A Must see Valentine one Vs Stalker DSR2 in the same car (Police car)

check this out YouTube - Canal de LEOENFORCEMENT

have a look at this guys latest videos he is a taxes police officer doing videos of his stalker radar vs a Valentine one in side a 2007 Dodge Charger Police vehicle. it show's that the valentine one gets an alert but only after clocking the target cars speed with "Instant on" and some of the time the Valentine one Miss's the instant on radar check it out tell me what you think:cool:

at that of a close distance he is more than likely overloading the V1. I have seen this happen in the past with an X50 and an RX65 where those RD's were not picking up the radar shot but they were at a such a close distance that they were being overloaded.

Is that V1 a 1.7

That happens because it's right in the car... I bet he doesn't know how waves travel :)

Yes, it was a 1.7 version. I think the V1 held it's own with his test though. There is a difference when testing the horns of the antenna's forward - both forward facing with the V1 on the side. The V1 will alert better in that situation if say it was 20 ft. away with the antenna's facing opposite direction. I also will agree with happyA$$ that the V1 can get overloaded at that range.

This is were LEO has an advantage specially when using I/O with an unmarked cruiser.

When it comes to I/O, V1 is the king. :D Have you noticed what he said about picking his other buddy a quarter mile away from a curve? Looks to me that he was somewhat surprised.

A smart driver can still beat the odds even with this tactics and on the other hand, there is no way anybody can outbrake I/O when done properly. Seems to me that his line of thinking is that, a smart RD user will just go over PSL with no defense for I/O.

Either side can win the game and it just depends on how the tools are being used.

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Originally Posted by happya$$

at that of a close distance he is more than likely overloading the V1. I have seen this happen in the past with an X50 and an RX65 where those RD's were not picking up the radar shot but they were at a such a close distance that they were being overloaded.

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Sure make your excuses about there inferior horn. :p jk :)

The more i do this the more it seems to be a loosing battle. :(

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Originally Posted by CJR238

The more i do this the more it seems to be a loosing battle. :(

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Need to switch? :D

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Originally Posted by KnightHawk

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Originally Posted by CJR238

The more i do this the more it seems to be a loosing battle. :(

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Need to switch? :D

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There apparently is nothing to switch to. :( I have been waiting for a Stealth V1 for what seems forever, im just too suborn to change unless i get exactly what i want.
Looks like the only way is a ci & V1 combo, but $2000 for countermeasures seems a bit absorbent when i haven't gotten a ticket since i got my 9500's. :)

This is also caused by the fact that the V1 has to sweep. If you broadcast and then cease broadcasting in the middle of the sweep before it gets to 34.7, obviously the unit won't alert.

The thing is, once the V1 picks up a specific frequency, it will monitor that frequency much more closely for the next few seconds. That's why when you watch the videos, the first time he clocks someone, the V1 won't alert, but then subsequent times the V1 alerts without a problem.

I think the V1 performed very well considering the circumstances and considering the fact that most LEOs do not "quick trigger".

In any event, the Belscorts are MUCH WORSE at catching quick trigger bursts because their software is programmed to try to minimize falses so they usually suppress alerts until the signal has been detected for a certain length of time.

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Originally Posted by RDSti

he is a taxes police officer

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Pun intended?

I can do the same (RD and Radar in same vehicle) with an older K band Kustom HAWK and I get the same results. If I skew either the detector or radar antenna to the side slightly, the detector will go nuts and will usually display both K and Ka band due to the overload.

If you separate them by about 5-10 feet, then the V1 alerts as it should every time.

I bet that LEO is lurking around here too. Of all RD's why did he picked the V1? He may have some knowledge about the fact that the V1 does well with I/O.

Wondered if that would make any difference using the 1.8 version in his test.

I've done the same test many times, and Happya$$ is correct. The V1 is sometimes overwhelmed when the gun is in the same car. The same phenomenon almost never happens when the radar is removed from the car. The V1 has the quickest reaction time of any RD I have tested, and out-triggering it in a real world test is not common, wheras the 9500 Escorts will be out-triggered more times than not because of their filtering.

Meh, this is funny........he's using a V1.7 and puts it on the dash........:lol:

Oh my my............

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Originally Posted by swarga

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Originally Posted by RDSti

he is a taxes police officer

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Pun intended?

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think he meant TEXAS

"this just comes to show yall that instant-on can be your worst nightmare."
So true.

More trouble than it's worth for him. He should be visually estimating everyone anyways and only turn his radar on when he knows that he's got someone. Then what does it matter if the person with a V1 slams on break you just owned him with I/O and he knows it.

Thank god that leo has a southern accent cause if I was an escort user, I'd be $hitting in my pants since an Escort might filter out any alert with that quick triggering.

He's triggering so fast is that recommended by Stalker?

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More trouble than it's worth for him.

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I agree that it's not particularly worth it to him, as he could run nothing but C/O and still write tickets all day long. But I don't see how it's any "trouble" for him. Pressing a button is no trouble or effort, no matter how fast or slow you do it.

He does it for the same reason that many of us run countermeasures in the first place. He's obviously into the game. I can respect that.

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He's triggering so fast is that recommended by Stalker?

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No. Does not even apply to NHTSA standard guidelines. MPH who invented POP does not even recommend using it to issue citations.

But it's not POP. Only MPH uses POP.

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But it's not POP. Only MPH uses POP.

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The guy making the videos keeps referring to it as POP, though, which is annoying.

It is very similar to POP their both very short the main difference is he has to actually pull and let go very quick instead of a click.

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But it's not POP. Only MPH uses POP.

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That's just stalker's version. Maybe 67ms and up burst manually done. :D

OK. So if I'm driving on the interstate with my V1 mounted on the W/S and a LEO sitting in my back seat targets me with his Radar Gun, my V1 may not alert.

That's good to know.....................:lol:

Guys, GHz waves are highly directional, what the detector is actually picking up are the returning waves, not the waves coming out of the radar's horn. As someone pointed out the VI is sweeping through all the frequency ranges and when it reads something it does not alert right off it sit at the frequency for a period of time to make sure it was a true signal.

He just proving why you need a rabbit..

The question is how does the Stalkers determine if the car is in near or far lane. At this point since the guy has no idea what is POP I am doubting his comment about the radar unit being able determine which lane the car returning the signal is in.

i was gonna say that video didnt look right...u no mike v has tested that v1 against that...and so if i was 100 feet away in my car id pick it up everytime? and btw the pyro74 guy is a dbag

Who is this idiot pyro74boy...Craig Peterson is that you hiding on YouTube instead of a mountain spouting BS?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqiT0apg9_Y]YouTube - Stalker Radar VS Valentine 1 Radar Detector ---- video 1[/ame]

"Escort is better vs the V1 and they have more patents vs ANY OTHER COMPANY including the V1."

"I dont have to go to that biased website I know what GOL is all about and they are not even true experts when it comes to testing radar they buy out dated radar and radar guns. TheTrueLock feature works great and what GOL does not tell you is that when they tested the 9500 they turned off K band all togather so of course it did not detect k band radar when it detected it.

The real industry leader is Escort as they own more detector patents vs ANY OTHER company including the Valentine One."

"Escort 9500CI and 9500IX are both better vs the Valentine One."


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O694oEk7q1Y]YouTube - Stalker Radar VS Valentine 1 Radar Detector ---- video 2[/ame]


"Try testing the Escort 9500ix you will have better results trust me the V1 is all hype.

The Escort would have done better on instant on."

"I dont have to go to that biased website I know what GOL is all about and they are not even true experts when it comes to testing radar they buy outdated radar and radar guns. TheTrueLock feature works great and what GOL does not tell you is that when they tested the 9500 they turned off K band all togather so of course it did not detect k band radar when it detected it.

The real industry leader is Escort as they own more detector patents vs ANY OTHER company including the Valentine One."

"The 9500ix and 9500ci are both Far superior to the over rated and false happy V1 as for GOL outdated radar equipment does not count as a good way to test radar detectors.

Patents is what is all about and like I said before Escort has more of them the all the others put togather.

Escort is the real leader and not V1. SML is the ONLY detector test I trust because unlike GOL they are unbiased and are real experts at testing radar and radar detectors."

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OK. So if I'm driving on the interstate with my V1 mounted on the W/S and a LEO sitting in my back seat targets me with his Radar Gun, my V1 may not alert.

That's good to know.....................:lol:

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Originally Posted by hockey005

and btw the pyro74 guy is a dbag

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Give all his comments "Thumb Down" so they disappear!!!;)

he used valentine one because i Requested that he make a video with the valentine one please people don't put him down or give him the thumps down i believe we should thank him for making the videos he's not against radar detectors as far as i know. not only that all you here all over these and many other forums is things like. v1 is the king,v1 is the best, get a v1, v1 has the best range, blah blah blah so why not Test with the best if most people say it is.

I Would love to here a thank you for the police officer who took time out to share something with us some videos on his radar some of us may or may not of learns something but if no one puts the information out there for people to find how are we ment to find it learn it. I Believe Knowledge Is Power and the more of it the better

I don't think anyone has anything against him, we just question whether the V1 would have caught the I/O shots had it been in another vehicle about a 1/2 mile away.

I'm betting it would.

Anyone out there with an Escort 9500i or ix try quick triggering with a radar gun. I guarantee you the Escort will not alert nearly as many times as the V1 did. I have tried this myself.

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Anyone out there with an Escort 9500i or ix try quick triggering with a radar gun. I guarantee you the Escort will not alert nearly as many times as the V1 did. I have tried this myself.

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I have with my 9500ix and I didn't see the problem. But im not a fast trigger ether. :D

When I say quick trigger, I mean use a handheld radar unit and literally just pull the trigger and release. Almost like clicking the mouse on a computer. You will get a speed almost every time. You can clock car after car and the Escort won't go off. On the V1, it may not go off every time, but on the V1 it will go off more often than the Escort.

This has nothing to do with detection, though. It has more to do with filtering. Escort doesn't want their units to be as chatty, so it waits for the signal to be present for a longer period of time before alerting. The V1s threshold is much lower.

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Anyone out there with an Escort 9500i or ix try quick triggering with a radar gun. I guarantee you the Escort will not alert nearly as many times as the V1 did. I have tried this myself.

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I don't care what detector you put in the place of the V1. The results would have largely been the same.

It has nothing to do with the detector being used, it is a matter of physics.

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"Escort is better vs the V1 and they have more patents vs ANY OTHER COMPANY including the V1."

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By that logic, Cobra must be the best of all because they have more bands than ANY OTHER COMPANY including Escort! :lol:

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"Escort is better vs the V1 and they have more patents vs ANY OTHER COMPANY including the V1."

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By that logic, Cobra must be the best of all because they have more bands than ANY OTHER COMPANY including Escort! :lol:

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And most of Escorts patents Mike V did. ;)

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"Escort is better vs the V1 and they have more patents vs ANY OTHER COMPANY including the V1."

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By that logic, Cobra must be the best of all because they have more bands than ANY OTHER COMPANY including Escort! :lol:

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And most of Escorts patents Mike V did. ;)

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Like happya$$ said, he overloaded the horn of the V1.:(