Anybody here know...

....if Veil G4 on the headlights of a Corvette C6 would look terrible? I've also seen posts from Corvette owners who have put plastic film to protect their headlights and the heat from the light caused the surface to crack and or 'craze' and that concerns me about using Veil.

Since the C6 uses projector type lights with very small diameters, I wonder if they are less likely to give a good speed reading at the usual clocking distance. If that's so, a black C6 with no front plate might be stealthy enough to allow the detector to give enough warning to slow down.

Anybody know?

I believe ErickonPhoenix tried the previous version of Veil on his C6 and did not like how much light it cut out. I have Viel G4 but have not installed it on the Vette for the same concerns you expressed. I decided to go with the LI and will see how it performs before deciding on the Veil.

I am however going to install it on the rear tail lights on the Vette and on the the front and rear lights on the F-150. I'm just waiting till our testing event later this month so I can get before and after pics and results.

Oh by the way at our last testing event, no jammers on, they could lock onto me at almost 2000'. I would suspect that your detector will alert you to the fact you are getting a ticket if you have no jammer.

mmm, I thought erick had a c5.

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Originally Posted by category4

I believe ErickonPhoenix tried the previous version of Veil on his C6 and did not like how much light it cut out. I have Viel G4 but have not installed it on the Vette for the same concerns you expressed. I decided to go with the LI and will see how it performs before deciding on the Veil.

I am however going to install it on the rear tail lights on the Vette and on the the front and rear lights on the F-150. I'm just waiting till our testing event later this month so I can get before and after pics and results.

Oh by the way at our last testing event, no jammers on, they could lock onto me at almost 2000'. I would suspect that your detector will alert you to the fact you are getting a ticket if you have no jammer.

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Thanks! Wow...2000' tells me those lights must reflect like crazy, because from your Avatar it looks like you don't run a front plate. I can't tell which red you have, but it is known that metalic paints return a pretty good signal.

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Originally Posted by REBinc

mmm, I thought erick had a c5.

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He's driving a C6 in this video: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJx1Ku9eYFI]YouTube - ZR3 owns Houston PD Pro Laser 3 . . . again.[/ame]

Yep, it is, guess i was wrong.

Why not search the Veil post? Lots of pics of applications in there.

The G4 is much clearer than the G2 that Erick used. And darkness is completely dependant upon how many coats you apply. It does not have to be dark enough to significantly decrease your light output to work.

Yes, I installed G2 Veil on the C6 and ran it until the time change and it got dark early. The Veil dispersed my xenon horizon line really bad so I pulled it off with bestine.

While I had it on I found it wore fine. Did not crack just knicked where rocks and bugs hit it.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

The G4 is much clearer than the G2 that Erick used. And darkness is completely dependant upon how many coats you apply. It does not have to be dark enough to significantly decrease your light output to work.

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How many coats does it take on average? I am in the process of stealthing my ride and that has been a question I have. So far I have one coat. Will that work, or do most of you give your head lights more than one?

I'm pretty sure that GOL only used one coat of Veil in their latest tests.

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR

You can see it yielded some impressive results.

Some people go with a lot of coats simply because they want a more smoked look. Others in hopes of increasing the effectiveness. I would be interested in knowing at what point the drawbacks begin to outweigh the benefits.

Thanks Stealth Stalker! One coat should do it then hopefully. I have read of others painting on more than one, but nowhere within the tests out there (GOL, and others) do they say if they used more than one. It has been a question Plaguing me.

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Originally Posted by REBinc

Yep, it is, guess i was wrong.

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^ Don't feel bad - I made the very same mistake. :p

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Originally Posted by carnut08

Since the C6 uses projector type lights with very small diameters, I wonder if they are less likely to give a good speed reading at the usual clocking distance. If that's so, a black C6 with no front plate might be stealthy enough to allow the detector to give enough warning to slow down.

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I think you'll find the following discussion to reflect (sorry, no pun intended :o) exactly upon what you're questioning:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...tml#post465766

Start on that page, page 3, with post 23.

Stealth Stalker then replies, to further the discussion, which I then returned to on post number 26.

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Originally Posted by The Breeze

Thanks Stealth Stalker! One coat should do it then hopefully. I have read of others painting on more than one, but nowhere within the tests out there (GOL, and others) do they say if they used more than one. It has been a question Plaguing me.

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The VEIL Guy has always maintained that one good coat is all it really takes - it's that single coat that will give, percentage-wise, the greatest decrease in IR attenuation, while allowing for the best preservation of your vehicle's lighting capabilities.

Thanks TSi+WRX!

That post and thread contained exactly what I was looking for and you even had a specific reference to the C6. Very helpful indeed!

I'm disappointed with the actual data, but it is what it is.

Cyberdemon summed it up for me (post 27) when it comes to the question of both aesthetics and the "probable cause" issue. Those points added to my additional concern about projector heat build up and light cover failure pretty well tell me that Veil isn't for me......at least at this point where lidar isn't used with great frequency where I drive.

This is a great forum and I'll have to make it a point to keep checking back to see what comes down the pike in the future. Thanks again!:)

Glad to be of-service. :)

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RE: heat build-up from VEIL.

I don't really know, but I'm afraid that this would be a very real concern for you.

HIR headlights are based off the premise that a not-insignificant amount of lighting output is lost due to the loss of IR from the capsule - and the higher resultant output of HIR headlamps makes specific use of the recapture of this....

Given that VEIL significantly attenuates IR, I can't help but wonder how much more heat you'd trap in your headlight assembly, and if this is already an issue with the C6s, then it becomes a no-brainer that this is a no-go.

:(

Indeed, I, too, am sorry that the data in the other case - as well as my assumptions for the current one - isn't what you wanted to hear, but that's my best guess, for the truth. :)

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Originally Posted by TSi+WRX

Glad to be of-service. :)

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RE: heat build-up from VEIL.

I don't really know, but I'm afraid that this would be a very real concern for you.

HIR headlights are based off the premise that a not-insignificant amount of lighting output is lost due to the loss of IR from the capsule - and the higher resultant output of HIR headlamps makes specific use of the recapture of this....

Given that VEIL significantly attenuates IR, I can't help but wonder how much more heat you'd trap in your headlight assembly, and if this is already an issue with the C6s, then it becomes a no-brainer that this is a no-go.

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Indeed, I, too, am sorry that the data in the other case - as well as my assumptions for the current one - isn't what you wanted to hear, but that's my best guess, for the truth. :)

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More good info. Thanks once more! Your assumptions about heat track with my intuition and no-go it is. :(