn't mind me parking up his tail pipe like that).

I'm pretty sure I have the 100pps upgrade, as that was discussed when I had to send it back, but I'll check as described.

Delgar, this was the spot heading West on 16th Ave going down the hill into Montgomery. It's an all too familiar fish-in-a-barrel location. Speed changes from 70k to 50 k, and they wait by the cross walk.

Keep us posted Brent.......

I wonder if it's possible if the V1 just picked up scatter and you where never targeted?

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Originally Posted by thestaton

I wonder if it's possible if the V1 just picked up scatter and you where never targeted?

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Good point staton.....being how I am partially responsiblie for Brent having a LPP I contacted mouse....

May I add once again i don't even think it's 6am there and within 5 minutes I had an email back!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Mouse confirmed all LPP boxes since May 2007 have the upgrade......

I will also add i have been absoloutely floored by the V1's ability to pick up scatter......

yes u better get that fixed! but leo-ette!!! o0o new vocab word!

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Originally Posted by thestaton

I wonder if it's possible if the V1 just picked up scatter and you where never targeted?

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^ Very good point - and I can't believe I missed this one!

Honestly, this is *very* possible. Particularly with such a sensitive laser detector as the V1, and even more so if the detector is high-mounted and in optimal position to see scatter, reflections, and down-road painting of other vehicles.

Even with my 9500i, I've had this experience.

Doc, what's your physical LPP setup like (how many heads, where are they placed, etc.)? Could it have contributed to perhaps the jammer not "seeing" the scatter/etc.?

I'm as sure as I can be that I was targeted. With the V1, when I hear laser, I look for Infinities, and their ilk. But no, it was leo-ette, standing, in Freudian-esque fashion, up against the light post, shooting traffic with her gun.

Could be a coincidence, she didn't target me, and I got scatter from somewhere, but that seems a pretty unlikely coincidence.

I'll check that my head is level. The lens was pretty clean, though.

OK, I've been trying photo bucket, and here's a link to the pic:

LPPfailure.gif - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Ack! There's gotta be a better way to link to photos. What a squandering waste of electrons, to have an address that long....

So, anyway, maybe you can see the line I drew on the picture. I believe I was at that distance when targeted. You can kind of see that as I come down the hill, moving in the photo from right to left, on my right there are bushes that run the length of that park. It's when you come around the bend, and into view from behind those bushes, that Leos, and now Leo-ettes alike, take aim.

Picture is super small! :eek::p About 1 and 1/2 inch, square, on my screen! Can't enlarge!

I think it's time to check the control box DOC......1 flash 2 flash......;)

I will bet you money you didn't get hit doc.....one time I was over a creek driving North along a very busy Interstate a trooper shot a car approx 1/3 mile to the west of me and 1/2 mile north of my location and the V1 screamed out......

Since you where going the speed limit I think it's a very good possibility, you where not targeted. Of all the problems with jammers, this is one I don't think LPP has had problems with.

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Originally Posted by thestaton

Since you where going the speed limit I think it's a very good possibility, you where not targeted. Of all the problems with jammers, this is one I don't think LPP has had problems with.

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Nor is it the only jammer to experience this Doc.......:D

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...aser-what.html

Sorry about that pic.

The first few tries, it wouldn't up load. Then, in GIF format, the thing is the size of a postage stamp. Grrr.

Good points guys. Getting the laser warning, and seeing her with gun in hand, I, of course, made an inference. But you're right that the V1 seems to be super laser sensitive.... This place is a real trap, cause people come flying down that hill. It's wide open, it's a nice little curve in the road. Fun to drive fast, and then, bam, psl changes 100 yards or so before you get back into the residential / business district there, and so people are usually going fast there. It's a real turkey shoot. But with me at psl... makes a lot of sense that she didn't even bother.

Now...if I can just find some more local in-town laser traps to test out my jammer (at psl....)

I appreciate your help guys. Really good, logical help from you lads!

This is by far the best free map program I have found:

Web browser and Live Maps are incompatible

Use the Bird's eye view. It doesn't work everywhere, buy generally you can get to within 20 yards.......It's pretty good.......;)

www dot maps dot live dot com

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Originally Posted by Doc What, son?

Sorry about that pic.

The first few tries, it wouldn't up load. Then, in GIF format, the thing is the size of a postage stamp. Grrr.

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:lol: Don't worry about it, I'm about as computer-(il)literate. :p I'd likely have done the exact same thing!

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Good points guys. Getting the laser warning, and seeing her with gun in hand, I, of course, made an inference. But you're right that the V1 seems to be super laser sensitive....

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Given the huge optical collimator assembly on the V1, if it is high-mounted, it can definitely "get the drop on" the LPPs, in terms of scatter/reflection/down-road detection.

Like I said, I've had instances of that - as well as "early detection, over-the-crest" - from even my high-mounted 9500i, alerting before any of my jammers (LPPs included). I can only imagine how your, as well as my own past, situation(s) might have played out, with a V1.

Was the sun facing directly at the jammer heads?

^ Very good point!

Nope, sun was pretty much over head, though i was travelling West. It was High Noon, or there abouts.

Good idear, though. First thing I did was look for Infinities, since I get their laser guided cruise setting me off, but no infiniti. Just ... that sweet blond thing, ever affectionately to be known as Leo-ette. ~sigh~

Shouldda sped up!

(Right, then, up close, it would turn out she's more of a butch-ette..., and my frisking fantasy would never be the same again).