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new zealand and the new k band cameras
well finally found a new k camera to test the returned/tested& checked sti.
Pi ss poor was on top of it when it went off,and sadly the v1 was no better.
Waste of time having k switched on for all the falses.
Must say that the v1 in A mode still has less falses than the sti:(
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its true they are skewing us rd users with these new cameras the ka ones were easy to detect the only hope is use a plate cover that covers your license pate completely and is not see though. don't think photo blocker works on them how ever i haven't tryed dont no if its worth it
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philnz
well finally found a new k camera to test the returned/tested& checked sti.
Pi ss poor was on top of it when it went off,and sadly the v1 was no better.
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My sentiments exactly. Just keep your eyes peeled. We should note down the areas where they are parked.
1. Just north of the Harbour Bride after Onewa Road on-ramp.
2. Southern motorway in the bushes about 1km away from Papakura off-ramp.
On a side note - they are using laser a lot more now too. I have had 3 hits in the last couple of weeks.
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have you got a laser jammer? i got hit 6 times today by them stalker radars i think its a clamp down
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Yep i noticed that they are using alot more laser too.And also they dont seem to keep the stalker ka 34.7 on constant any more,only some true police cars do but not the traffic cars
most mornings they sit on the mway going west(laser) I see them as Im going east towards the city.
have not seen any ka cameras since the new k came in,maybe the moved them south
Camera I came across was about 1 km past the manurewa onramp heading to papakura
COME ON RD MAKERS FIND A SOLUTION TO LOW OUTPUT 24.100 K BAND
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have an older 04 m20 extreme on the bike but most miles done in work car during the day
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yep they use ka 34.7 using instant on most of the time now its making radar detectors all most useless. i seen a cop on the side of the road in the dark it was a marked 2009 holden commodore i was like oh here we go instant on i slowed down age's ago then my escort 8500 x50 goes off Ka ban 34.739 i have it like that so i know what are the false ka alerts and what ones aren't false like peoples cheap ass radar detectors, im there are out there trying to get us hard this time of year
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lucky i haven't came across any k ban speed camera vans around my ways not sure if my will even pick them up if v1 has a hard time then mine will have an even harder time.
the best cop detector ever invented your eyes
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ka34.739
the best cop detector ever invented your eyes
Unless it's dark traveling to work and back like at this time of year. Sti saved my arse from a K band Gatso happy snap in the dark two nights ago.
You guys must have really low power K band cameras.
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Carrots
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ka34.739
the best cop detector ever invented your eyes
Unless it's dark traveling to work and back like at this time of year. Sti saved my arse from a K band Gatso happy snap in the dark two nights ago.
You guys must have really low power K band cameras.
oh yes they came from the USA its very hard to pick them up so im told
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redflex K band
I believe they come from australia...but yes seem to be very low powered:mad:
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philnz
redflex K band
I believe they come from australia...but yes seem to be very low powered:mad:
i stand corrected oh well cant be right all the time:)
dam low powered k ban radar
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was not correcting/hacking on you. I thought if some one new what cameras they were there may be an answer.the contract went to the aussie branch of redflex but I bet its from the U>S.A:)
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another k band camera today and sti was on cnx..did not even go off
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The k band cameras have come north to Whangarei now.
Went past 1 the other day in a Purple van and the V1 remained silent, Went past another today in a white van and the V1 went off only as I was right on top of the camera.
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The k band cameras have come north to Whangarei now.
Went past 1 the other day in a Purple van and the V1 remained silent, Went past another today in a white van and the V1 went off only as I was right on top of the camera.
I'd guess you'd need to very close if it's low powered wouldn't you think so? You'd have to be blind not to see it in plain sight I guess.
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ICQ109207333
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grobyc
The k band cameras have come north to Whangarei now.
Went past 1 the other day in a Purple van and the V1 remained silent, Went past another today in a white van and the V1 went off only as I was right on top of the camera.
I'd guess you'd need to very close if it's low powered wouldn't you think so? You'd have to be blind not to see it in plain sight I guess.
unless its night time im not sure that they work in the dark i would say they would. and if they put it around a blind corner
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Still no confirmed sightings down here in Chc. Not worried about them either. I reckon you should turn pop on, Keep the ka guard on. You will get more K band false alerts from other detectors (which doesn't happen when pop's off) they seem to come in fast strong so not prob to ID them as a true false. The Ka false hits seem to get j'd out which is good.
Turning pop on seems to give a little bit more sensitivity not a bad trade off IMO
With pop turn on I would be interested to see if any better detection for these 24.100 GHz camera's. Thinking K band pop is around 24.125 GHz could be wrong thou can't check as gotta go to work.
Pls don't get confused here turn pop on only for these cam's and see if it work's if not turn off, as TMK we have no pop radar in NZ to date. Also don't go Euro mode that's gonna be bad for your Ka detection in NZ
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You'd have to be blind not to see it in plain sight I guess.[/QUOTE]
I think I may have suffered at the hands of one of these a couple of days ago. The van drivers are hiding them around corners & behind bushes.
I was tailing an Audi RS4 and he went past it at around 125kph. I am hoping by the time I saw it I managed to get under 110kph. Oh well I guess I'll find out in the next couple of weeks. ::(
Anyone know how often the pictures get processed?
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I have been told its about 3 wks,touch wood have not been pinged as I sit on 110-120 when its safe and on the bike a " bit" more
:)
have had the v1 on euro mode and seem to be a bit better but camera was on other side of the mway so will post when I hit one head on
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thanks mate i look forward to reading your replay
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If you turn to euro mode you will miss 99% of New Zealand police radar.
DRIVER INFORMATION NOTICE JANUARY 2009 - NEW POLICE MOBILE RADAR SPEED CAMERAS
Redflex Traffic Systems of Australia won the New Zealand contract to upgrade the old film cameras with the latest in digital speed camera technology.
These new radar units started appearing on our roads in January 2009.
Unlike the speed cameras that we have been used to (which operated on the Ka band frequency) these new cameras operate on a low frequency K Band signal around the 24.085GHz range (normally K band radar is 24.150GHz).
Because of this “off” frequency point and a very low power output, detection is difficult for many radar units. Those without pulse detection systems are unlikely to give any warning. Those with K POP detection will give some warning range that is variable depending on what side of the road the Camera Van is parked on.
Testing indicates range can be 80-150m.
Since NZ had not used this frequency for over five years most detectors have had K band deactivated.
Proposed action:
Activate K band on your detector to detect the new cameras. If quipped also activate POP mode.
Activation of the frequency will mean false alarms being detected from the likes of Petrol Station and shopping mall doors.
The benefit in reactivating K Band is that your unit will detect the Safety Warning System transmitters being installed in New Zealand and roadside speed warning signs that are often placed close to road works.
If your detector has GPS, re-read the manual and start using this useful feature to cancel out known false alarms. If your upgrading these GPS enabled units are fast becoming a must have feature.
The NEW Toyota and Mitsubishi vans of any colour are also more difficult to identify, so watch your speed and drive safe!
By TOM FITZSIMONS - The Dominion Post | Saturday, 06 December 2008
Motorists face a blitz from 43 new speed cameras - with the first due to be introduced in time for Christmas holiday traffic.
Police confirmed the cameras and conceded that more tickets would be issued. They would also be digital, meaning tickets were issued more quickly.
Police will pay almost $4 million for the cameras, one of which was being tested in Wellington's Ngauranga Gorge yesterday.
They will replace 31 mobile cameras now in use - which catch a motorist every 10 minutes on average.
The cameras, either at fixed locations or mobile ones housed in a parked van, have been used to issue more than 4.4 million tickets in the past decade, netting at least $350 million.
The new cameras are expected to be introduced between the end of the year and March.
Superintendent Paula Rose, the national road policing manager, said speed cameras had been an essential tool in moving on from the "killing fields" on the roads a generation ago. "Today we've got faster cars, we've got young people accessing fast cars ... so what a success rate."
The decision to expand the speed camera programme was part of an attempt to lower the road toll to less than 300 by 2010.
"Initially we do expect there will be an increase in tickets ... [but] any increase depends on what drivers choose to do."
Most people respected the speed limit in camera areas, Ms Rose said.
Automobile Association spokesman Simon Lambourne believed motorists supported speed cameras and the organisation would back having more.
Police Association president Greg O'Connor said officers would support an initiative to reduce the road toll. They preferred speed-camera use to having frontline staff issue tickets. "It's a good idea because obviously the relationship between police and the public is negatively impacted by the heavy ticketing campaign."
The new digital cameras are expected to process tickets about a day faster than existing ones, which take photos on film.
Police headquarters will not divulge the cost of the cameras and says the contract, provisionally awarded to Australian firm Redflex, is still being decided.
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i don't think we can win unless the manufacturers make a better rd that can detect this low powered K ban radar at a longer distance :(
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ka34.739
i don't think we can win unless the manufacturers make a better rd that can detect this low powered K ban radar at a longer distance :(
Maybe a RD designed to detect that camera would help. Other than that My V1 is a better RD:D
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old Stat's eh wounder what they pan out to today???????????
Speeding crackdown -
Officer-issued speeding tickets for drivers 11-15km/h over limit.
1999 - 2312
2000- 3785
2001 - 30,836
2002 - 76,784
2003 - 139,567
2004 - 161,919
BS to that
New Zealand police.
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Hi GHZ1
Thanks for your reply on the private mes
still cant find your old post (it was very good with all the info required)
You say that 99% of nz radar will be missed with euro on does that include the mobile stalker or just the ka cameras
cheers
phil
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From what I understand the stalker use 34.7 GHz the other fav is the talon that's users 35.5 GHz. Turning the V1 to euro mode will cut the scan of the V1 to no higher than 34.4 GHz so therefore the V1 will not even be looking for the stalker or the Talon which in turn would mean you are brown bread. The Ka cameras that they have down here seem to run at 34.6 GHz so you will miss them as well.
Now the reason why VR have included a euro mode to the V1 is that in Europe the majority of speed enforcement use the frequency below 34.4 GHz (Ka range 33.5 GHz to 37 GHz or so) This is much harder for your detector to detect. As in the pasted post above(from another site) when It comes to K band 24.150 GHz this is where police radar have sat for years. Radar detector makers have been able to filter out false alerts eg 24.100 GHz is a common door opener so they write code to filter it out (to a point)even less sensitivity at that freq. Now that this new K band camera is using a very low power 24.100 GHz we have a problem VR know this they know it's beening used in euro mostly so euro mode.
Just to get back to euro K band if you do set it up your 24.100 GHz detection should be a bit hotter but at the expense of main threat (demerit points) stalkers etc. So what I've have done is set my K band mutes up turn pop on and it's as good as it can get at the mo.
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/valentine-one/9972-k-band-automute-settings-walkthrough-newbies.html
Even though the euro mode section of the forum tells the readers it covers all the Ka band photo radar It's wrong it's does not cover 34.6 GHz which is the Ka camera they use in NZ. Thou these cameras are being replaced with the new k band as we know.
I came across one of these K band cam's the other day while off to Mt Hutt for a days skiing and yes not much warning but as the guy in the van left his inside light on being 6 am and dark I could see him a mile out. My .863 did very well and did alert to full when on top of the camera. It's not the end of the world it's still radar and VR will come through for us. That's why the upgrades are so important and that another reason why I'm New Zealand's biggest Zombie. It's just heaps of fun eh!!
Really at the mo the V1 is the number detector for this Country, Oh and by the way Arizona state Gov. have order a whole bunch of the very same radar camera's from Aus. Pretty sure Jim and Radar Roy are gonna have to get there teeth into it as well.
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Thanks so much
will turn off the euro and pop on will see how it goes this weekend on my way north
yep its all fun
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Well, if it were me living where you guys are living, I'd just rock a V1 and use a plate flipper. Even if you only get a slight warning, just hit the button to flip the plate, and when your out of range, flip it back up. Just a thought.
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Red Turbo Tegg
Well, if it were me living where you guys are living, I'd just rock a V1 and use a plate flipper. Even if you only get a slight warning, just hit the button to flip the plate, and when your out of range, flip it back up. Just a thought.
I could work with that:D