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V1 better than Whistler?
I can some times be a stubborn person, esp. when it comes to security-related issues. I want to feel safe and comfortable and am willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a well made product. I'm a big fan of Whistler after having gone through three (3) Cobra scanners, which were all returned to Sears and Radio Shack for doing nothing but looking pretty on my window with their little lips sucking on the glass and making cute, adorable sounds when parked in front of some automatic doors. Needless to say Cobra is gay and trash.
But anyway, I'm a HUGE Whistler fan and enthusiast but am also aware having based this on Youtube videos, the V1 website and customer reviews that the V1 is superior to most radar detectors. Is it better or just as good as the new Whistler XTR-695? I don't care for the little gay arrows on the V1 telling me where the cop is from, I just want to know if the detection and distance is any better.
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Originally Posted by
mlyon83
I can some times be a stubborn person, esp. when it comes to security-related issues. I want to feel safe and comfortable and am willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a well made product. I'm a big fan of Whistler after having gone through three (3) Cobra scanners, which were all returned to Sears and Radio Shack for doing nothing but looking pretty on my window with their little lips sucking on the glass and making cute, adorable sounds when parked in front of some automatic doors. Needless to say Cobra is gay and trash.
But anyway, I'm a HUGE Whistler fan and enthusiast but am also aware having based this on Youtube videos, the V1 website and customer reviews that the V1 is superior to most radar detectors. Is it better or just as good as the new Whistler XTR-695? I don't care for the little gay arrows on the V1 telling me where the cop is from, I just want to know if the detection and distance is any better.
The V1 is much better than any Whistler.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-20...ctor-test.html
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The Valentine One owns any Whistler any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by
mlyon83
I can some times be a stubborn person, esp. when it comes to security-related issues. I want to feel safe and comfortable and am willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a well made product. I'm a big fan of Whistler after having gone through three (3) Cobra scanners, which were all returned to Sears and Radio Shack for doing nothing but looking pretty on my window with their little lips sucking on the glass and making cute, adorable sounds when parked in front of some automatic doors. Needless to say Cobra is gay and trash.
But anyway, I'm a HUGE Whistler fan and enthusiast but am also aware having based this on Youtube videos, the V1 website and customer reviews that the V1 is superior to most radar detectors. Is it better or just as good as the new Whistler XTR-695? I don't care for the little gay arrows on the V1 telling me where the cop is from, I just want to know if the detection and distance is any better.
Those little gay arrows can save you more then you think they can.
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ka almost same
k v1 is superior
x not sure cos i keep it off.
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All those tests done were not the Rev c Platform of the Pro 78 and the 690. Expect the Ka detection to be 20-30% better especially Ka 34.7..
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V1's X band is like their laser, no one in any test has ever beaten it.
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Originally Posted by
guit123
ka almost same
k v1 is superior
x not sure cos i keep it off.
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Originally Posted by
Jag42
x2.... And all those tests are not the rev c platform of the pro 78 and 690 !!! Ka is increased by 20-30%
The radar testing at the last GOL was done on a Pro 78 Rev. C and the Whistler performed poorly as compared to every other RD tested, which admittedly are top of the line RDs. The Whistlers are not in the same class as any of the top dogs. That's just the deal. Jerry540i's busted STi beat the Pro78 on K band.
Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR
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djrams80
That test was a worse case with the Antenna facing straight up. I'm talking about straight ahead I/0 or C/0 Ka. MEM-TEK also stated that Happya$$ Pro 78 was lacking db's on Ka band. The only way to prove me wrong is buy a Whistler Rd yourself and run some videos. My best Ka hit was 4.2 miles from I/0 34.7
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V1 all the way. The... uhm... "gay" arrows as you put it, have already saved my hide twice, and ive only had it for 2 and a half months, no other detector could have had those two saves. Both are in the real experiences section here if you care to read about them.
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if the chart is the holygrail then sti is worse than cobra.
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Originally Posted by
Jag42
That test was a worse case with the Antenna facing straight up. I'm talking about straight ahead I/0 or C/0 Ka. MEM-TEK also stated that Happya$$ Pro 78 was lacking db's on Ka band. The only way to prove me wrong is buy a Whistler Rd yourself and run some videos. My best Ka hit was 4.2 miles from I/0 34.7
First off, the radar antenna wasn't facing straight up. It was facing forward and up at about a 30 degree angle. Secondly, happya$$ got his Pro78 straight from Michael B, so it shouldn't have been lacking any sensitivity. Third, who cares which way the antenna is facing? Every other non-busted RD was able to detect the signals at a much further distance, about 3 to 5 times as far.
The Whistlers lack sensitivity. That's the truth. They cost what they cost for a reason. The Whistler will be tested again at the next GOL and I guarantee that they will perform just like they always have, near the bottom. Me buying one won't change that. Why don't you go out and purchase a 9500ci and compare the two? I know they perform well under normal straight road, no terrain, against high powered radar, but what I deal with over here is the real deal. The Stalker II is no joke and emits an extremely weak signal, which is exactly where the Whistlers struggle, raw sensitivity.
The numbers don't lie Jag42.
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Originally Posted by
guit123
if the chart is the holygrail then sti is worse than cobra.
If you are referring to the GOL chart, Jerry540i's STi was broken and was immediately taken(I think Jerry540i hand delivered it) to Bel after the testing.
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Originally Posted by
djrams80
First off, the radar antenna wasn't facing straight up. It was facing forward and up at about a 30 degree angle. Secondly, happya$$ got his Pro78 straight from Michael B, so it shouldn't have been lacking any sensitivity. Third, who cares which way the antenna is facing? Every other non-busted RD was able to detect the signals at a much further distance, about 3 to 5 times as far.
The Whistlers lack sensitivity. That's the truth. They cost what they cost for a reason. The Whistler will be tested again at the next GOL and I guarantee that they will perform just like they always have, near the bottom. Me buying one won't change that. Why don't you go out and purchase a 9500ci and compare the two? I know they perform well under normal straight road, no terrain, against high powered radar, but what I deal with over here is the real deal. The Stalker II is no joke and emits an extremely weak signal, which is exactly where the Whistlers struggle, raw sensitivity.
The numbers don't lie Jag42.
I will send you my Pro 78 for GOL its not busted :D
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Any correctly working RD will alert to door openers when you park in front of them. You may want the 9500 with GPS to lock out falses, as it appears you get annoyed by door openers.
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Originally Posted by
djrams80
If you are referring to the GOL chart, Jerry540i's STi was broken and was immediately taken(I think Jerry540i hand delivered it) to Bel after the testing.
may be they should have checked out the 78 by mike b too before doing the testing. how convenient to say ohh sti ****ed up cos it isn't working ....
gee how difficult is it to check an rd with the multitude of rd guns you have before testing.
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One of my very first experiences with a radar detector was with a whistler and it did fairly well and spared my friend of many tickets, but to compare it to a V1 is a little bit of a stretch like djrams80 said they do fairly well on straight roads with no terrain interference but with todays new radar guns the V1 and high end belscorts (8500,9500,sti) are way ahead of the pack.
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Originally Posted by
guit123
may be they should have checked out the 78 by mike b too before doing the testing. how convenient to say ohh sti ****ed up cos it isn't working ....
gee how difficult is it to check an rd with the multitude of rd guns you have before testing.
And how could They miss the 33.8 Ka bug :confused: Its like manufacturing cars with out brakes !
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Originally Posted by
Jag42
I will send you my Pro 78 for GOL its not busted :D
Works for me.
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Originally Posted by
guit123
may be they should have checked out the 78 by mike b too before doing the testing. how convenient to say ohh sti ****ed up cos it isn't working ....
gee how difficult is it to check an rd with the multitude of rd guns you have before testing.
We were doing a laser jammer test. Once finished, we decided we had time for some RD testing, which was mostly to test the two 9500ci's that were in attendance. We had time, so we tested everything there. We grabbed everyone's RD that was there. Jerry540i's STi was busted. That's just the deal. He had no idea it was busted until we tested it. I guarantee you that a working STi destroys a working Whistler on Ka band raw sensitivity. The chart posted by Jag42 shows exactly that and also shows that a Pro78's Ka band sensitivity is somewhere between a Cobra and an X50, which is exactly what I'm saying. Even if the Rev C is 20-30% higher in sensitivity, like Jag42 is claiming, that's less than 1dB at these levels.
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Jag42
And how could They miss the 33.8 Ka bug :confused: Its like manufacturing cars with out brakes !
So, you'd rather use a Pro78 than an STi? You think the Pro78 is a better RD? I'm personally not a fan of the STi, but there is no comparison between these 2 RDs.
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djrams80
So, you'd rather use a Pro78 than an STi? You think the Pro78 is a better RD? I'm personally not a fan of the STi, but there is no comparison between these 2 RDs.
LOL... I run 15-20 over the PSL all the time worry free from Whistler. Ticket free for 3 years :D In Bob's review he said in the real world the Whistler 78 REV C was 1-2 seconds behind the STI in Ka band. I know that i have to worry about 35.5 just like everyone else. I will admit X and K lack performance compared to the big dogs
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Jag42
LOL... I run 15-20 over the PSL all the time worry free from Whistler. Ticket free for 3 years :D In Bob's review he said in the real world the Whistler 78 REV C was 1-2 seconds behind the STI in Ka band. I know that i have to worry about 35.5 just like everyone else. I will admit X and K lack performance compared to the big dogs
1-2 seconds behind the STI in Ka band might not sound like much but that's all it takes to miss an instant on shot that dissipates on hills and around corners that would have been your notice hitting your rabbit in front of you.
Heads up is gone at that point.
A lot of feet are covered in 1-2 seconds.
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Originally Posted by
Jag42
LOL... I run 15-20 over the PSL all the time worry free from Whistler. Ticket free for 3 years :D In Bob's review he said in the real world the Whistler 78 REV C was 1-2 seconds behind the STI in Ka band. I know that i have to worry about 35.5 just like everyone else. I will admit X and K lack performance compared to the big dogs
So, according to you, the Pro78 is weak on X, K and 35.5Ka. According to that test we ran at GOL, which was against 34.7Ka and was also performed on a Rev C, the Pro78 is weak against 34.7Ka and super weak against K band. That doesn't leave much left.
I'm sure Bob's review is honest and accurate, but in the real world, alerts are mostly terrain limited, as opposed to sensitivity limited. The game is changing with the release of the Stalker II. It will be very much like trying to detect that radar gun pointed up and away from the RD. Good luck if you run up against this gun, as only a trigger happy LEO or raw sensitivity will save you.
The Whistler lacks compared to the big dogs on every band in terms of sensitivity, which is why it's a budget friendly RD. I'm not saying it sucks, I'm saying that it does not belong in the same catergory as the big boys, that's all. You seem to want to put it up there with them, but it just doesn't go there.
I don't worry about 35.5Ka at all. I worry about that Stalker II. The last 5 RDs that I have owned(SRX, 9500i, V1, 9500ix and 9500ci) have all performed very well against 35.5Ka. No encounter has been even remotely close, with the exception of those against my improperly mounted 9500ci. Even those weren't really close, because I was driving much more carefully knowing that something was just not right.
As far as you comment about your Whistler RDs working great for you for 3 years running, I'm sure that's true, but that doesn't put the Whistler in the big dog catergory. Lots of sub-par RD(Cobra, RMR, EW, whatever) owners out there that have never used anything else think their RD works great also, because they don't have anything to compare their RD to.
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Anyone calling the Arrows gay does not deserve to own a V1.
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I'm not following this whole Stalker II low powered radar thing. According to Applied Concepts, the output is the same on all of the Stalker radar units. (Ka band). 10 mw minimum, 25 mw nominal and 50 mw maximum.
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focalcivic
Anyone calling the Arrows gay does not deserve to own a V1.
I don't think he does, he just says he does. ;)
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Originally Posted by
mlyon83
I can some times be a stubborn person, esp. when it comes to security-related issues. I want to feel safe and comfortable and am willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a well made product. I'm a big fan of Whistler after having gone through three (3) Cobra scanners, which were all returned to Sears and Radio Shack for doing nothing but looking pretty on my window with their little lips sucking on the glass and making cute, adorable sounds when parked in front of some automatic doors. Needless to say Cobra is gay and trash.
But anyway, I'm a HUGE Whistler fan and enthusiast but am also aware having based this on Youtube videos, the V1 website and customer reviews that the V1 is superior to most radar detectors. Is it better or just as good as the new Whistler XTR-695? I don't care for the little gay arrows on the V1 telling me where the cop is from, I just want to know if the detection and distance is any better.
Somebody want to do a psychiatric test on this one and don't forget to include the ink blot test.
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focalcivic
Anyone calling the Arrows gay does not deserve to own a V1.
They are NOT gay...
to be nore accurate they go both ways
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2yellowIIs
They are NOT gay...
to be nore accurate they go both ways
:eek:
J/
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Check out the stats and then decide how much you need vs. what you want to pay. I think a $150 Whistler will do most things well, but if you want the best protection, spend the $500 on the V1. (Surprisingly to me, there doesn't seem to be much difference in the price points between the two.)
I must make the point that, unlike most "opinion" sites where everyone thinks whatever he owns is the best of all possible worlds, there seems to be a fair amount of honesty and scientific data on this site to support claims people make. Thanks for all the work you guys put in and helping me buy my first radar detector since my 1970's Fuzzbuster!
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djrams80
X2 you are comparing apples and oranges different leagues
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Jag42
I will send you my Pro 78 for GOL its not busted :D
that would be GREAT so we can put this issue to rest
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Originally Posted by
edmiller9999
Check out the stats and then decide how much you need vs. what you want to pay. I think a $150 Whistler will do most things well, but if you want the best protection, spend the $500 on the V1. (Surprisingly to me, there doesn't seem to be much difference in the price points between the two.)
Oh, $500? Guess you're bought one of those specially programmed V1s!
:lol:
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Zapple
Oh, $500? Guess you're bought one of those specially programmed V1s!
:lol:
I think when you see sites offering the V1 for sale a lot of times that is to sell them overseas, since Valentine does not.
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V1 better than Whistler?
Does a bear **** in the woods?
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happya$$
Is Lexus better than Ford Focus?
you were saying???
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The Pro78 rev C's raw Ka band sensitivities are about 2dBm better than shown in the chart for the Pro78 rev B. My real world experiences with the Pro78 rev C are that it consistently provides very good alert times as long as the radar gun is pointed more or less in the direction of your car. This is because, even though the Pro78 is a bit weak in raw sensitivity, it also features Mike B's newly patented technology which allows it to double-check any faint whiff of radar just a few milliseconds later to see if it is still there. The Pro78 doesn't have really good real world performance against forward-facing radar, simply because its raw Ka band sensitivities don't allow it to begin "seeing" a forward-facing radar gun until you get closer to the forward-facing radar gun. Yet on the road when any distant radar gun is pointed in the general direction of your car then the Pro78 will see it.
As I have commented before, the Pro78 rev C (and now the new XTR-695) is the only other radar detector aside from a Bel, Escort, or V1 which I trust to provide me with really good protection while on the road.
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languy99
:rock: I could blow some minds with that.
