I was trying to figure out if you guys used a 2 or 4 head Laser Mask system in that test.
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I was trying to figure out if you guys used a 2 or 4 head Laser Mask system in that test.
Every jammer tested was done so using only 2 sensors.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
I don't think the cars battery could support the number we would have needed for JTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
For the cost of a Blinder M25 you could purchase a Laser Mask 4 head.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestatonI don't think the cars battery could support the number we would have needed for JTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
For the cost of the LI you could get a Laser Mask 6head.
Personally I am willing to bet if the test was done to factor in costs the Laser Mask 4 head would have done a decent job.
This test using 2 heads for all jammers is one of the most biased GOL laser jammer test I have seen:cool:
That was my line of thinking, if two heads did almost as good as a Blinder and better than a Zr4 then the 4 head system seems like it would be a good value. I don't really know much about Laser Mask they do seem to be really inexpensive, I wonder if they have reliability issues. There is just not alot of info out there on them, which is concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrobFor the cost of a Blinder M25 you could purchase a Laser Mask 4 head.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestatonI don't think the cars battery could support the number we would have needed for JTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
For the cost of the LI you could get a Laser Mask 6head.
Personally I am willing to bet if the test was done to factor in costs the Laser Mask 4 head would have done a decent job.
This test using 2 heads for all jammers is one of the most biased GOL laser jammer test I have seen:cool:
I don't remember but I think it was based on wanting to keep the sensors in the same place, thus, trying to further eliminate another variable in placement. With the Blinder it wouldn't have mattered since only certain censors fire at certain times, I don't recall the specifics about the laser mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrobFor the cost of a Blinder M25 you could purchase a Laser Mask 4 head.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestatonI don't think the cars battery could support the number we would have needed for JTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
For the cost of the LI you could get a Laser Mask 6head.
Personally I am willing to bet if the test was done to factor in costs the Laser Mask 4 head would have done a decent job.
This test using 2 heads for all jammers is one of the most biased GOL laser jammer test I have seen:cool:
Also you have to remember for a real world install, 4 head systems for most vehicles are not practical based on the size. Sure you can do it like the tard blinder salesman who mounted them on the fender of the Mercedes right in front of the headlight. Yeah that can be done, but it's not practical.
Another factor was the Escort ZR4. At the time it was only offered as a 2 head system. If we had only used two zr4 heads, then you couldn't compare it's led performance to the other led models.
By keeping the limit to 2 heads, you are showing the units true power to cost, thus IMO the less heads to work with, the greater chance for success in the real world.
The next consideration was cost.
All in all I think it was our best test to date, and I stand by the results.
I thought the ZR4 has always been a three head system two for the front one in the back just like the ZR3 was.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestatonI don't remember but I think it was based on wanting to keep the sensors in the same place, thus, trying to further eliminate another variable in placement. With the Blinder it wouldn't have mattered since only certain censors fire at certain times, I don't recall the specifics about the laser mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrobFor the cost of a Blinder M25 you could purchase a Laser Mask 4 head.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestatonI don't think the cars battery could support the number we would have needed for JTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky2
For the cost of the LI you could get a Laser Mask 6head.
Personally I am willing to bet if the test was done to factor in costs the Laser Mask 4 head would have done a decent job.
This test using 2 heads for all jammers is one of the most biased GOL laser jammer test I have seen:cool:
Also you have to remember for a real world install, 4 head systems for most vehicles are not practical based on the size. Sure you can do it like the tard blinder salesman who mounted them on the fender of the Mercedes right in front of the headlight. Yeah that can be done, but it's not practical.
Another factor was the Escort ZR4. At the time it was only offered as a 2 head system. If we had only used two zr4 heads, then you couldn't compare it's led performance to the other led models.
By keeping the limit to 2 heads, you are showing the units true power to cost, thus IMO the less heads to work with, the greater chance for success in the real world.
The next consideration was cost.
All in all I think it was our best test to date, and I stand by the results.
I think he just means the two that are supposed to be used for the front. If the test were testing four heads up front... then what would be the option with the ZR4?
*edit. smart ass comment removed.
Thanks I get it now I am a little slow today. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TQUILL
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Originally Posted by thestaton
Mike!! You're back!!! :D
J/
Yes we wanted to compare apples to apples. I liked this because one is able to determine the effectiveness of each head. I am not sure how much more effective additional heads would have been. I remember on my Civic it did not matter how many heads I would add. Results were similar. They only got better when I added Veil.
Apples to apples would have been 2 LED heads = 1 diode head. That theory had been proven the real reason you limited it to 2 heads is some diode jammers were giving 3 heads for the same price you would just get two from from.Quote:
Originally Posted by happya$$
I agree 2 heads for diode jammers but for the most part LED jammers need 4 heads to compare to 2 diode heads.
That would be more of a dollar-to-dollar comparison than an apples-to-apples comparison. But I do agree that it's something that should be compared. Especially on larger vehicles where 4 Blinder heads may well outperform 2 LI heads.
As I stated earlier 4 Blinder heads at the time wouldn't have mattered due to the fact that they selectively fire. Since we concentrate on the headlight & license plate, and don't pan around crazy, the other heads would have never turned on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker
When you think of stock automobiles I can't think of anything that is mass produced that could be worse than what we have tested with in the past.
IMO the Silver Jeep was the toughest SOB we have tested with, and gas hungry like a mofo. I bet we dropped over 250 bucks in gas on that slow v6.
I can't honestly imagine a scenario where a 4 head blinder could outperform a dual head LI across the board.
LED jammers where cool about 6 years ago, but as far as I'm concerned they are a thing of the past.