Weak notice on Ka this AM. WTF?

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06-30-2008, 05:50 AM
RadarKid

Weak notice on Ka this AM. WTF?

This AM on my normal commute to work, I encountered 2 LEO's. One was a State Trooper pulled to the side shooting C/O Ka on the opposite side of the highway facing traffic on my side. The Ka warning didnt seem to be too much before I reached him and I was kind of disappointed. But 5 minutes later as I exited the highway, I came down the ramp and up the hill a bit there was a town cop pulled over at a 90degree angle from the road which is a fairly slight incline from where you come off the highway. He was well within eyesight on Corys Lane long before I received an alert. As I passed it seemed as though he was shooting C/O Ka straight across the road as opposed to down the road where we were exiting the highway. Is this why I didnt have much warning? You can see from the two locations that it didnt give much prior warning (approx 1000 ft)

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/uploa..._227_95253.jpg
06-30-2008, 06:13 AM
dagored

I see your 9500 has been returned. Is it the same unit? I have read some of your posts. I too, would be a bit disappointed if my unit functioned as yours.

I have not had any problems with my 9500. I get way to much, if that is a problem, advance notice with my unit. I, however, live in a sparsely populated area and no city driving whatsoever.

I have received warnings up to a mile away. There are rolling hills and many curves on my roads. Strait highways are far and in between.

Can you try another unit or use it in a different car in a different location in the car?
06-30-2008, 06:19 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagored

I see your 9500 has been returned. Is it the same unit? I have read some of your posts. I too, would be a bit disappointed if my unit functioned as yours.

I have not had any problems with my 9500. I get way to much, if that is a problem, advance notice with my unit. I, however, live in a sparsely populated area and no city driving whatsoever.

I have received warnings up to a mile away. There are rolling hills and many curves on my roads. Strait highways are far and in between.

Can you try another unit or use it in a different car in a different location in the car?

My 9500i was returned ONLY because of a firmware issue where the left half of the digital screen was remaining blank until reset. Apparently its a known problem. They sent me a brand new one. I've had it back since this past Thursday when I'd reported weak notice on a K band sign. I'm not blaming the 9500i for this, because for all I know it could've been the specific situations each time, but its a little wierd that 3 different situations were weak notices. I wish all my driving was highway..it'd be MUCH easier to deal with avoiding LEO's for the most part.
07-01-2008, 03:15 AM
KaPro

Radarkid,
That is exactly why you did not get much "advanced" warning. Ka band is tough enough to detect from straight on let alone a 90 degree angle.
07-01-2008, 05:07 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaPro

Radarkid,
That is exactly why you did not get much "advanced" warning. Ka band is tough enough to detect from straight on let alone a 90 degree angle.

thanks for the info!
07-01-2008, 09:13 AM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaPro

Radarkid,
That is exactly why you did not get much "advanced" warning. Ka band is tough enough to detect from straight on let alone a 90 degree angle.

x2. the 90 degree one sounds normal. The other one depends on allot of factors.
07-01-2008, 09:18 AM
RadarKid

I've noticed that the NEWER LEO Charger's in our area have extremely powerful Ka radar. I pick them up further away than others, and the detectors go ballistic as you/they get closer. They must've souped up the Dodge Chargers with the top of the line equipment, and the older Crown Vics have older technology.

Even the State Troopers (all Crown Vics) seem to have less strength for Ka than the local town LEO's with the Chargers.

http://www.swiftindavis.com/sblog/me...rgerpolice.jpg
07-01-2008, 11:04 AM
CJR238

Use Spec mode for a while to find out what frequency, than you will know what they are using.
07-01-2008, 11:17 AM
RadarKid

when you say "what they're using" you're referring to the type of radar gun? next time I encounter a LEO in a Charger (and I remember) I'll write down the frequency. You'll have to educate me on what frequencies they all run on...I'm unaware....is it that exact of a frequency that it won't drift like the automatic doors?
07-01-2008, 11:24 AM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

when you say "what they're using" you're referring to the type of radar gun? next time I encounter a LEO in a Charger (and I remember) I'll write down the frequency. You'll have to educate me on what frequencies they all run on...I'm unaware....is it that exact of a frequency that it won't drift like the automatic doors?

For example my local uses 34.7 which is a stalker gun. The 9500I is a real champ with this very popular and sophisticated gun. All my troopers use 34.7. There can be some fluctuation but usually not much, a LEO's gun has to be accurate.
Check this out:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-34-747-a.html

By the way, the above is also in my thread with other useful info on page 4 #34 ;):D
07-01-2008, 11:36 AM
RadarKid

Good info. Thanks. Perhaps its the same here....I'll be on the lookout for the next Charger....

the LEO is going to think I'm stalking him. :D
07-01-2008, 11:36 AM
ejames7

How did you get that google maps screen shot?
07-01-2008, 11:45 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejames7

How did you get that google maps screen shot?

My 9500i takes satelite photos as I drive.

:eek:
07-01-2008, 01:30 PM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

Good info. Thanks. Perhaps its the same here....I'll be on the lookout for the next Charger....

the LEO is going to think I'm stalking him. :D

My guess is in RI you will have the same abundance of 34.7. Did you read the whole thread? It also shows all the different frequency’s for each radar gun and a video of the stalker.
07-01-2008, 09:37 PM
ejames7

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

My 9500i takes satelite photos as I drive.

:eek:

haha. All right I see how it is!
07-02-2008, 05:28 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejames7

haha. All right I see how it is!

:) just bustin' b@lls. I just took a screenshot and cropped it.
07-02-2008, 05:32 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJR238

My guess is in RI you will have the same abundance of 34.7. Did you read the whole thread? It also shows all the different frequency’s for each radar gun and a video of the stalker.

I may have been mistaken on the Chargers. I'll have to continue to monitor it, but it may have been an extremely strong K band as opposed to strong Ka. I still am positive that the Chargers have some stronger form of radar (whether is Ka or K) than the older Crown Vics.

This AM I saw a local LEO sitting in a Charger at a known speedtrap location with NO radar on. I discretely parked across from him in a nearbye parking lot and waiting for any type of signal. It remained silent for about 5minutes, then K band kicked on for a minute or two very strong then shut off. He drove away shortly after.

K 24.169

Is this not dangerously close to every automatic K door opener you've ever seen? If I remember correctly while monitoring falses, they all ran right around 24.17 depending on your pass.
07-02-2008, 08:22 AM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

This AM I saw a local LEO sitting in a Charger at a known speedtrap location with NO radar on. I discretely parked across from him in a nearbye parking lot and waiting for any type of signal. It remained silent for about 5minutes, then K band kicked on for a minute or two very strong then shut off. He drove away shortly after.

K 24.169

Is this not dangerously close to every automatic K door opener you've ever seen? If I remember correctly while monitoring falses, they all ran right around 24.17 depending on your pass.

Yes many automatic K doors run around 24.150.
~24.134 to ~24.165 are the tricky blocks to lock out if your locals run K in that same area, That would be a High risk area.
07-02-2008, 08:37 AM
RadarKid

A little sign for you.....and for my sig.

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/uploa...79_227_779.jpg
07-02-2008, 09:42 AM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

A little sign for you.....and for my sig.

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/uploa...79_227_779.jpg

Very nice, but it should also have if you don’t speed there is no risk.

Or: Dont be like RadarKid, think befor you Lock.:D

Radar= TrueLock
Kid= Risk
07-02-2008, 09:48 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJR238

Very nice, but it should also have if you don’t speed there is no risk.

Or: Dont be like RadarKid, think befor you Lock.:D

Radar= TrueLock
Kid= Risk

funny except contrary to my username, I'm not a "kid" anymore as much as I'd like to be. and as much as the "no speed = no risk" is true, so is the "no truelock = no risk"

I thought plenty about my lockout locations and also followed directions to "cut down" on the lockout radius both by shutting down and repowering after a mile of driving, and locking out at the lowest signal from the false. If unfortunately still locked out real LEO's almost 1/2 mile from the lockout point.
Thanks, but no thanks....and to think of adding "AutoLearn" as another added possible fault....Thanks but no thanks......I can see it now locking out areas with no falses but a LEO passed in the same location more than once.

I'll stick with the "give me the alerts when they're strong enough and I'll decide if I need to worry...because TrueLock has proven to put me at a disadvantage from those detectors that DONT have it"
07-02-2008, 10:20 AM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

funny except contrary to my username, I'm not a "kid" anymore as much as I'd like to be. and as much as the "no speed = no risk" is true, so is the "no truelock = no risk"

I thought plenty about my lockout locations and also followed directions to "cut down" on the lockout radius both by shutting down and repowering after a mile of driving, and locking out at the lowest signal from the false. If unfortunately still locked out real LEO's almost 1/2 mile from the lockout point.
Thanks, but no thanks....and to think of adding "AutoLearn" as another added possible fault....Thanks but no thanks......I can see it now locking out areas with no falses but a LEO passed in the same location more than once.

I'll stick with the "give me the alerts when they're strong enough and I'll decide if I need to worry...because TrueLock has proven to put me at a disadvantage from those detectors that DONT have it"

I know, just playing like you kid.:D

And your absolutely correct, for a person that is in a "High Risk" scenario, has no tolerance for risk, or the desire for adjusting there driving habits according to area to reduce the amount of falses, or take the time to know everything about radar and what there local use they shouldn’t use TrueLock or any tricks. (I called it a "High Risk" area for a reason)
The only way to look at it would be a "High Risk" area, and to not lock everything out for that person.
But im wiling to bet after using the 9500I and this sight for a good 6 months you will have a better understanding of how Radar works and you may lock out a few logical places that would be fine using the maximum 1/2mi lock out radius.
07-02-2008, 11:36 AM
djrams80

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

funny except contrary to my username, I'm not a "kid" anymore as much as I'd like to be. and as much as the "no speed = no risk" is true, so is the "no truelock = no risk"

There are still no examples of Truelock causing someone a ticket. Truelock works. Period. As with any false alert suppression, risk is intentionally added, but the truth is that Truelock has proven itself to be less risky than originally thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I thought plenty about my lockout locations and also followed directions to "cut down" on the lockout radius both by shutting down and repowering after a mile of driving, and locking out at the lowest signal from the false. If unfortunately still locked out real LEO's almost 1/2 mile from the lockout point.

You obviously did a poor job of this, since your lockout radius appears to have been maxxed out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

Thanks, but no thanks....and to think of adding "AutoLearn" as another added possible fault....Thanks but no thanks......I can see it now locking out areas with no falses but a LEO passed in the same location more than once.

We get it. You're not going to use it. GOOD! No one should use any feature they don't understand or know how to use. Hundreds of thousands of miles have been logged by very experienced members of this board with zero problems caused by Truelock, yet you with your obvious lack of radar knowledge and experience are sure you've seen a problem. Sorry, I don't buy it. You claim to be a knowlegeable RD user by saying you've owned an 8500, X50 and now a 9500i, yet posts such as these prove otherwise:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

This AM on my normal commute to work, I encountered 2 LEO's. One was a State Trooper pulled to the side shooting C/O Ka on the opposite side of the highway facing traffic on my side. The Ka warning didnt seem to be too much before I reached him and I was kind of disappointed. But 5 minutes later as I exited the highway, I came down the ramp and up the hill a bit there was a town cop pulled over at a 90degree angle from the road which is a fairly slight incline from where you come off the highway. He was well within eyesight on Corys Lane long before I received an alert. As I passed it seemed as though he was shooting C/O Ka straight across the road as opposed to down the road where we were exiting the highway. Is this why I didnt have much warning? You can see from the two locations that it didnt give much prior warning (approx 1000 ft)

Any experienced RD user would not have posts like this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I'll stick with the "give me the alerts when they're strong enough and I'll decide if I need to worry...because TrueLock has proven to put me at a disadvantage from those detectors that DONT have it"

Again, we get it! You don't like Truelock! Your one week of inexperienced use shows the exact opposite of what all of the experienced users on this board report. Don't use any feature you don't understand.
07-02-2008, 11:39 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrams80

There are still no examples of Truelock causing someone a ticket. Truelock works. Period. As with any false alert suppression, risk is intentionally added, but the truth is that Truelock has proven itself to be less risky than originally thought.

You obviously did a poor job of this, since your lockout radius appears to have been maxxed out.
We get it. You're not going to use it. GOOD! No one should use any feature they don't understand or know how to use. Hundreds of thousands of miles have been logged by very experienced members of this board with zero problems caused by Truelock, yet you with your obvious lack of radar knowledge and experience are sure you've seen a problem. Sorry, I don't buy it. You claim to be a knowlegeable RD user by saying you've owned an 8500, X50 and now a 9500i, yet posts such as these prove otherwise:
Any experienced RD user would not have posts like this one.

Again, we get it! You don't like Truelock! Your one week of inexperienced use shows the exact opposite of what all of the experienced users on this board report. Don't use any feature you don't understand.

I'm tired of explaining how you're full of $hit in your responses, and although I have legit answers for each of these recent replies......you're not worth it anymore. I would hand deliver proof of a ticket and you still would be too full of yourself to ever admit you're wrong. I've done my best to ignore you for quite a while, yet you just keep trying to provoke me. Ignore my posts, and I'll ignore yours..seems simple. Or perhaps you need to be banned for a while to get the point across? Hopefully this will get the message across fanboi
07-02-2008, 11:42 AM
upstatedoc

Hey RK-

Did you ever get those black suction cups from Cobra? I'd like to see what a difference it made.
07-02-2008, 11:43 AM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Hey RK-

Did you ever get those black suction cups from Cobra? I'd like to see what a difference it made.

yup. I'll post a picture later today - feel free to just email them from the cobra sight and request them. they sent me two for free.
07-02-2008, 12:17 PM
djrams80

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I'm tired of explaining how you're full of $hit in your responses, and although I have legit answers for each of these recent replies......you're not worth it anymore.

Your responses are all bogus. The truth is that you don't know how Truelock works and lack the experience to determine if Truelock failed or not. That's a fact. If Truelock fails me, I will post a video proving it, because I have the knowlege necessary to do so, assuming there are no looming court procedings of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I would hand deliver proof of a ticket and you still would be too full of yourself to ever admit you're wrong.

Again, what does my opinion of me have to do with any of this? Well, since you've said over and over again that you will not be using Truelock anymore, any ticket you get will have nothing to do with Truelock, now will it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I've done my best to ignore you for quite a while, yet you just keep trying to provoke me. Ignore my posts, and I'll ignore yours..seems simple.

I will not allow a newbie to post misinformation without knowledge, without retort. Simple as that. The fact is that you were alerted both times by your 9500i, so even you admit that Truelock worked as designed. IT ALERTED YOU, BOTH FREAKIN' TIMES!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

Or perhaps you need to be banned for a while to get the point across?

Now, you've promoted yourself to moderator?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

Hopefully this will get the message across fanboi

What point? You make no valid points about Truelock.
07-02-2008, 12:22 PM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrams80

Your responses are all bogus. The truth is that you don't know how Truelock works and lack the experience to determine if Truelock failed or not. That's a fact. If Truelock fails me, I will post a video proving it, because I have the knowlege necessary to do so, assuming there are no looming court procedings of course. Again, what does my opinion of me have to do with any of this? Well, since you've said over and over again that you will not be using Truelock anymore, any ticket you get will have nothing to do with Truelock, now will it? I will not allow a newbie to post misinformation without knowledge, without retort. Simple as that. The fact is that you were alerted both times by your 9500i, so even you admit that Truelock worked as designed. IT ALERTED YOU, BOTH FREAKIN' TIMES! Now, you've promoted yourself to moderator? What point? You make no valid points about Truelock.

Unlike you I'm mature enough to know when to just ignore an idiot like yourself. Consider yourself muted from here on out.

http://www.tololy.com/wp-content/upl...mute-logo1.gif
07-02-2008, 12:33 PM
djrams80

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

Unlike you I'm mature enough to know when to just ignore an idiot like yourself. Consider yourself muted from here on out.

http://www.tololy.com/wp-content/upl...mute-logo1.gif

Did you just post that and call yourself mature at the same time?
07-02-2008, 01:25 PM
Veri

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrams80

Did you just post that and call yourself mature at the same time?

Heh...

I continue to be amazed at how much time and effort people spend in waving their e-penises around on this forum. "Fanboy" this, "zombie" that. Who the f*ck cares? I don't care. Most of the innocent bystanders that marvel at the childishness don't care. You like what you like based on whatever reason you have. So does the other person. Period, end of story.

TrueLock, based on my understanding of how it functions, could theoretically screw a user over.

The Valentine's rear antenna is, for some of our environments (read: lots of stuff for reflections) and purposes, needless. Better on paper than in practice.

The x50's frequency display is a triviality to some people. The silver is a "steal me!" color. I like it.

They're all great detectors. Use what makes you happiest. If someone else doesn't agree, so f*cking what? Stop bickering like a couple of 14 year old schoolgirls over the football team's quarterback.
07-02-2008, 01:41 PM
upstatedoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veri

Stop bickering like a couple of 14 year old schoolgirls over the football team's quarterback.

:lol:
07-02-2008, 02:06 PM
djrams80

Sorry guys. I just don't understand why someone would own something, but whine and complain incessantly about that product. If I hated any of my RDs that much, I'd just sell it and stop complaining.
07-02-2008, 02:22 PM
RadarKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veri

Heh...

I continue to be amazed at how much time and effort people spend in waving their e-penises around on this forum. "Fanboy" this, "zombie" that. Who the f*ck cares? I don't care. Most of the innocent bystanders that marvel at the childishness don't care. You like what you like based on whatever reason you have. So does the other person. Period, end of story.

TrueLock, based on my understanding of how it functions, could theoretically screw a user over.

The Valentine's rear antenna is, for some of our environments (read: lots of stuff for reflections) and purposes, needless. Better on paper than in practice.

The x50's frequency display is a triviality to some people. The silver is a "steal me!" color. I like it.

They're all great detectors. Use what makes you happiest. If someone else doesn't agree, so f*cking what? Stop bickering like a couple of 14 year old schoolgirls over the football team's quarterback.

I agree with all of what you just said..and admit it was stupid on my part for arguing the point with someone like him. Thats why I stopped here. Peace
07-02-2008, 02:43 PM
CJR238

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarKid

I agree with all of what you just said..and admit it was stupid on my part for arguing the point with someone like him. Thats why I stopped here. Peace

Putting sarcastic photos and comments in your sig doesn’t help ether.
07-02-2008, 03:42 PM
dagored

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrams80

Sorry guys. I just don't understand why someone would own something, but whine and complain incessantly about that product. If I hated any of my RDs that much, I'd just sell it and stop complaining.

I have been following this thread and WOW, you have much more patience than I do. My hats off to you. I salute you.