Sweetness! Thanks Cliff! :)
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Sweetness! Thanks Cliff! :)
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that box is in my room :cool: i cant wait to see the install pics!
Should be done tomorrow night.
So do I need to replace all my heads again or can I just replace my control box?
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Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
Just the control box, but up to 30 days until existing users can get the upgrade.
I'm sure cliff will be by to answer this, but it is my understanding that you just switch out the control box. In another thread cliff said if you were upgrading from the older version, he can send you a new control box while you send the old one back.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
OK DJ, just rub it in why don't ya.............can that pic be any bigger? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by djrams80
Anyway, are the people who did your ci install doing the LI too? Also, where are the front heads going?
I'll see what I can do! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
They sure are. As a matter of fact, I think the owner is doing it for free. Well, not totally free. I think he said that I owe him sushi. About twice a month, he calls me with some questions that I always know the answer to that helps him sell a 9500ci. At this point, I think he needs me. ;) He told me that none of the other franchise owners in this chain have sold any of these, but he's sold several.Quote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
I don't plan to use the ZR4s at all. I'm tired of their false alerts. LCCs are a dime-a-dozen here in SoCal. I'm leaving the ZR4s installed strictly as a backup. I might use them sporadically, but probably not much. If the LIs can protect that HHR, I'm sure they can easily protect my Veiled, no chrome having, non-reflective car. I'm putting the LI heads here:Quote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
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When TS Upgrade CPU's become available for existing LI users, about 30 days, all one will have to do is go to the LI USA Website, purchase the Upgraded TS Enabled CPU and it will be shipped along with a Pre-Paid return envelope for your old CPU. Simply swap out your existing CPU for the new Upgraded TS Enabled CPU and mail the old one back. The sensors will NOT need to be exchanged. Just the CPU!Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
Cliff - C55
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Originally Posted by djrams80
one poster said he had some cross talk issues with an LI and ZR3, I wonder if that is the case with the ZR4.
I think was only when very close to another vehicle or wall or something. I don't plan to use the ZR4s anyhow. They can't cross talk with anything if they are disabled. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
Cliff -
I've still got the original-US-shipment front sensors.
Will this still allow TruSpeed coverage?
I know that the head was updated/revised to allow for XR coverage (which I have no intention to pursue), but I was wondering if the version 8.0 heads are still acceptable for TruSpeed use?
Thanks! :)
Congrats on your new LI's "Now with TruSpeed Enabled". :)
your the man cliff. get those install pics up DJ!
any more news on what states have bought the Tru Speed? I know KY mainly uses LTI's & Pro Laser 3...
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Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
you'll be fine allen.
TS-enabled control box is compatible with all sensors (8.0/8.1/8.2/8.5). In fact, the Truspeed JTG test video you saw was jammed with the very original 8.0 sensors too. (amazingly they are from the first batch and still running good).
all i no so far is CT and CA but i need to know if NJSP will be buying them!Quote:
Originally Posted by thestaton
Florida Hwy Patrol bought 150-200..Officer friend I know wasn't sure of exact numbers was just told they where having a training sesion in 3 weeks for them.
So CA, CT, FL...
can someone sticky a list of states with truspeeds or something so we can find out where they are being used thx :D
Texas DPS won't buy em.. they allready have Stalker DSR 2X... why would you want lidar with such a kick ass radar and Instant On?Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey005
The interstate highways in the city are patrolled by local yokels anyway.
I believe OH has themQuote:
Originally Posted by hockey005
Cool... I need protection against this as well. Although I dont speed, I like gadgets.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhardy2288
Thankyee! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by interceptor.tw
Yep, like I keep telling people, my own front heads are the 8.0s that were a part of the first-US-batch.
And they're still going strong, with no evidence of leakage! :)
Thanks, yet again, for your help!
^ +1.Quote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
There's been an unconfirmed, albeit reliable, sighting in southern OH, already.
And it's definitely been in the "News" section here that Ohio is among the initial list of states to have accepted bids for the TruSpeed.
Damn You DJ!!!!!! I'll never be able to make up my mind, slow down man. :p
Now not sure about the 9500ci, may have to keep the V1 for a bit more and pick up LI set up and do the Escort later, when they sell it without the shifters.
I think i was hit with the new Tru Speed the other day here in CT, I got a lucky save.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestaton
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ete-setup.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by thestaton
I just have one slight problem here.
all one will have to do is go to the LI USA Website, purchase the Upgraded TS Enabled CPU
Although you want me to send my old one back still after i've purchased the new one as well? Does that seem right to you? For one, yes it is more technology that does come at a cost understandably so. Although is it really that much? I mean it's adding one more gun to a device that should already jam it genericly should it not? Is the LI going to be this way with every gun in the future that it can not distiguish? Not saying it's a bad jammer by any means, and not saying hey thanks for the offer to upgrade, I plan on it. Although, if they plan on charging me for a hole new box, don't plan on receiving the old one back. I'm saving that for backup if your charging me full list price for a brand new one, or did you possibly mean, "I'm going to send you a new one if you send the old one?" Plus like a small fee I don't see where that would be out of the question like maybe 10-20 dollars or so. I mean it's only one gun. Thats yes out there, infact I was one of the first to even FIND IT, and report it to these types of boards. If it wasn't for alpine watching Laser Tech like a hawk we might not even have this upgrade right now availiable.
My question to you is, how much is this new upgrade really? If your going to charge people who obviously didn't know that you where selling them outdated box's just before this came out, is that fair good buisness ethics? I mean? Personally i know it's upsetting myself.
Like I said, it's technology, and yes technology costs money. My problem is, does it really cost that much? I mean your getting boxs back from the users. It's not like your loosing your butt on this. LI has gotten some bad rap over the years now for doing some shady things, for instance sending me a broken control box the first one i purchased. Then acting like i might have possibly broken it, so that "THEY" could charge me more. My question is, "How much are you asking for said upgrade?" Not only that, why am I not able to keep my old box? If im paying full price? I think I should get a discount don't you? I mean i'm sending you technology back too? Remember technology comes at a cost right?
In the end, how much is this upgrade for a new cpu box? What if I have two cpu's? Since i have bought two dual head units over time? Also, Why is Laser Interceptor USA's page down? You said you could check online at their page? Although all it says is, the page is currently down, then it gives a link to contact elvis which i refuse to do, since he is the one that sent me a broken cpu before, it was allowed to drop on concrete, sent to me in a paper mailer and they thought that was just jim dandy and ok? Um, thats not how i treat my electonics sorry. I also expect others to respect them to. I got the second batch from a different dealer, that also informed me that Elvis is not even a legitment US distributor anymore, so how can this LI page be valid? The second distributor I got mine from, I actually got a box, no paper mailer, it took forever but it was packaged properly, the heads weren't used they where brand new and the controll box worked properly. So, is there anybody else I can deal with on this? Any number of Whom to call for pricing? I mean? Just put up a post about something with some random sticker, saying there is an upgrade which maybe there is. Although where is the CS number to call and ask these questions?
AlPiNe~:(
Try Laser Interceptor USA - Distributor to The USA, and Canada You visited the incorrect LI-USA Website.
There is a CS phone # there for you to call me anytime.
Thanks!
Cliff - C55
Amateur Radio Operator - W4NJ
alpine -
Cliff's official declaration, coming from the LI mother team, dated back to May 22 of this year ( ref: http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...w-usa-rep.html ).
If you've bought units from anyone other than Cliff, at that time, then you've gone off-map.
Also, his North American website has been up and functioning for several months now.....
As a true enthusiast and hobbyist, I would have imagined that you'd have obtained information from the proper sources....and am highly surprised that you did not know.
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Regarding the CPU exchange.
As an automotive enthusiast, I'm well accustomed to the idea of "core cost."
You make a high-dollar-amount but fully refundable deposit, pay a little for the part, and then, after you've installed the new component, returned the old to the store for a refund of the deposit.
I see this the same way, and honestly, I don't see why you're complaining.
It's truly not so out-of-the-ordinary.
Also, if you're objecting to the $150 refundable deposit, Cliff has been more than willing to make exceptions in this case.
Both noTe and I have asked him, publicly as well as privately, whether we can simply send in our old box, first, and avoid the need to submit the deposit, as we're both tight on cash.
Cliff has readily agreed, again both publicly and privately, to such.
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I think you're getting all worked up over nothing......... :)
None of this is new. Other old-hand hobbyists like you - and even newcomers to our community - have known about this (and if you're not signed up at the LI Forums, please do so, as this information is clearly declared, there) for not days, but weeks.
It simply looks like you were out-of-the-loop and perhaps have been fed bad information, and are currently suffering some sort of knee-jerk reaction.
Don't worry, Cliff/LI is not going to let you down like that other Forum Vendor you've been having such a hard time with. ;)
Just ordered a Dual head LI a few hours ago. Cliff was great! He was answering questions via email as I was ordering the unit. Two thumbs up for initial customer service. ;)
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Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
Isn't the deposit taken on a credit card anyway, so technically no money out of pocket.
^ Ah, but some of us don't function off of credit-cards. :)
Credit is my life :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
I didn't disagree with you allen? Then again. Is it nessacary to comment back to every thread and say i agree? Although, i do disagree in some points, a core yes. ALthough when you core out parts on your car allen, they are broken! Your box when you send it in, is functional... Ahhh big differnece my friend. They are making money off of you and I. Does technology cost money yes. Is the upgrade a personal, and optional thing, yes. I learned that as of yesterday, after being absent from this board for some time while working hard in the studio. Forgive me bro, that I don't have time to respond to every thread in a time sensitive manner, I am busy just as you, and alot of others on this board i'm sure. We love our electonics. Although, there are alot of other things in life we must deal with on a daily basis. As to the credit card thing, allen you had it exactly right, not everyone has a CC nor wants to even own one. It's asking for trouble from someone like myself, because i have no self control and would most likely call Laser Tech tomarrow and have a TruSpeed on the way. As for my opinion of their little core Idea heres why i'm saying what i'm saying.
Heres what LI is doing.
They are taking your 50 dollars claiming thats shipping included, when really who's paying for that intial shipment to croatia? YOU!
so really is it even 50 bucks? NO.
It's more like atleast 70 i mean we are talking airmail here. Since the package has to be sent overseas.
Then they charge you shipping both ways ontop of the box? Well first off I already paid shipping one way, do you really think i'm that foolish?
Unless ofcourse cliff plans to send me a prepaid shipment label then in that case well that ends that problem of mine.
Ok so after your 70 Dollar investment.
They recieve your C-box. Ship you out a new one, keep your old one, crack your old box open, alter it, flash it whatever they need to do to update. Then the next guy that sent in gets your Refurb. To them possibly at nill cost. Getting my picture yet?
SO really? Is it worth the 50 dollars? Hmm begining to wonder now I bet..?
Hence why I asked the question.
Its a valid question.
Do they have technology thats worth money YES i'm not denying that, will I send in YES, but don't think your fooling me on the TRUE value of what your doing. Because buddy thats not happening. I'm smarter than that, i've owned my own buisness, my family has for years. I know that, that is how that stuff works. Why it saves them money. Makes them alot of money, and they are in buisness to do buisness. They are not out to look out for your, or mines financal interests here.
They then charge you 50 dollars send you back a peice of refurb they simply reflashed which took all of 2 min you and me both know that from reflashing our Navalerts. So, was it really even worth that much labor? Really, do you make 50 bucks every two minutes allen? I wish you did, and I wish I did too. Sure would be nice. Although, thats pretty pricey. I think a date with a prostitute is cheaper. I mean?
NO HARM ment to the people on this board that work for LI, or LI. They do have a GREAT product! I'm just saying, don't think your pulling one over alpine's head here. I know what this stuff costs i've been around it now long enough to know.
Did you know that it only costs like 50 dollars to make one blinder head? Now the markup on that roughly 150 dollars a head! OUCH!
Once again as you said. Technology coms at a cost Yes. Although just the other day even you said allen. I think thats a little pricey considering my update for my LPP was only 25 dollars. Which to me is in the ballpark of reasonable. UNLESS they are sending me a brand new C-box. Then yes 50 is understandable. If it's not brand new well then i'm sorry but thats unfair buisness.
Although it may be unfair. We don't really have alot of say. Either you run em, and be protected, or buy another brand, or you just give up the hobby. Simple as that. They know they got you right where it hurts man.
I personally don't plan to give up just yet. Although, if things keep getting outta hand and going wild with the price meter. I may be forced to give up a hobby I love so dearly. Unfortunatly, unlike you allen I don't have unlimited credit card funds.
Once again, Tsi your a great Guy, LI is doing some great things for this industry, I just wish I could know if that is whats happening, or if LI is being legitiment here. I'd like to think they are ligit, and beleive them just as you. Anybody would like to do that. Although, me and you allen both know in this industry there is alot of shady stuff out there that goes down. Especially once you've been into it and around the people involved in it long enough.
So Tsi, or allen which ever you prefer my sir. I agree technology does come at a cost, the 50 well, thats somewhat reasonable yes. For as you said a MAJOR upgrade. Although, i've even had other members of this board him and haw when i said it was going to cost me atleast 100 bucks to do the upgrade, as I have Two controll boxes.
I guess, it's one of those things, where you just sit back. Give LI a call and find out for yourself which it is. Then get back to the board and let them know. I will be sending mine in for this update. When I get them back if they are used. I will be letting you guys know.
As for me complaining, I wouldn't call it that. Just making sure it is what they say it is allen and nothing more. I guess it's like your sweet ride allen, if you went to the automotive, and bought a part brand new, would it upset you if you got home to install your new turbo, and found out it was nicked and possibly they sold you a used part?
AlPiNe~
It is LTI's doing.........................LOL
OK OK.......you are reading the wrong post LOL
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ruspeed-3.html
Anybody know the Max effective on the TruSPeed for range?
Also anybody here know the Pulse Rate for the TruSpeed yet? Has LTI mixed it up like i was wondering and changed that pulse rate on the new gun to try and maybe through us off?
Also last but not least, does anyone here know the Nano meters of this gun? What is the wave length of light at 905~ 904~ or did they change it to 936~ to work around a detectors filters?
AlPiNe~
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Originally Posted by alpinestars_2002795
I am sure Ivan knows, but he won't say.
Maybe the Professor jim can help us out? CALL OUT TO JIMMMMMMMM!! MR. BONZZZ!!
HELP HELPP!! LOL.. :) :D
That one always works :D
AlPiNe~
2000 FT. The pps is secret! 905 nm.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinestars_2002795
Cliff - C55
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Originally Posted by C55
I think I read the PPS is 125.